2009-07-30, 19:35 | Link #1046 |
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I was reading this the 2nd time, and am up to volume 18...
There are so many problems the author made... Manaka clearly likes Toujou more when he let go of his hand when he met her brother... If Manaka did not mention Nishino before the movie, he probably would've ended up with Toujou... T_T If Nishino did not come to school Manaka would've got Toujou's food... The thing is, the author made it so Nishino did it before Toujou did... which makes me PISSED! I can understand Nishino though. QUESTION: Did Manaka hear what Toujou said behind the door? I don't understand his reaction to that... ARG! This manga just isn't fair like other mangas. It was so obvious Manaka decided to answer Nishino because he thought Toujou had a guy already EVEN THOUGH in the beginning he said he trusts her... ._. like what the **** dude... you could've asked or confirmed instead of assuming... it shows that Manaka gives up easily... -.- edit: I just read the last volume for the 2nd time again. Once Toujou said she had gotten over him and could move on, it was all over for Toujou fans. It's really stupid really... goes to show how coincidences can change anything. I feel really sorry for Toujou... pains me inside thinking about what happened. Last edited by ShootingStars; 2009-07-30 at 22:22. |
2009-07-30, 23:08 | Link #1047 | |
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2009-07-30, 23:59 | Link #1048 | |
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the reason for her loss is also Manaka's trust in her... he said he trusted her when she has a guy for the love sanctuary after she avoided him because she lost her bra he just assumed crap and thought she really did have a guy... seriously he could have of asked her but he never confirmed and just went crying to Nishino... even Manaka says it in the manga... if etc. had happened Toujou would've surely won him over through this 2nd reading i was rooting for nishino but near the last volumes my mind changed to Toujou... |
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2009-07-31, 06:33 | Link #1050 | |
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If she really want him, she could try it again. But no, she did nothing at all. I really love the ending because Manaka, who is constantly fickle, are manly enough to prove Nishino that he always long only for her. |
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2009-07-31, 08:33 | Link #1052 | |
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I heard from a rumor that the author had to make the Nishino ending because at that time Nishino fans were the majority...anyway what's done is done I think the ending is kind of crappy. So if I am going to reread this manga for the third time, I will read up to chapter 152 and then switch to chapter 152.5 instead
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2009-07-31, 09:01 | Link #1054 |
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lol, I stated that's just a rumor XD
And that rushed ending (especially that part, "no Aya confessed to me, and I better run to Nishino's house to have intimate relationship") doesn't help to clarify that rumor either But then again, almost every manga kind of has a rushed ending Anyway, as I said, what's done is done
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2009-07-31, 11:55 | Link #1055 | |
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If he had not assumed Toujou had a BF and he was her brother he would NOT have gone that far with Nishino in the first place... it's this insecurity that made the situation favor to Nishino... even Nishino knew Toujou and him had strong feelings for each other. She was afraid they would break up because of it. She wanted to win so bad... -.- The only thing I am glad for is that in the end they have still becomes friends... although it makes me really pissed that Manaka is like I still got to make that movie about the novel... I mean, come on, your relationship with her is practically over -_- and you're still going on about that? FOR A FRIEND? Wow, dude, if that is so, maybe he should hit it up with Satsuki to satisfy her... I did some googling: "Well actually, there is an alternate ending for our dear Toujou Aya, but it is a drama CD. With no translation." OMG... anyone find a translation? Last edited by ShootingStars; 2009-07-31 at 16:04. |
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2009-08-11, 14:16 | Link #1056 |
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I just re- read this manga and I still like the ending. Manaka sure did piss me off at times though.. particularly with how he handled Satsuki. I would have liked if some things were a little different but I'm not the author and will appreciate what we were given to read.
