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StarCreator · 2004-02-16, 04:21

I watched mine over a week ago.

Galvatron · 2004-02-17, 20:12

This happened to me to, at Suncoast, it wasn't there on it's release date and they had no records in their books of it coming out anytime soon, but i went back a week later for another release and finally it showed up..keep looking it's definately gonna be there sooner or later

AnimeOni · 2004-02-20, 16:33

It's at Best Buy. I see four copies on the shelves today.
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SamGadsby · 2004-05-09, 23:56

So fansubbing stopped at 44, and the last episode is 45 so I heard. (I'm not asking for them, I know it's liscensed.) However, AnimeNfo says there are 68 episodes. Were only 45 episodes encoded? or are there only 45 episodes to the series? Who is correct? How many episodes are there?

Also, if it's only 45, then what happened to the Tai country story arc, with the black kirin?

Spoiler:

Geist · 2004-05-09, 23:59

"(45) Juuni Kokki (aka Twelve Kingdoms), cut back from the original 68"
That's what it says in the "How many episodes" thread.

babbito2k · 2004-05-10, 00:06

"Cut back" is correct. Youko is no longer the main character after the series gets past a certain point and the action kind of sprawls. The plug was pulled because the show was changing too much.

Episode 45 is a wrapup of the story arc preceding it, at least that's what I gathered from reading about that episode. So I guess not much was missed.

But I really liked what was happening in the later arcs. The way they presented it was great, with Youko learning deeper Confucian principles through hearing the stories.

Za Paper · 2004-05-10, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamGadsby

So fansubbing stopped at 44, and the last episode is 45 so I heard. (I'm not asking for them, I know it's liscensed.) However, AnimeNfo says there are 68 episodes. Were only 45 episodes encoded? or are there only 45 episodes to the series? Who is correct? How many episodes are there?

Also, if it's only 45, then what happened to the Tai country story arc, with the black kirin?

Spoiler:

Dont trust Animenfo, they have been slacking lately. The Taiki arc was never resolved. Maybe it was explained later in the novels but the anime never explained how he got back to Hourai.

Karala · 2004-05-10, 01:45

This whole time I thought there were only 44 episodes! O_o I wanna see 45 now!

They stopped the series because from that point on the plot changed to other people and Youko wasn't involved anymore. Also, the writer of the novel series hasn't finished the novels and I don't believe there's any word on where he's going to be continuing them, he stopped writing them in 2001...

Too bad, eh? That's one of the best series ever...

Oh and about the black kirin, it was never explained the the series, which is too bad because they put lots of episodes into that arc with no ending for it... I believe the site that translates the novels online has the answer, I'm not sure.

Yamano667 · 2004-05-10, 10:59

Well 45 episodes is enough for me, 68 episodes was going to be too much and
anyways THEY WERE LOSING THE THREAD OF THE STORY

babbito2k · 2004-05-10, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamano667

Well 45 episodes is enough for me, 68 episodes was going to be too much and anyways THEY WERE LOSING THE THREAD OF THE STORY

To me the thread of the story is Confucianism - the philosophy of right conduct leading to the greatest good. I thought that the series had a very tight grasp on this theme, and that it was well-expressed and understandable.

Having said that, it is hard to see much purpose in prolonging the series. Youko had not mastered everything but she was very capable. There were already plenty of contrasting stories told to show how things could go wrong through bad intentions or focus on less than the greatest good.

SamGadsby · 2004-05-10, 11:48

I liked these new story arcs. The show is called twelve kingdoms and I was looking forward to a story involving all of them. I also liked how they were teaching her about this world.

Karala · 2004-05-10, 20:38

Well, I think they could've done something about the black kirin

just make something up that ties Youko in the plot, her friend was hanging around with the guy and wondering what he was, so maybe she could come back in the series for the ending too... I know it wouldn't be following the novel, but I've never had a problem with a little creativity, it would've given a proper ending

trish · 2004-05-11, 04:58

Isn't there a cd drama that concluded Taiki's story?

TrexSchad · 2004-05-20, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quarkboy

Did anyone else notice that the only conspiring minister that is spared the empresses wrath at the end of the show is the female? I almost found that a bit sexist since she was obviously conspiring with the coucil-head guy.

My understanding is that the woman (and man beside her) were Ministers of Shuukan, which is the ministry that oversees the ministers in the Kingdom. Kei-oh understood that by removing the Ministers of Shuukan, she'd be interefering in a place she shouldn't. Rather, she is allowing them to convict their own friends as a testament to her power to see what they were up to.

I think it was brilliant, not sexist.

Seravy · 2004-05-20, 19:47

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Originally Posted by StarCreator

This has been brought up many times. The answer, again...

When the series started, it was originally planned at 68 episodes. However, NHK halted it at episode 45 (at the end of that particular story arc). Two possible explanations for this have been given...

1) NHK feels that, if Youko isn't the main protagonist (she doesn't appear in this next arc in the novel order) then they won't have as much of a viewer base.

2) They may be waiting for more novels to be finished by the original author.

There hasn't been any additional word as far as I know.

As I understnd it "68 episodes" was actually never officially announced by NHK. That number was actually one that a MediaBlasters rep dropped in a JK topic on the AOD board. 39 was definitely the initial target, with more tentatively planned. As after 39 there was a several month hiatus before 40-45 aired; guess they couldn't satisfactorily reconcile the material from the novel with the idea of keeping Youko the main thread (at least with what they had to work with at that time). Hopefully it'll continue once they've worked those details out.

