(CR) Musaigen no Phantom World (Myriad Colors Phantom World)

[Nicaea]

Haruhiko should learn not to startle people so much. It happened last episode with Koito too

[Master_Yoma]

All about Kurumi this time but that bear world was as good as the rabbit world

[grecefar]

Much honey in this chapter for kurumi, it wans't that bad though if you like sweetness, like the part of kurumi making friends.

The bear was cool.

[blakstealth]

Albrecht is so cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute~!

[GMT]

In this episode of The World's Most Incompetent Ghostbusters:
- Recycled plot-lines!
- Child exploitation time!
- Don't do drugs, kids! No, seriously, this entire episode is what happens when you drop acid.

So we have another "personal problems cause characters to be abducted by fairies into a fantasy world episode." At least Butt-Monkey remembered not to eat the food this time. Otherwise, this episode, like the Hoover Girl episode, was just an excuse for KyoAni artists to experiment with different art-styles; and the writers to draw out one joke too many from a bag of un-bearable puns.

It was cute, but possibly duller than a bag full of marbles, and definitely dumber than a bag of hammers. Remember kids, exploiting children is fun, and is totally worth all the therapy they'll have to go through later ... assuming the goblins don't get them first!

[Marcus H.]

Okay, so apparently next episode is CATS. "Schrödinger's Cat Mansion", to be exact.

We've literally gone from abducting bunnies to mushroom bears to CATS.

[Faux Mecha]

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Albrecht is so cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute~!

i was expecting Albrecht to be more like Ted minus the alcoholism & sex drive, that or Kurumi has some sick imagination,

despite being just an imagine spot, i celebrate when Ruru gets eaten by baby Reina, bye bye dumb annoying mascot character that doesn't contribute to the team other than piss you off,

seriously KyoAni, just adapt another chapter of FMP! intead of wasting the budget on crappy parody mecha designs.

[Hiroi Sekai]

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Albrecht is so cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute~!

I want my own Albrecht. I adore his massive cuddly smile.

[Anh_Minh]

It was cute. It was in line with the rest. I don't know what the haters expect to be so disappointed every week.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

It was cute. It was in line with the rest. I don't know what the haters expect to be so disappointed every week.

What we expected was a bit of originality something sorta knew. None of us will disagree it was cute the problem is its literally the exact same as the last one. COTD gets rid of a struggle using a phantom world and an important character. The fact is you lack orginality. Mai Koito and Kurumi all have basically the same story with small differences. Now the problem is you have a clear plot line in whatever that device was but you refuse to use it. Its not only unintelligent its borderline ridiculous.

[Marcus H.]

I'm starting to miss the main plot. It's not like the phantom-of-the-week aspect is bad. In fact it's nice to see how some phantoms can interact well with humans. This episode was a bit too simple, though. Makes you wonder if Kurumi is a good fit for the show.

[Klashikari]

Aside of the "girl problem => phantom taking advantage of that" formula here, I don't see the problem here either.

Nothing mindblowing, and more or less passable in my books. Episodes so far actually expanded a bit each character, so at least we are done with that (unless they do some sort of haru's special ep). Unlike Reina and Koito, Kurumi's "issue" is more or less fixed, and she is actually showing more potential on the long run, sort of.

My main complain though is that Haru is a good sidekick, but a dull main protagonist. It would have been less jarring if the series followed Mai's perspective but that's probably just me.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I'm starting to miss the main plot. It's not like the phantom-of-the-week aspect is bad. In fact it's nice to see how some phantoms can interact well with humans. This episode was a bit too simple, though. Makes you wonder if Kurumi is a good fit for the show.

Kurumi is a good fit for the show but the problem is more or less Haru.

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Aside of the "girl problem => phantom taking advantage of that" formula here, I don't see the problem here either.

Nothing mindblowing, and more or less passable in my books. Episodes so far actually expanded a bit each character, so at least we are done with that (unless they do some sort of haru's special ep). Unlike Reina and Koito, Kurumi's "issue" is more or less fixed, and she is actually showing more potential on the long run, sort of.

My main complain though is that Haru is a good sidekick, but a dull main protagonist. It would have been less jarring if the series followed Mai's perspective but that's probably just me.

Its passable i agree but not by much. You had a good plot going with Koito and the device he took but now you've ignored it. Plus the phantom of the week problem is fine if you have variety but these are extremely similar stories with mai Rena Koito and Kurumi. The problem is if you watch the early parts of the episode what happens is EXTREMELY predictable.

I'll also agree that Haru is a terrible protagonist however the lack of a concrete plot 6 episodes in is jarring. Again i'm reminded of a show from last season charlotte First episode good and had potential 2-6 simply lost that potential. This next one interestingly enough seems like one for him which i pray i'm wrong about

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Its passable i agree but not by much. You had a good plot going with Koito and the device he took but now you've ignored it. Plus the phantom of the week problem is fine if you have variety but these are extremely similar stories with mai Rena Koito and Kurumi. The problem is if you watch the early parts of the episode what happens is EXTREMELY predictable. I'll also agree that Haru is a terrible protagonist however the lack of a concrete plot 6 episodes in is jarring. Again i'm reminded of a show from last season charlotte First episode good and had potential 2-6 simply lost that potential. This next one interestingly enough seems like one for him which i pray i'm wrong about

That's why I said "in my books". You don't have to challenge anyone's opinion about "it is passable, but barely!". I think you have voiced your opinion loudly enough already.

