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alvinkhorfire · 2011-12-03, 09:34

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

so Shana can turn to 'enpatsu shakugan no uchite' mode without Alastor???

Shana can utilize her Flame Haze power without the presence of her Cocytus, which (in Shana's case) takes the form of a pendant.

Here is additional information from Kinny Riddle's Terminology and Metaphysics Discussion Thread:

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Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

Crimson Lords communicate with their Flame Haze via a Device (Jinki) (I forgot what it's actually called, can someone help?) It comes in any shape the Flame Haze desires. (Shana chooses a pendant for Alastor, Margery a book for Marchosias, Wilhelmina a ribbon for Tiamat, and Khamshin a hand ornament for Behemoth) These Devices act as the eyes and ears of the Flame Haze in our physical world, and can be summoned (teleport) any time even when its not physically by the Flame Haze's side.

In other words, the pendant only stores Alastor's conscience (his brain, to put it simply), but the main body of Alastor and thus his strength are stored inside Shana's body, which acts as a vessel to store the massive existence of Alastor.

I would suggest that anyone, who is the new to this anime or requires a refresher course on this anime, takes a quick read through the Terminology and Metaphysics Discussion Thread which is very informative for anyone.

Elf song · 2011-12-03, 10:03

I think he asks about the sword.
It's indestructible as far as I know, so did Shintetsu Nyoi.

Spoiler for Moe?:

Marcus H. · 2011-12-03, 10:05

I also remember that the Nietono no Shana is an anti-spell (take note, not anti-flame like Azure) sword. Not sure tho.

RJ TAYLER · 2011-12-03, 12:00

This continues, what I am hoping for, a splendid curtain call season for that famous flame haze. I hope the pace does not let up now that we are approaching the 'middle eight' of a season. Loving it all over again so far too. Good to see 'our girl' in fine form as well.

Rie K gets the "hat trick'' again this week with P4A, IM@AS and "Shana" all scoring goals a plenty.

Rava · 2011-12-03, 12:57

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Originally Posted by yindesu

Spoiler for so what happened...:

Spoiler:

I was pretty much cheering when Tenmoku started his path of pwnage.

Rising Dragon · 2011-12-03, 13:59

Has the Nietono-no-Shana always been able to eat existence like it did whenever Tenmoku Ikku killed a Denizen?

Deathscyther · 2011-12-03, 15:00

9/10. Great episode once again!

While Khamsin and Rebecca are being all flashy, Wilhelmina seems to be using a spell which makes her invisible. I guess this means that Khamsin and Rebecca are a diversion while Wilhelmina is trying to find Shana.

Shana was completely helpless again this episode. This shows the difference in power between humans and flame hazes/guze no tomogara. The scene where she couldn't find the strength to stand up was very powerful.

She just needed something to get her powers back. One chance, one moment was all she needed. And that chance came when she called out for her sword with everything she had. And her call was answered. The sword came to her....in the form of Tenmoku Ikko. So he was still in Nientono no Shana after all.

Since Nientono no Shana can cut though Unrestricted Spells, Fecor didn't even stand a chance against Tenmoku Ikko. His magnesia was cancelled and he was cut down. Too bad, since I liked his character/ability.

Now that Shana has her powers back, we will finally get to see her back in action again. She'll have to get stronger in order to beat Yuji though, so let's see how she's planning to combine her 'two sides'.

Seireiden lost the camouflage, so now the other flame haze will be able to find it as well. Shana, Wilhelmina, Khamsin and Rebbeca, combined with outside help will be able to destroy everything there if Yuji and the others don't return soon. I wonder if they'll return soon.

Can't wait for the next episode!

Ec1ge · 2011-12-03, 17:14

10/10 :')

One hell of a beautifully done episode with the most unexpected twist of Tenmoku Ikko being summoned & cutting through Fecor's Magnesia. :'D

alvinkhorfire · 2011-12-03, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I also remember that the Nietono no Shana is an anti-spell (take note, not anti-flame like Azure) sword. Not sure tho.

@Marcus H.
I believe that the following text from Shana Wikia should be rewritten.

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Shana brings up the full potential of the power of the Nietono no Shana, as she was able to make the blade sprout flames, while others who have wielded the blade, such as Sorath and its previous owner Tenmoku Ikko were unable to.

As you said, the katana is anti-spell, but it cannot be used to sprout flames by itself, when it is used by others. Correct me if I am wrong. The flame itself originates from Shana, thus only Shana can make the katana release flame.

On a side note, Shana was certainly terrified when the Rinne kept holding onto her leg, like a mindless zombie.

Certainly a horrifying experience anyone of us would not want to endure.

Marcus H. · 2011-12-03, 20:09

Noted and will be rewritten soon.

Silverwyrm · 2011-12-03, 23:59

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Originally Posted by Key Board

Fecor is dead

very very dead

If so then meh, kinda felt like an "easy way" to get rid of him because the impregnable defense was troublesome to the story, not to mention his entire figuring things out process was then meaningless, since it was just him.

Cosmic Eagle · 2011-12-04, 02:38

The insert that plays when Shana regains her powers is so fitting....

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I also remember that the Nietono no Shana is an anti-spell (take note, not anti-flame like Azure) sword. Not sure tho.

Yes....

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Originally Posted by Elf song

I think he asks about the sword.
It's indestructible as far as I know, so did Shintetsu Nyoi.

