2012-09-12, 23:29 | Link #23441 |
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There were reports of possible oil deposits near Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands.
Like most territorial disputes over uninhabited islands, both sides have some sort of claims over them. The Chinese usually cite historic records, suggesting the Chinese were first to discover the islands. There were some disputes between Qing Dynasty and Japan over the islands, but soon Japan took over the islands during Sino-Japanese war. Japan ceded all the lands they captured over the years after WWII, but Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands were not handed back to China. Instead US took control of them. The Japanese case is a little more complicated. Japan gained control of the uninhabited islands at the time of the First Sino-Japanese War. China (Qing government) formally ceded "islands appertaining or belonging to said island of Formosa (Taiwan)" to Japan in its aftermath. So if Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands were part of the islands, then they should be returned to China after WWII. But there is probably no way to make certain. In any case, the islands fell into US control after WWII, which was then handed over to Japan in 1971. Japan controlled them ever since. The possible oil deposit only makes all sides more interested in claiming the islands. |
2012-09-13, 01:14 | Link #23446 |
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China hasn't taken any military action over the islands. At worst there are trash talks from hawkish generals who don't represent the official policy. China is becoming more assertive on disputed claims, but that is a far far far way from the Japanese before end of WWII.
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2012-09-13, 01:16 | Link #23447 | |
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2012-09-13, 01:21 | Link #23448 |
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That's clearly underestimating the JSDF's capabilities I see in those comments. I have yet to see how the PRC's army would do in action against a foreign country. But the last time I read about it, Vietnam made them pay with heavy losses... so much for the so-called powerful army.
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2012-09-13, 01:32 | Link #23450 | |
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2012-09-13, 01:38 | Link #23451 |
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I have Vietnamese blood of my own too. I was just saying that even a country that's apparently small can whoop a superpower's ass even now. If China want to try that with Japan, they surely are knocking at the wrong door for bullying someone.
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And the ones I see are all from Buddhism (due to the fact it's the majority religion in my place)....the most spiritual and gentle of religions corrupted by individuals into such. Can you imagine then what about other more hot blooded faiths? What good then is there to have another outlet for them to act as such in the form of organized religion? I'd rather the practise of spirituality be a private affair since the main aim of it is improving the self.
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2012-09-13, 02:31 | Link #23453 |
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I know it isn't that simple, but still...I think Japan is going to back down from China because they probably won't step out of line over this, but still, if I was Japan, I wouldn't want to conflict too much with China.
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2012-09-13, 03:03 | Link #23454 |
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The islands are "officially" administered by Japan. Ishigaki, Okinawa since 1972. The Japanese govenment has not allowed the islands to be developed in the entire time they have had control of them post-war. Also, if I understand the history correctly, it was considered part of the Ryūkyū Kingdom prior to Japan annexing the place. Japan offered it to China as a peaceful gesture before the Sino-Japanese War, but afterwards took it in full.
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2012-09-13, 03:30 | Link #23455 | |
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They didn't raise a voice about it until the islands were found to be sitting on possible resource goldmine, and returned to Japan by US in early 1970s. I ain't about nothing but money (resource).
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2012-09-13, 04:01 | Link #23456 |
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Well, if they were part of the "United States Civil Administration of the Ryukyu Islands", than they were returned to Japan. Nothing either China says can really change that.
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2012-09-13, 04:32 | Link #23457 |
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They were. Furthermore, as I restate: Chiang gave up the islands along with the Ryukyus in Cairo. PRC might contest it, but they would technically have to challenge the return of the Ryukyu Islands in order to claim Senkaku.
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2012-09-13, 05:19 | Link #23458 |
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Oh, don't even think they aren't trying.
They've been saying Okinawa is theirs to take for years. I'd rather split Senkaku isles with Taiwan before letting PRC have any piece of it. Unfortunately Taiwan is still not recognized as a nation, so that won't fly. I wish they were though. I'm all for independance of Taiwan.
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2012-09-13, 06:31 | Link #23459 |
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Yemeni protesters storm U.S. embassy in Sanaa: witnesses
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88C0AM20120913 Bangladesh Muslims protest, blocked from march on U.S. embassy http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88C0H920120913 Iranians protest film outside Swiss Embassy: report http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88C0G220120913 More like they did in Egypt than in Libya.
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