(L+CR) Kyoukai no Kanata (Beyond the Boundary)

[Mephis]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

OK, time to make fun of this:

Oh you....

[Reincarnated]

Originally Posted by RobotCat

KyoAn interview regarding KnK and its adaptation:

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-19379.html



So basically, they had only volume 1 and some rough drafts of volume 2 to go on, which means the anime is pretty much going to be quite different from the LN and the director made change accordingly. So it really comes down to the writing level of the director considering how much new material is going to be in the anime.

is that so? Why did they make the anime then? Does the LN really sell that well?
I just hope they don't ruin the darkness of the series or else I might flip my table for liking Kyoukai no Kanata.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by RobotCat

KyoAn interview regarding KnK and its adaptation:

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-19379.html



So basically, they had only volume 1 and some rough drafts of volume 2 to go on, which means the anime is pretty much going to be quite different from the LN and the director made change accordingly. So it really comes down to the writing level of the director considering how much new material is going to be in the anime.

I'll be honest... This makes me want to rage so, so hard. People who know me well will probably be able to figure out why.

In any event, I'm inclined to agree with Reincarnated.

[Marcus H.]

Does the LN really sell that well?

I don't think so, or the sales of ONE VOLUME is certainly not enough to judge if it sells.
IIRC, KnK is one of the light novel series which was given an Honorable Mention in KyoAni's Amateur Light Novel Awards or something.

[Anime Online]

If one volume is insufficient to tell how well received the LN is, then the director must have seen its potential when he decided to make an anime adaptation.

I'd like to judge the anime on its own merit, and not how closely it follows the source material. Sometimes people just give too much credit to the source material. Bastard! and Tenjo Tenge are two examples of manga that had promising starts, but the writers lost their way somewhere and just wrote whatever they fancy.

I get annoyed at anime that hide behind "We are just following the source material" and make non-endings. Examples would be Skip Beat, Deadman Wonderland and Claymore. There's neither satisfaction nor resolution at the end, only bottled frustration.

Hence, I hope the people making Kyoukai no Kanata is able to give the anime a proper middle and end. It does have quite an interesting start. If there is no official end, then make one. Don't give me that "We dunno how we should end this and we are afraid of offending LN/novel readers, so we'll just say lalala and end it"

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Reincarnated

is that so? Why did they make the anime then? Does the LN really sell that well?

Let me just say briefly that anime also exist (or sometimes even primarily exist) to promote the original source material. So it's quite possible they created this anime to help promote the novel and their novel brand, while also hoping to make a decent anime that can stand on its own right. Whether people buy the novels or the anime, in the end it benefits the publisher, which is Kyoto Animation in both cases. (Even if people end up not buying the anime and buying the novels instead, Kyoto Animation still wins!) So it's rather different than your usual adaptation case.

In any event, this topic has been previously discussed in great detail in the Kyoto Animation Studio Discussion Thread, so I recommend checking that out for more information.

[Dextro]

Right now I'm just watching this for Chihara Minori's excelent performance as Mitsuki. Everytime she comes on screen to say something I completely melt away

As for the action scenes they still lack punch but I felt that this third episode was at least slightly better. The direction needs a lot of improvement though as has been so thoroughly pointed out on these last few pages (seriously guys, you write too fast ). In particular the scene where our MC goes home to cook diner only to almost immediately show up next to Mirai screams shady writing all over the place and should have been a red flag on the cutting room (unless KyoAni is rushing episodes out at broadcast time which I seriously doubt).

Also, I have to say that the character designs are giving me quite a bit of cognitive disonance when watching the show. I tend to enjoy KyoAni designs even when most people seem to decry them as moeblobs but here they only serve to make the episodes look "wrong" to me. It's no Sora no Woto though.

[darkchibi07]

Screencaps for episode 4 are out:

http://anime-kyokai.com/story/04/

Originally Posted by whitecloud

Episode 4: "Bitter Orange"
Script: Jukki Hanada
Director/Storyboards: Yasuhiro Takemoto
Animation Director: Chiyoko Ueno

Spoiler for Summary:

Mirai is in critical condition as Sakura presses her power against Mirai. Akihito runs towards the two and scolds Mirai for doing reckless activities. He carries her to get both of them out of this predicament, but Sakura chases after them.
At that time the "Hollow Shadow" attacks them both. Sakura also appears. While she's confronted with her past, Mirai attempts to kill the "Hollow Shadow." During the fight, Akihito sees the power her blood has.
"Do you...... see me as a normal person?"
Akihito gives a soft reply to her question. After that, his body becomes possessed by the "Hollow Shadow."
Akihito, in anguish, tries to both stab himself as well as runs towards Mirai while yelling.
Mirai, puzzled, is given guidance from Akihito. While crying, she makes up her mind what to do.
With all her strength, she swings her blood sword down towards Akihito...

