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It could be just a coincidence but.... well I guess I just can't exclude now that we will have a twist like: "hideauze is people!"
What frightens me the most is the fact that the mouth is exactly where it's supposed to be if that's a mutated human... EDIT: Hmmm guys... this could seriously end up to be true This isn't the kind of mouth you would expect from a Cephalopod or any fish really. This is the mouth of a mammalian...
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2013-05-21, 09:23 | Link #105 |
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Wow. Those are impressive carnivore teeth. The images go by so quickly, I never noticed them in broadcast. But they don't really look like the teeth Ledo has been carving. Too pointy. I think if the ones he carved looked like those, we would have thought of carnivore teeth earlier. Something doesn't fit.
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2013-05-21, 09:29 | Link #106 |
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The people in Gargantia call them Whalesquids. Not Giant Squids. So they're clearly aware of the fact that they're not just Cephalopods. There seems to be documentation with regards to their nature and existence. It's not like everyone thinks they're just normal squids, and then get a huge surprise when they discover later that they have mammal properties. They've known all along. In fact, the "teeth" which Ledo collects and makes flutes out of, are definitely modeled after whale teeth.
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Example: whale sharks They are decidedly sharks (fish), and they have nothing mammal like. The main reasons they are associated to whales is because they are very big and they feed on plankton. And don't let me even get started on "seahorses" and "guinea pigs". Quote:
I don't think that they have a depth biological knowledge of what the whalesquids are, especially considering that they most likely never captured one of them to examine it. They most likely think it's just some kind of strange and dangerous squid. The teeth that Ledo collects are not something that the Gargantians are familiar with judging from Bevel and Amy reactions.
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2013-05-21, 14:21 | Link #108 | |
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They might just call them "whalesquid" since they identify them with being as big as a whale, not because they don't think of them as cephlopods. It's the same reason we call a sea star a "starfish" despite the fact that it's neither a star nor a fish. And someone already talked about the "whale shark" thing. These names usually came about before we really classified the animals, and I think this probably applies to Gargantia's referring to the rather mutated version of giant squid as "whalesquid". The "whale squid" are definitely not your regular giant squid, as it's been stated and shown that they now have predatory teeth rather than a beak, they now have multiple eyes rather than the standard two, and their fins have become elongated appendages. However, this points like I said, to a completely mutated (or genetically engineered?) form of squid.
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2013-05-21, 15:04 | Link #109 |
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I suppose that's true, but from a design perspective in the production, I think the fact that they decided to have the characters call them "Whalesquids" and also modeled their teeth after Whale teeth, it would indicate that the intention is for the audience to associate them as some sort of whale/squid hybrid. I totally agree that they're a mutation, but I just don't think that there's any implication that they're related to humans in any way.
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2013-05-21, 15:10 | Link #110 | |
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Actually you can see it almost all the time, it's just more obvious in this frame. I just can't see this being a coincidence. Definitely started some interesting theories in my head... |
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2013-05-21, 15:27 | Link #111 | |
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I don't know if I would call the teeth specifically "whale type" since there are other sea creatures with those type of teeth. Also, strangely Red doesn't call them "teeth" but "nail" or "claws", so they might use them not for eating, but for holding on to things.
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2013-05-21, 15:37 | Link #112 |
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The things ("nails") that Ledo is pulling out of the Machine Caliber and making flutes out of appear to be hooks from the squid/Hideauze's arms. (Actual colossal squid information here, see "Morphology," and "sheathed hooks" in this picture.)
The whalesquid's actual mouth area is somewhat more mammalian than cephalopod, but the actual cephalopod version would have looked like that from a bird or, well, human naughty bits. |
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Everyone seems resigned now to how Chamber estimates the message Spoiler for episode 8:
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2013-05-26, 22:35 | Link #115 |
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How can you "track" something that's 6 thousand light years away?
Moreover they don't need 6 thousands years to travel to Earth, since they can use wormholes to get there. Supposedly as soon as they get Ledo's message they should be able to get to earth in a few days or months. However unless Chamber lied, Ledo has been on Earth for only about 6 months. They would still need to wait 6000 years regardless.
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And Red is aware of the un-squidlike mouths since the snail and nautilus-like Hideauze in space have attacked him, also bearing mouths that would not be natural of their specific original species. It's obvious that even as this things originated from Earth, they have been quite mutated and are now much more predatory and powerful. I mean, since when does a snail need incisors like that?
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2013-05-26, 23:00 | Link #117 |
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Ledo never saw an octopus before, he doesn't know that squids aren't supposed to have those teeth. Even then he never thought that Hideauze are squids to begin with nor that they originated from Earth.
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Which is also interesting, that somehow all of these previous earth species now have a single shared genome and have become one species. I would really like them to explain the science on that!
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2013-05-27, 07:00 | Link #119 |
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Well I think everyone is expecting some kind of explanation about the Hideauze's origin and agenda, we've been teased a lot by them and we know almost nothing apart from some theories which may or may not be true.
I'd be really disappointed if they didn't give us answers by the end of the anime. Speculating a bit I think it's interesting to note that the Hideauze followed the "milky way" on their path, I guess here's probably a connection between them and those nanomachines that Chamber talked about.
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Could be a coincidence or a joke. But that looks too much like a butt and even the scapula lines are where they are supposed to be. Currently, I'm thinking along the lines that the people who left will get into some kind of trouble and it will Gargantia who will save them at the end. |
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