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Old 2018-09-21, 06:59   Link #121
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So main crux why she is "failure" is becuase she was willing sacrifice weakest and most annoying doll of AR team in simulation to get sh*t done long before story begun... That's not exactly sound arguments you know?

And in thread you linked there is like one person who think so compared to several who opose it with actually pretty good reasoning. Either way any commander who is willing sacrifice M4 (even if it's just simulation) is awesome in my book. I did same and didn't even had to, so she at least as good as me or better.

Thank you for spoilers it was helpful.
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Old 2018-09-21, 08:58   Link #122
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So main crux why she is "failure" is becuase she was willing sacrifice weakest and most annoying doll of AR team in simulation to get sh*t done long before story begun... That's not exactly sound arguments you know?
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And in thread you linked there is like one person who think so compared to several who opose it with actually pretty good reasoning. Either way any commander who is willing sacrifice M4 (even if it's just simulation) is awesome in my book. I did same and didn't even had to, so she at least as good as me or better.
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Look, despite how you feel about M4, she is a practically the central figure to the main storyline. Even if you retire her, she will still appear in story mode regularly and repeatedly - unless it's Night Battle since those are more side story.

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Old 2018-09-21, 09:51   Link #123
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Still goal of that simulation apparently wasn't protect M4, so sacrificing her was valid tactic. It showed bit lack of empathy which got critised, but she eventualy learned that too. At this point of story she wouldn't just easily sacrifice comrades (unlike UMP45, who is far from bad commander in her own righ)

In other hand when M4 needed to be rescued she did excelent job too (unfortunately). Especially she did it despite not having programed eternal love for her like others.
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Old 2018-09-21, 09:59   Link #124
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Still goal of that simulation apparently wasn't protect M4, so sacrificing her was valid tactic. It showed bit lack of empathy which got critised, but she eventualy learned that too. At this point of story she wouldn't just easily sacrifice comrades (unlike UMP45, who is far from bad commander in her own righ)
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In other hand when M4 needed to be rescued she did excelent job too (unfortunately). Especially she did it despite not having programed eternal love for her like others.
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Look, we get that you dislike M4 for whatever reasons, but she's THE central figure of the game. If you keep complaining every time she pops up, or get in some subtle jabs at her, it's going to get old real fast. Keep it toned down.
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Old 2018-09-21, 10:11   Link #125
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As you said M4 is central character of game so it's inevitable to mention her in conversation. I can't really avoid that, even if I want.

As for RO, not having same directive as rest of team doesn't make her worse commader. There is reason why Lab16 didn't programmed her to kiss M4 ass and I would guess it's for sake of being able doing unbiased decision on battlefield. Which she does.

Also there is no implication commander did all heavy lifting. Apparently they cooked plan together so it shoud be fifty-fifty contribution or something close to it.
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Old 2018-09-21, 10:18   Link #126
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*sigh* Let's just agree to disagree. It's getting tiresome.

Anywho, I heard that CT is finishing soon. Wonder how big the next event is since clusterfuck is not enough to describe what's currently going on.
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*sigh* Let's just agree to disagree. It's getting tiresome.

Anywho, I heard that CT is finishing soon. Wonder how big the next event is since clusterfuck is not enough to describe what's currently going on.
What do you expect from someone who dismantled M4?
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Old Yesterday, 11:30   Link #128
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What is correlation between enjoying game and having good/bad judgement?

Also I can't say I heard your argument why RO is failure of commander despite saving everyone ass handily.
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