2018-05-27, 03:17 | Link #3301 | ||
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That said, I already gave Franxx credits for other aspects like the decent-to-great execution of some parts in the past episodes. Ikuno's confession to Ichigo is one of them.
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2018-05-27, 04:18 | Link #3304 |
Maddo Scientisto
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It's not even that: the cons are conveniently manufactured plot devices. Be it the sterility, the loss of emotions (which isn't clear what comes from; even if it's just an effect of immortality, wouldn't that kind of total existential boredom take at least a couple centuries to kick in?), or the fact that immortality can only be obtained by using the same form of energy that now powers the world and that somehow also is defended by this ancient civilisation of biomechanical monsters, it's all plot setup. None of that is necessarily a logical consequence of immortality, it's all plot contrivances, like the Franxx requiring fertile people to pilot them. It doesn't make sense even in its own internal logic, it's just arbitrary bits of world building tacked on to make the story go where they wanted it to.
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2018-05-27, 08:43 | Link #3306 |
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I think Hiro is actually doing some masterminding of his own. He arranges the marriage to see what the response would be. Then he eggs the team to all go and confront Papa with much shouting. After which he demands freedom following the next battle.
Now you might say that it does not seem very mastermindy to state you are rebelling before you are actually able to to the all powerful world goverment. However he had to get the whole squad ready to fight Papa fast and that was the fastest way to do it. But that opened them up to retribution so he gave his demand for freedom after the next battle, even though by this time I do not think he believes a word that Papa says. He knows that they need the squad and that they are confident that they can control the parasites. So with his demand he bought them some time and access to their Franxxs. |
2018-05-27, 09:24 | Link #3307 | |
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2018-05-27, 09:52 | Link #3308 |
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I can see Hiro gonna be kidnapped soon .
Because all Klaxxosaur is female , Hiro would be the 1st male Klaxxosaur hybrid . The nine is not really Klaxxosaur hybrid , they are more human like , i doubt they have that blue heart and blue horn which Hiro is possessing . |
2018-05-27, 10:01 | Link #3309 |
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Location: Portugal
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You have failed me Trigger. This recent episode was the most underwhelming backstory i ever seen. Literally, my only interest in the anime were the cool animated action scenes, the artstyle and the mistery behind that world. And the latter, turned out to be a huge disappointing mess so far
The poor way they dealt with the immortality theme was ridiculous. It's hard to believe people would lose interest in life or forgetting their "emotions" by being immortal for 50 years or so because they had pleasure machines at home..lol. The story would make sense if hundreds of years have passed. And what's up with the Franxx robot they created? So they create and design a machine to later "discover" it only works with the union of a female and a male pilot? What? If the technology belonged to some ancient civilization and they just reverse engineered it, it could make sense... i dont know, something linked to the klaxossaurs origins? Since the show inplies those creatures existed in the underground for quite some time and went berserk after humans messed up with their environment. It's like me developing a toaster and later "discover" it does not work with electricity..lol. Honestly everything was so rushed and poorly explained. And what was explained made no sense. I can only hope the next episodes can explore all these subjects a little bit more including the downfall of humanity. But i don't know, I think the producers main goal was just making a shipping love story with kids exploring their sexuality and fanservice. Everything else just had a lazy sci-fi background to bait people like me . I bet the Dino princess story will be shady and disappointing too. Trigger pls!!! Redeem yourselves in the following episodes... explore the world building and take a break with all the thots and shippings for the love of gawd |
2018-05-27, 10:13 | Link #3311 | |
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I'll just wait for the next Imaishi show, I guess. But yeah, this falls proudly in line with a long tradition of mecha shows that try to rip off Evangelion and manage to have a world building that makes even less sense than that one's. At this point, I'll stick to the end in the hopes of a spectacular enough final battle, and that's it. They even deprived us of the joys of Zero Two by turning her into a Good Girl (TM) after episode 15, which was a terrible shame.
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2018-05-27, 10:23 | Link #3312 | |
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Failed samples wouldn't be used as breeding sources. It wouldn't produce good pilots. They have to only place them in those vats to produce them. And they just need egg and sperm samples which they could have harvested from successful pilots or continue to use from the original population. They are using artificial uteri to mature the pilots. The birth memory is prob artificially implanted in all of them. I also don't believe Papa with regards to Kokoro and Mitsuru's memories. Something is compelling them to keep their rings on. Maybe they are the next generation's Nana and Hachi.
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2018-05-27, 10:34 | Link #3313 | ||
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2018-05-27, 11:05 | Link #3314 | |
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2018-05-27, 11:06 | Link #3315 | |
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Anyway... I've been a bit disappointed about the lack of comment on the confrontation between Hiro and the 13ers and Papa and the APE council. It was unclear after the last episode just where the kids stood but now we can clearly say that mentally they are "done" with the adults. Unsurprisingly, Zorome was the last hold-out and since his hopes and dreams of becoming an adult are now over. The kids don't currently see the adults as "the enemy" but it's quite close. I wonder if Papa and the APE council would genuinely let the kids go after the "final battle", if it turned out to be an option... or if they believe the kids will all conveniently die. I suspect the latter. |
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2018-05-27, 11:52 | Link #3317 | |
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Perhaps love letter is the wrong word because the plot of the show is very different. Perhaps its better to say its in part a homage to EVA. They keep putting in similar scenes so its impossible not to notice. Its not a retelling of EVA, more like filled with eater egg references to EVA. I'm surprised you guys are so negative about the show. Ah well, if I want crazed enthusiasm I do have the DitF reddit.
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2018-05-27, 12:18 | Link #3318 |
Maddo Scientisto
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: UK
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Dear EVA,
I thinks you iz awesome! Because you haz giant robots and hot girls and sexual symbolism and stuff. Please look at my waifu! She like Asuka but better. She haz hornz! Tee-hee I love you much XOXOXO <3 Darling in the FranXX
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2018-05-27, 12:43 | Link #3319 |
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Everybody talks about EVA, but personally I see some similarities with Sidonia no Kishi.
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Main difference is that in Sidonia all pieces seems to fall together like puzzles, making a coherent world, here it feels a bit opposite. I mean, if that magical energy makes a post-scarcity world, why not just built one plantation for the most successful parasites? Also some parasites kamikaze'd with tanks full of it, so why not make some missiles with it? It just feels like some decided to make "castrated cold adult vs horny teens drama" and that's it. In the end, it all just comes to how big suspension of believe one can have. From the other hand, "teen drama" part seems to work, Kiznaiver hasn't created such heated fanboys wars. And memes.
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2018-05-27, 12:45 | Link #3320 |
Kana Hanazawa ♥
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I used to be positive about it, but its flaws have gotten way too big to ignore. It always had them, but they were less noticeable. I was first extremely disappointed by episode 14, which for a while seemed like an accident because the following episodes were really great. However, the past couple episodes have been really bad. Plot induced stupidity, a poorly written backstory, and the oversimplification of the show's themes like immortality being among said flaws.
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