Spoiler for Moe?:

Well being Rinne, we can always make more of them

Marcus H. · 2011-12-04, 03:31

Why did I feel bad seeing those Rinne get cut up Higurashi-style? ;_;

Marina2 · 2011-12-04, 05:13

Wait! Did Fecor died just like that???

I thought he will be one very last characters to die O.o

HayashiTakara · 2011-12-04, 05:22

Why can't I help but feel that the Outlaw organization feel like the "real" badguys?

RJ TAYLER · 2011-12-04, 06:45

Living up to their name, perhaps for the first time HayashiTakara?

Cosmic Eagle · 2011-12-04, 06:57

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Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

In other words, the pendant only stores Alastor's conscience (his brain, to put it simply), but the main body of Alastor and thus his strength are stored inside Shana's body, which acts as a vessel to store the massive existence of Alastor.

I would suggest that anyone, who is the new to this anime or requires a refresher course on this anime, takes a quick read through the Terminology and Metaphysics Discussion Thread which is very informative for anyone.

His actual form is in Guze actually...all Flame Haze are like that

Tenpa Jyosai just lets him manifests on this world through the Flame Haze

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Originally Posted by lightbringer

I was really bored watching this. And it doesn't help that I am actually rooting for the Bal Masque team which got their asses handed to them, although Fecor did well to hold out as long as he did. But obviously he has no plot armor against Deus-Ex-Ikko. Shana dismantling that Rinne really bothered me, too. I was hoping they'd skip over that but no such luck.

Remember what Decarabia says...the majority of Bal Masque's forces are being recalled to Seireiden to face the attacking Flame Hazes.

taichi-kun · 2011-12-04, 09:47

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Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

What is the deal with Rebecca removing Balar from her wrist? I thought that she was about to utilize her trump card or her more powerful attack. And yet, subsequent scene seems to show that she did not do anything significant. Why is it so?

It seems to me that the fight was interrupted when rebecca was going to use all her power or maybe JC ommited the fight....

Fecor was one of my favourites... he died so easily.

klare · 2011-12-04, 10:00

what an eps, we learn the secrets of the 2 cities in the sky, Shana's katana can move on its own, and the gate being destroyed by a rocket punch launched from a mecha made of rocks

Shana has been playing princess for too long, surely she will release her anger on those trying to stop her

anyway the defense inside Seirei-den seems weak, really weak...

Rising Dragon · 2011-12-04, 13:08

Can someone please answer my question? ._.

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Has the Nietono-no-Shana always been able to eat existence like it did whenever Tenmoku Ikku killed a Denizen?

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2011-12-03, 10:05	Link #23
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2011-12-03, 12:00	Link #24
RJ TAYLER Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: AUSTRALIA	This continues, what I am hoping for, a splendid curtain call season for that famous flame haze. I hope the pace does not let up now that we are approaching the 'middle eight' of a season. Loving it all over again so far too. Good to see 'our girl' in fine form as well. Rie K gets the "hat trick'' again this week with P4A, IM@AS and "Shana" all scoring goals a plenty. __________________ YOURS RJ TAYLER

2011-12-03, 13:59	Link #26
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Has the Nietono-no-Shana always been able to eat existence like it did whenever Tenmoku Ikku killed a Denizen? __________________

2011-12-03, 15:00	Link #27
Deathscyther Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Netherlands Age: 35	9/10. Great episode once again! While Khamsin and Rebecca are being all flashy, Wilhelmina seems to be using a spell which makes her invisible. I guess this means that Khamsin and Rebecca are a diversion while Wilhelmina is trying to find Shana. Shana was completely helpless again this episode. This shows the difference in power between humans and flame hazes/guze no tomogara. The scene where she couldn't find the strength to stand up was very powerful. She just needed something to get her powers back. One chance, one moment was all she needed. And that chance came when she called out for her sword with everything she had. And her call was answered. The sword came to her....in the form of Tenmoku Ikko. So he was still in Nientono no Shana after all. Since Nientono no Shana can cut though Unrestricted Spells, Fecor didn't even stand a chance against Tenmoku Ikko. His magnesia was cancelled and he was cut down. Too bad, since I liked his character/ability. Now that Shana has her powers back, we will finally get to see her back in action again. She'll have to get stronger in order to beat Yuji though, so let's see how she's planning to combine her 'two sides'. Seireiden lost the camouflage, so now the other flame haze will be able to find it as well. Shana, Wilhelmina, Khamsin and Rebbeca, combined with outside help will be able to destroy everything there if Yuji and the others don't return soon. I wonder if they'll return soon. Can't wait for the next episode! __________________

2011-12-03, 10:03	Link #22
Elf song Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	I think he asks about the sword. It's indestructible as far as I know, so did Shintetsu Nyoi. Spoiler for Moe?:

2011-12-03, 17:14	Link #28
Ec1ge A true 灼眼のシャナ Shanite. :D Join Date: Sep 2011	10/10 :') One hell of a beautifully done episode with the most unexpected twist of Tenmoku Ikko being summoned & cutting through Fecor's Magnesia. :'D

2011-12-03, 20:09	Link #30
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	Noted and will be rewritten soon. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2011-12-04, 03:31	Link #33
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	Why did I feel bad seeing those Rinne get cut up Higurashi-style? ;_; __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

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2011-12-04, 10:00	Link #39
klare Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	what an eps, we learn the secrets of the 2 cities in the sky, Shana's katana can move on its own, and the gate being destroyed by a rocket punch launched from a mecha made of rocks Shana has been playing princess for too long, surely she will release her anger on those trying to stop her anyway the defense inside Seirei-den seems weak, really weak... __________________