Character Discussion - C.C

[pilipok]

lol wats wif all the arguments tt has no relation to this thread..

[Lugia_Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by Var

I was talking about people who do not like CluClu. Which does not mean just Kalulu fans, and can include people from the general audience.

Well, in my country's web forum, most people like C.C. and Lelouch x C.C.

And in Japan, most people love C.C.

I don't really know about this forum though.

[KrimzonStriker]

I think the majority do too here anyway. According to the polls at least

[Lugia_Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

I think the majority do too here anyway. According to the polls at least

Well, I said I don't really know because C.C's fans are mostly hiding and depressing, while Kallen's fans are out here saying whatever they think about C.C.

And that made a lot of C.C.'s fans lost hope.

But not me though. I will always have hope until the last second of Code Geass.

I just don't really say anything about Kallen, because I know how it feel like when other people talk bad about C.C. or Lelouch x C.C.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Lugia_Tsuyu

Well, I said I don't really know because C.C's fans are mostly hiding and depressing, while Kallen's fans are out here saying whatever they think about C.C.

And that made a lot of C.C.'s fans lost hope.

But not me though. I will always have hope until the last second of Code Geass.

I just don't really say anything about Kallen, because I know how it feel like when other people talk bad about C.C. or Lelouch x C.C.

So can we assume.

1) C.C fans have extremely thin skins.

2) And no one should point out any negative character traits because it makes C.C fans sad.

Funny there are at least two well know trolls who attack Kalulu frequently. They do not post reasonable arguments. Do not post valid assumptions or speculations. They are not trying to counter points of other members.

They just troll.

Yet what I see mostly is the big bad wolves aka the Kallen fan have made things so oppressive around here

[Vito]

Originally Posted by yvj

So can we assume.

1) C.C fans have extremely thin skins.

2) And no one should point out any negative character traits because it makes C.C fans sad.

Funny there are at least two well know trolls who attack Kalulu frequently. They do not post reasonable arguments. Do not post valid assumptions or speculations. They are not trying to counter points of other members.

They just troll.

Yet what I see mostly is the big bad wolves aka the Kallen fan have made things so oppressive around here

Stop being an ass in the C.C. thread, you're making the rest of us look bad.

[Narona]

Originally Posted by yvj

So can we assume.

1) C.C fans have extremely thin skins.

2) And no one should point out any negative character traits because it makes C.C fans sad.

Funny there are at least two well know trolls who attack Kalulu frequently. They do not post reasonable arguments. Do not post valid assumptions or speculations. They are not trying to counter points of other members.

They just troll.

Yet what I see mostly is the big bad wolves aka the Kallen fan have made things so oppressive around here

You know if they want, the c.c. fans can also find some arguments to call kallen bitch for instance. Will it be good arguments in my eyes? No. Same when I see someone who insults c.c..

So I guess the sane c.c. fans are not as stupid as some other fans. Since it will only poke the hate.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Vito

Stop being an ass in the C.C. thread, you're making the rest of us look bad.

I'm sorry you're right I'll stop pointing out things.

Because everyone knows that's what makes one an ass pointing out things.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Narona

You know if they want, the c.c. fans can also find some arguments to call kallen bitch for instance. Will it be good arguments in my eyes? No. Same when I see someone who insults c.c..

So I guess the sane c.c. fans are not as stupid as some other fans. Since it will only poke the hate.

If you have a reasonable/logical argument to why you believe Kallen is a bitch. All the power to you.

As long as you have stuff to back it up. As long as you're not an obvious troll (you know who they are.) It's fine with me. Of course people will counter your points, that's what happens. This is a forum of discussion.


Just try not to get mad if I or any others have rebuttals to your claims.

This demonizing of an entire fanbase is getting ridiculous.

[Narona]

Originally Posted by yvj

If you have a reasonable/logical argument to why you believe Kallen is a bitch. All the power to you.

As long as you have stuff to back it up. Of course people will counter your points, that's what happens. This is a forum of discussion.

As long as you're not an obvious troll (you know who they are.) It's fine with me.

Just try not to get mad if I or any others have rebuttals to your claims.

This demonizing of an entire fanbase is getting ridiculous.

I will not say that. Even if I would want to criticize her (but I will not since I don't care about criticizing her) the choice of the words i would use is important. You can criticize someone with some words that will not make angry or hurt the person you're talking to. Because I don't only talk about a fictional character, I also talk to some real people here. And I'm concerned about what they feel.

That's what I think at least.

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Narona

I will not say that. Even if I would want to criticize her (but I will not since I don't care about criticizing her) the choice of the words i would use is important. You can criticize someone with some words that will not make angry or hurt the person you're talking to.

That's what I think at least.

See you may not feel it necessary to criticize. But we are on a forum. There are a lot of people who will feel the need to criticize if they see reasons to.

But there's an obvious difference between an antagonizing troll and someone who has points they are projecting.

As far as I know no one has been personally attacked. So arguments have been offered within the rules of the board. But apparently Kallen fans are creating a new form of Stalinism around here.