LordTenchi7 · 2004-05-23, 18:22

Animenfo removed the halted part and now says 68 eps. I have been looking around and it looks like they may be starting it up again. I AM SOOOOO HAPPY!!!!

DrWho2002 · 2004-05-24, 00:22

Any sites that confirm that? I'm gonna need more than the word of some poster.

Blaat · 2004-05-24, 02:45

I second that.

I'm going to be very happy if its true

~~ZeppelinJ0~~ · 2004-06-03, 16:30

Just bringing this one back... Any idea how many episodes there actually are? Volume 6 and 7 are slated for release on DVD, not sure what episodes these are.

donna8157 · 2004-06-05, 19:13

There are 39 episodes and they recently released 40-45 (I believe). The DVD yet to come out contains Episodes 19-22. (please correct me if i'm wrong)

I'm also a big fan of Juuni Kokki. I hope they will continue it.

2004-02-16, 04:21	Link #61
StarCreator HnK founding lunatic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 41	I watched mine over a week ago. __________________ * StarCreator * Hikari no Kiseki

2004-02-20, 16:33	Link #63
AnimeOni Raid-the-mods Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sol System	It's at Best Buy. I see four copies on the shelves today. ________ Kodiak Last edited by AnimeOni; 2011-03-05 at 11:00.

2004-05-09, 23:56	Link #64
SamGadsby Vector Employee Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rochester NY / Lima OH	Juuni Kokuki (12 Kokki) aka Twelve Kingdoms So fansubbing stopped at 44, and the last episode is 45 so I heard. (I'm not asking for them, I know it's liscensed.) However, AnimeNfo says there are 68 episodes. Were only 45 episodes encoded? or are there only 45 episodes to the series? Who is correct? How many episodes are there? Also, if it's only 45, then what happened to the Tai country story arc, with the black kirin? Spoiler: So he lost his memory and is living in Japan,.. now what? The series just dropped that without explaining why or resolving it. Did I miss something?

2004-05-23, 18:22	Link #76
LordTenchi7 OI! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Georgia Age: 40	yay Animenfo removed the halted part and now says 68 eps. I have been looking around and it looks like they may be starting it up again. I AM SOOOOO HAPPY!!!!

2004-02-17, 20:12	Link #62
Galvatron Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 41	This happened to me to, at Suncoast, it wasn't there on it's release date and they had no records in their books of it coming out anytime soon, but i went back a week later for another release and finally it showed up..keep looking it's definately gonna be there sooner or later

2004-05-09, 23:59	Link #65
Geist Mind Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Human body	"(45) Juuni Kokki (aka Twelve Kingdoms), cut back from the original 68" That's what it says in the "How many episodes" thread.

2004-05-10, 00:06	Link #66
babbito2k annoying white bat Join Date: Jan 2004	"Cut back" is correct. Youko is no longer the main character after the series gets past a certain point and the action kind of sprawls. The plug was pulled because the show was changing too much. Episode 45 is a wrapup of the story arc preceding it, at least that's what I gathered from reading about that episode. So I guess not much was missed. But I really liked what was happening in the later arcs. The way they presented it was great, with Youko learning deeper Confucian principles through hearing the stories.

2004-05-10, 01:45	Link #68
Karala Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	This whole time I thought there were only 44 episodes! O_o I wanna see 45 now! They stopped the series because from that point on the plot changed to other people and Youko wasn't involved anymore. Also, the writer of the novel series hasn't finished the novels and I don't believe there's any word on where he's going to be continuing them, he stopped writing them in 2001... Too bad, eh? That's one of the best series ever... Oh and about the black kirin, it was never explained the the series, which is too bad because they put lots of episodes into that arc with no ending for it... I believe the site that translates the novels online has the answer, I'm not sure.

2004-05-10, 10:59	Link #69
Yamano667 Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The moon :)	Well 45 episodes is enough for me, 68 episodes was going to be too much and anyways THEY WERE LOSING THE THREAD OF THE STORY

2004-05-10, 11:48	Link #71
SamGadsby Vector Employee Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rochester NY / Lima OH	I liked these new story arcs. The show is called twelve kingdoms and I was looking forward to a story involving all of them. I also liked how they were teaching her about this world.

2004-05-10, 20:38	Link #72
Karala Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Well, I think they could've done something about the black kirin just make something up that ties Youko in the plot, her friend was hanging around with the guy and wondering what he was, so maybe she could come back in the series for the ending too... I know it wouldn't be following the novel, but I've never had a problem with a little creativity, it would've given a proper ending

2004-05-11, 04:58	Link #73
trish ★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Apr 2004	Isn't there a cd drama that concluded Taiki's story?

2004-05-24, 00:22	Link #77
DrWho2002 Fushigi Mystery!! @_@ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada, eh?	Any sites that confirm that? I'm gonna need more than the word of some poster.

2004-05-24, 02:45	Link #78
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	I second that. I'm going to be very happy if its true

2004-06-03, 16:30	Link #79
~~ZeppelinJ0~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cali	Just bringing this one back... Any idea how many episodes there actually are? Volume 6 and 7 are slated for release on DVD, not sure what episodes these are.

2004-06-05, 19:13	Link #80
donna8157 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	There are 39 episodes and they recently released 40-45 (I believe). The DVD yet to come out contains Episodes 19-22. (please correct me if i'm wrong) I'm also a big fan of Juuni Kokki. I hope they will continue it.