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2009-08-20, 01:24 | Link #1057 | |
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hello there everyone...this is my first writing in this forum...though i've been reading this thread for over a year when I finished reading the manga...I've reread the manga many times before and my last rereading a couple of days ago made me back to this forum again....
well since it's my first post allow me to express my feelings about the manga...though I'll not be stating whom should Manaka end up with...nor say I'm a fan of XXXXXXX girl to avoid being accused of being biased....but allow me first to comment on some previous posts that had me tick: Quote:
1. Chapter 1 (page 2-3) The author introduces the MAIN CHARACTERS of the story namely JUNPEI, AYA and TSUKASA...(when your NEW to reading this manga this page should imply so). 2. BOTH Aya and Tsukasa were given introduction to Junpei BEFORE the identity of the strawberry panties girl was revealed. What's the point? NISHINO is NOT a SECONDARY character...She was introduced as one of the main characters with Manaka and Toujou... and to that I may add, Ichigo 100% is not just purely about the love progress between Aya and Junpei but about the LOVE TRIANGLE relationship among Aya, Tsukasa and Junpei. With regards to the inconsistency of the title: if the title Ichigo 100% was meant just for the strawberry panties girl (Aya), that would not make sense as we are introduced with 3 MAIN characters not just Aya. if the title Ichigo 100% was also meant to be only about Junpei chasing the strawberry panties girl, not only it would not make sense because it would mean that there are only 2 main characters, but also it would mean at the ending Junpei decides like "oh Aya I love you because you're the Strawberry panties girl!" (based on the "consistency" thing). It's just my own analogy, but I think the author meant the title Ichigo 100% is all about: "The vision of the strawberry panties at the roof itself that lead Junpei to meet the 2 most important girls of his life." With regards to the author hinting about the girl that Junpei is going to end with, I think both Toujou and Nishino were equally hinted with highest possibilities for Junpei. ( I'm Talking about ToujouxManaka and NishinoxManaka moments. ) In my Opinion, the reason why most people insist Toujou should end up with Manaka is that: TOUJOU's character is a STEREOTYPICAL HEROINE in a romance shounen manga (shy, timid girl who who gets his man after clearing all misunderstandings between them), While NISHINO's character is also one of the STEREOTYPICAL TRAGIC HEROINE in a romance shounen manga (girl who likes the hero but has to give up due to either her feeling of guilt towards the heroine girl or The man simply chooses the heroine over her). In Ichigo 100%'s case, BOTH TYPES of heroines are INTRODUCED as MAIN HEROINES with EQUAL POSSIBILITIES to WIN his man. but since these types of heroines have their own stereotypes, Most readers who might have read other romance shounen mangas would normally expect the TYPICAL HEROINE(Toujou) to win. Surprisingly, the TYPICAL TRAGIC HEROINE WON, breaking the expectations of many. while many were disappointed at the ending, I feel very satisfied with the ending (though I will have to agree with Vexx that an Axe was put down to chop off the story). I've read other Shounen romance and everytime I feel sorry for the TRAGIC HEROINE characters because no matter how hard they try to prove themselves and their relationship valuable to their loved ones, they are always meant to lose in the battle with the TYPICAL HEROINE. I find Ichigo 100% plot better than other shounen romances as not only the author gave chance for the TYPICAL TRAGIC HEROINE(Nishino) to go on a fair battle with a TYPICAL HEROINE(Toujou) but also shows the readers how the TYPICAL TRAGIC HEROINE types can WIN their love. This manga definitely BREAKS STEREOTYPES of CHARACTERS. sorry I know this was from a very old post but I think his point needs to answered. I wonder if I did, I do agree that the story should be consistent, but I also want to emphasize that Ichigo 100% is consistent, on top of that, a great manga. As for Toujou x Manaka fans, I suddenly remembered a song that i think fits their relationship and the line from that song is: "It's so sad to belong to someone else when the RIGHT ONE comes along." As for Manaka Junpei, or I think the challenge of this manga itself is from the line of this song: "Are you gonna STAY with the ONE who LOVES YOU? or Are you GOING BACK to the ONE YOU LOVE?" I think that will be all for now...thanks for reading. XD Last edited by ufobaby; 2009-08-20 at 03:38. |
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2009-08-20, 06:14 | Link #1058 |
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Maybe the problem for Aya fanboy because story betwen Valentine until Nishino departure not shown. I think that crucial moment when Junpei realise that ONLY NISHINO will always REMAIN with him despite his indeceisive attitude. Too bad author already to tired for continue it futher, if story betwen Junpei and Nishino in that time revealed maybe Aya fanboy will shut up.
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2009-08-20, 07:13 | Link #1059 | |
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2009-08-20, 08:51 | Link #1060 |
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"Some people have said" is still a rumor. We don't know if that ending wasn't what the author had in mind from the beginning, any more than we do - I sure do not remember her ever coming out and saying outright that she bowed to some kind of peer pressure to end her story like that or some such... So, all we have left is speculation, right?
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