The similarities between Mai, Rena, Koito and Kurumi stories are merely how the story proceeds with them, but their issues and conclusions are definitely different.
-Mai's case isn't even a problem to begin with, and it is a downright interactions with phantoms years before.
-Reina's issue is strictly a human based one, and a phantom took advantage of it. Her family issue isn't even fixed yet, but she actually didn't fall for some artificial comfort and sees herself part of the group now. Even if she still didn't tell her parents she is in a phantom hunting club, that episode is actually meaningful considering she could simply indulge herself with the phantoms, but didn't in the end.
-Koito's issue is phantom related, and the phantom she wants to exact revenge on is still at large or sealed. That said, that instance made her open up slightly towards Haru's clique.
-Kurumi's issue is personal and its source is mainly her own insecurity. We have a glimpse of her imagination which is in line with her age and traits.

All those issues are completely different from each other, and while the series didn't make much to solve them in a different fashion, their respective outcome aren't the same whatsoever (heck, even Reina and Koito are definitely not on the same page when it comes to conclusion).

Predictable? Sure, but is that really makes the show bad? Honestly, I don't see what you are even expecting from a series that doesn't take itself too seriously and goes just on harmless fun. It isn't like Musaigen had any pretention of being serious whatsoever thus far, and even Haru's infodump are more like trivia and (overused) jokes than anything else.

Finally, I don't see why we need the "main plot asap" where the main plot was rather subverted thus far, with characters being more important from the very first episode. It is way more logical to expand all the main characters first so the audience knows them for a bit instead of having characters problems coincidentally merged with a main plot whatsoever. It isn't like 1 episode without that device means they completely took that plot part entirely. The first half of the series is done, and we are done with characters introductions and world setting. Long winded? Perhaps, but arguably not alarming.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

That's why I said "in my books". You don't have to challenge anyone's opinion about "it is passable, but barely!". I think you have voiced your opinion loudly enough already.

The similarities between Mai, Rena, Koito and Kurumi stories are merely how the story proceeds with them, but their issues and conclusions are definitely different.
-Mai's case isn't even a problem to begin with, and it is a downright interactions with phantoms years before.
-Reina's issue is strictly a human based one, and a phantom took advantage of it. Her family issue isn't even fixed yet, but she actually didn't fall for some artificial comfort and sees herself part of the group now. Even if she still didn't tell her parents she is in a phantom hunting club, that episode is actually meaningful considering she could simply indulge herself with the phantoms, but didn't in the end.
-Koito's issue is phantom related, and the phantom she wants to exact revenge on is still at large or sealed. That said, that instance made her open up slightly towards Haru's clique.
-Kurumi's issue is personal and its source is mainly her own insecurity. We have a glimpse of her imagination which is in line with her age and traits.

All those issues are completely different from each other, and while the series didn't make much to solve them in a different fashion, their respective outcome aren't the same whatsoever (heck, even Reina and Koito are definitely not on the same page when it comes to conclusion).

Predictable? Sure, but is that really makes the show bad? Honestly, I don't see what you are even expecting from a series that doesn't take itself too seriously and goes just on harmless fun. It isn't like Musaigen had any pretention of being serious whatsoever thus far, and even Haru's infodump are more like trivia and (overused) jokes than anything else.

Finally, I don't see why we need the "main plot asap" where the main plot was rather subverted thus far, with characters being more important from the very first episode. It is way more logical to expand all the main characters first so the audience knows them for a bit instead of having characters problems coincidentally merged with a main plot whatsoever. It isn't like 1 episode without that device means they completely took that plot part entirely. The first half of the series is done, and we are done with characters introductions and world setting. Long winded? Perhaps, but arguably not alarming.

Its all opinion really. Then again the fact that most of this is apparently AO is terrifying because Kyoani adapted a story and then completely ignored it. You hoped if thats the case you get something far better but so far its failed to deliver. Many other stories are in their 2nd plotlines possibly third.

[Klashikari]

And what's the actual issue with anime original if it is done right?
I swear the community is stigmatizing the word "anime original" or "filler" for no damn reason.

Yes, AO are often bad because they generally are there for padding, which often drags the plot pace or incurs contradictions/clumsy mistakes that will lead to issues with later arcs etc. But that's not an iron rule, and there are instances where AO are actually nice and expanding the original franchise without any issue whatsoever (prime example I have in mind is Shingeki no Kyojin "filler" episode).