Causing the persecution of all

[Narona]

I added that line in my previous post:

Because I don't only talk about a fictional character, I also talk to some real people here. And I'm concerned about what they feel.

Because I know that the discussion will be nice if I don't make those people angry by using harsh words that could be seen as too harsh by some others.

Originally Posted by yvj

So arguments have been offered within the rules of the board.

Even Babaganush fits within the rules of the board. That's not only about the official rules, but about showing some respect towards the other members.

[whiter]

Originally Posted by Lugia_Tsuyu

Well, I said I don't really know because C.C's fans are mostly hiding and depressing, while Kallen's fans are out here saying whatever they think about C.C.

Well, C.C. is/have been living in solitude and sadness for most of her life.
As such, some people (not all) who have been lonely and experienced hars events (like me, in a sense atelast) can symphasize with her way better than ones with no real experience, feeling as if she's carrying their burder, and hoping for her happiness.
Solitude's best friends are anxiousness and poor self esteem. These factors prevent/restrict those fans from posting their opinions and speculations. It's not like all the C.C fans are like that, but that should descirble part of C.C's fandom, and provide you with a descent the reason for the differense.

Kallen as a charracter is way more happy, outrageous and normal. She's full of self esteem and is more regularm just like some(most) of the Kallen fans, or so I view it.

I would personally state that the quite high % of fans represent the traits of their favorite charracter more or less. But well, take it however you want

[Lugia_Tsuyu]

Originally Posted by yvj

So can we assume.

1) C.C fans have extremely thin skins.

2) And no one should point out any negative character traits because it makes C.C fans sad.

Funny there are at least two well know trolls who attack Kalulu frequently. They do not post reasonable arguments. Do not post valid assumptions or speculations. They are not trying to counter points of other members.

They just troll.

Yet what I see mostly is the big bad wolves aka the Kallen fan have made things so oppressive around here

I'm not saying you can't make any speculations or point out your opinions. But keep it as opinions, not facts.

And I see more arguments going on more then discussions. Why? Because people are saying things without caring about what other people would think. And I know that everybody has their freedom of speech, but we can try to keep something inside in order not to make other people feel too bad.

And I'm not saying this to Kallen's fans, but all of the characters' fans.

And this is also just my opinion. You can choose to listen and try to understand it. Or you can think this is wrong and keep arguing and being...., it's up to you all.

[Micante]

Originally Posted by whiter

Well, C.C. is/have been living in solitude and sadness for most of her life.
As such, some people (not all) who have been lonely and experienced hars events (like me, in a sense atelast) can symphasize with her way better than ones with no real experience, feeling as if she's carrying their burder, and hoping for her happiness.
Solitude's best friends are anxiousness and poor self esteem. These factors prevent/restrict those fans from posting their opinions and speculations. It's not like all the C.C fans are like that, but that should descirble part of C.C's fandom, and provide you with a descent the reason for the differense.

Kallen as a charracter is way more happy, outrageous and normal. She's full of self esteem and is more regularm just like some(most) of the Kallen fans, or so I view it.

I would personally state that the quite high % of fans represent the traits of their favorite charracter more or less. But well, take it however you want

Well, that only works in some cases. For example, you don't see me going around burning books, sealing myself in books, slaughtering vegetables and laughing evilly just because Zetta's one of my favorite characters. >.>

[Narona]

Originally Posted by Micante

Well, that only works in some cases. For example, you don't see me going around burning books, sealing myself in books, slaughtering vegetables and laughing evilly just because Zetta's one of my favorite characters. >.>

LIES! That's just beause you can't do all of that (like sealing yourself in something)

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Narona

Even Babaganush fit within the rules of the board. That's not only about the official rules, but about showing some respect towards the other members.

If you cannot see the difference between Babaganush and people who have points to bring forth. I don't know what to tell you.

I've seen Babaganush repeat the same sentence in three different threads on the same day. Using terrible English.

I have a question.

1) What percentage of people here who do not share your opinion use harsh language and/or have disrespected you personally. I know for sure some people have called C.C a bitch (BTW do you remember True Warrior he didn't go a week without calling Kallen a bitch)

[Micante]

Originally Posted by Narona

LIES! That's just beause you can't do all of that (like sealing yourself in something)

Well, I can burn books and stare vegetables down until they die. Although I'd probably owe the library a lot of money if I did that. I also don't usually have long internal monologues with myself whenever I meet someone new. >.<

I have internal monologues sometimes, but not the same kind as Zetta.

[whiter]

Originally Posted by Micante

Well, that only works in some cases. For example, you don't see me going around burning books, sealing myself in books, slaughtering vegetables and laughing evilly just because Zetta's one of my favorite characters. >.>

Those are not traits, they'r only some simple acts!
Eitherway I said more or less, and nothing is universal.

[Micante]

Originally Posted by whiter

Those are not traits, they'r only some simple acts!
Eitherway I said more or less, and nothing is universal.

Well, I don't have traits that would cause me to do those things. >_>

Yes, I know it wasn't universal. I just felt like proving myself to be in the minority for an ego boost.