That's some rather trippy staircase there!

[MisaoFan]

Spoiler for Episode 4:

The story takes a major peak towards the story and this is where action ensues and the fact that Akihito is taken control by a Hollow Shadow until Mirai go to the rescue and save him. There's a realization of love between each other and how much they pursue it even though it isn't the end. I always have a fondle towards parallel worlds in a seemingly realistic setting and this show isn't an exception to the rule. It's pretty cute in terms of character relationships and I would like to see Mirai getting a little more open and determined about love as well.

[sikvod00]

Spoiler for Episode 4:

Generally speaking, youmu aren't portrayed in the most positive light. Aside from the shopkeeper woman and her moe daughter, they all appear to be hostiles. Then there's the fact that it's only Akihito's youmu side which goes out of control and causes havoc, not the human side. Are we supposed to view them like we do humans, where they have the potential to be good, bad, and everything in between? If so, they're doing a poor job so far. I just see them as mindless enemies minus a few exceptions. Please correct me if there are more "good" youmu that I haven't mentioned. I forget if Akihito's mom is human or youmu.

Also, I really have to say this: the voice acting in this show is unimpressive, especially from Akihito. The emotional, tense scenes he had in this episode really demonstrated that. His lines fell completely flat for me. Mitsuki would be another one, which is a shame since she's voiced by Minori Chihara. I just feel that she's trying to hard to play the cool, sadistic type.

[MartianMage]

Just finished watching episode 4. First half was kinda trippy with the labyrinth thing but overall the whole sequence still lacked tension. Second half was kinda surprising. Akihito looks like he's stronger than the hollow shadow.

Overall some pretty interesting reveals but IMHO the execution was lacking this episode.

[rulfo]

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My reaction to this episode

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Spoiler for ep 4:

Pretty much the problems I found were in reverse. The start was pretty weird but the end was pretty nice. Cliched as things were it actually gave Aki a real reason to help Mirai.

It wasn't just simply out of plain sympathy but rather they were really on the same boat.

Some scenarios are still dodgy as usual but overall I'm very positive with this episode.

On a side note though, KENN still not fitting in like a peg in some of the serious tones of the episode. Risa Taneda did well though so I'm ok with that.

[ookamigirl]

Interesting episode.
Seems this one put Kuriyama into a tight spot.
The past came to haunt her in a most unusual way.
But seriously, the enemy this time was really difficult and challenging.
It was interesting to see Akihito's "other" side as well.
Great episode!

[Random Wanderer]

...Thief. That was Mirai's kill fair and square! You give that back!

Now, if Sakura's intro from last episode had been part of this episode and had included all the rest of this stuff from this episode, it would have been fine. We still need more info on her, but this is fine for an introductory episode. But there's no further need to belabor that point.

ANYway. Now these two both know they have issues that completely set them apart from people around them. Maybe they can get along better.

A rain of blood enough to kill the trees in a wide area? How is Mirai still alive? How much blood does this girl have? Her body must produce the stuff a thousand times faster than normal, or something.

I'm going to assume it wasn't just the cooldown hug thing that got Akihito's youmu side to chill, but also contact with Mirai's blood. It would feel just a little too cliche otherwise.

Whoa, Ai's a Nekomata? Didn't see that coming.

[Mephis]

Wow 10/10 episode for sure. Epic episode!

The fight against the hollow shadow (WTF why u steal Mirai's epic high price item?! D:<) was awesome then we got to see Akihito's true powers after he goes berserk. Total Red Alert level power he's got o___o;;

I wonder who that old guy was at the end and what they mean by they can stall the society with it...

Things are getting more interesting!

[fertygo]

What a eyefeast of episode. just amazing.

Too bad its still not enjoyable watch simply because awful dialogue and Mirai's existence as forced moe generator, smh..

[Jerseykid]

I always get excited when main characters go into dark berserk mode.

[Breimoon]

nice episode for sure, though i wonder what plans do they hold for MC. Whatever it is, it seems even more important then hollow shadow stone which should be worth really a lot since even 5 a lvl hunters couldnt last a minute.(unless rank s shows up later). And is that old geezer the mastermind??

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Jerseykid

I always get excited when main characters go into dark berserk mode.

That's so generic I can't get exited at all myself.

[MartianMage]

Forgot to talk about Sakura... so yeah she came in raging(well ok not really raging just trying to kill Mirai with a deadpan face) from the previous episode and she just ninja leaves like that. What's up with that?