Thus far, I didn't even notice Kurumi's episode was a filler, and it didn't feel particularly better or worse than previous episodes at all. In such case, that's pretty ok since that episode didn't feel out of place, which makes it a succesful AO in my books.
Could they proceed with the plot without Kurumi's episode? Absolutely! Is that episode completely useless? Imo, not really. It actually gives some thoughts for a character that appeared as a "token loli" thus far, and she got development thanks to it. So really, I can't call that a "pointless filler" at all. It is mainly in line with previous episodes. In fact, she has somewhat a well earned role now, because prior that episode, I felt her presence was merely as to fill the loli quota.

I don't even understand your complain while you admit yourself that you didn't even read the original LN. How is that even pertinent to call that "oh, it is anime original, so it is bad/terrifying!" when you don't have the actual knowledge to be the judge? Parroting some LN readers who rightfully dislike them? That's really not really a fair judgement if you ask me.
If you didn't like the episodes thus far, that's cool since it is your opinion. But please do not start using the excuse it is a "AO" to justify the series shortcoming. I don't buy that.

As someone who often advocate accurate and faithful adaption above anything else, I still believe AO are never a problem so long they make -sense- with the series.

[novalysis]

In any case, Kyo-ani has been infamous for making much of their adaptations, being largely anime original. This happened for Chuunibyou, it happened for Kyokai no Kanata, it happened for Tamako Market. That Kyo-ani choose to go down this route, rather than the approach they took for Hyouka or to a large extent, Hibike Euphonium, shouldn't surprise people.

[Eisdrache]

The episodes are plenty fine. Not saying they're the epitome of creativity but you guys are fixating on that single point so hard that you're averting your eyes purposely from all the other things.

It took me more time to look up the goddamn difference between purposely and purposefully than to write this post and I still don't get it.

[Hakuro]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Okay, so apparently next episode is CATS. "Schrödinger's Cat Mansion", to be exact.

We've literally gone from abducting bunnies to mushroom bears to CATS.

Schrödinger's Cat episode is actually part of the LN so Kyoani is going back to the source instead of keeping the anime original content - which was already full of shit - so at this point they're not going into the main plot, just another Amagi Brilliant Park ending.

If the AO episodes were fine then Phantom World should be doing a much better job on Japan, and that's not the case - if you want guys check Nico and SP as example -. So yeah even if is really hard to complain in this forum since everyone with a negative perspective is getting nuked, the numbers and how the Japanese viewers feels about this adaptation is right there as a fact.

Next episodes.

Spoiler for Already published:

■7話「シュレディンガーの猫屋敷」2/17
脚本＝吉田玲子　演出・絵コンテ＝河浪栄作　作画監督＝瀬崎利恵
暖かな日の光が気持ちのいい1日、誰も彼もが、まるで猫のように背中を丸めて、ゴロゴロとまど ろんでいる。
そんな中1匹のまよい猫を探してほしいという依頼が入った。だらけた気持ちをしゃんとさせて、 晴彦たちは
捜索へと動き出す。

■8話「猿温泉を突破せよ！」2/24
脚本＝西川昌志　演出・絵コンテ＝北之原孝將　作画監督＝明見裕子
晴彦たちが通うホセア学院の中庭に突然温泉がわきはじめた。さらにそこには大量の猿ファントムたちが現れて おり、
女子生徒たちに乱暴を働こうとする。

■9話「幕末ファントム異聞」3/2
脚本＝志茂文彦　演出＝三好一郎 絵コンテ＝石原立也　作画監督＝角田有希
ホセア学院演劇部のたったひとりの部員・北島亜弓（きたじまあゆみ）に頼まれて晴彦たちは芝居を手伝うこと になる。
だが、演劇部内には不審なファントムの気配がうごめいていた。

■10話「小さいルルの大きい夢」3/9
脚本＝志茂文彦　演出＝三好一郎 絵コンテ＝石原立也　作画監督＝角田有希
小さな妖精型ファントム・ルルの夢は、ラムネを1本まるまる飲むこと。ある日、ファントムの願いをかなえて 回っているという
魔女ファントムに出会ったルルは、「大きくなりたい」と彼女にお願いする。

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Hakuro

If the AO episodes were fine then Phantom World should be doing a much better job on Japan, and that's not the case - if you want guys check Nico and SP as example -. So yeah even if is really hard to complain in this forum since everyone with a negative perspective is getting nuked, the numbers and how the Japanese viewers feels about this adaptation is right there as a fact.

I find funny you say that "you can't complain" despite I'm usually one of those who openly accept criticism and often resort to that.
The main point is that AO or not doesn't mean jackshit if the directing and so forth is weak, which is the main problem for Musaigen.

As a non LN reader, the quality didn't exactly improve or deteriorate with the AO content, so honestly, claiming AO is the core of the problem is not exactly pertinent thus far.

Using japanese feedback isn't any better because it is plainly nitpicking with vocal reponses. That's as good as picking 2chan comments and making it "relevant".

Musaigen is definitely not popular in Japan, that's a given fact. That said, I don't see how the AO alone is the cause of this.
There are instances where KyoAni original did hurt one of their franchises (Chuunibyou second season among all things), but that doesn't make it a rule.