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DeotoxSlayer · 2009-07-05, 15:53

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Originally Posted by heklin

actually, i posted not long ago saying that i would give an update soon, i just didnt have a chance to do it before AX (see post 192.... and read before you bash people)( not having access to a comp is a bitch)

@trogu - at this time, no, at least noone i would trust with access to my house, altho i do have a friend who will be visiting for comiket in dec as a last resort, we will probably just redo the work instead of waiting that long since there really isnt any garuntee that the comp is there. they shipped it back, but i really dont have a clue whats happened to it after that. i dont know if a neighbor signed for it, or if they just left the stuff by the door etc

You got arrested that sucks.

Anyways it's good to see that your free and okay now and I feel really bad that something like this happened to you.

I'm glad to see that your still planning on releasing the patch and that you still plan on translating Tick Tack and really Really. though it sucks that you have to retranslate shuffle.

Sooooooooo, on another note any chance you may translate Shuffle Essense+???

heklin · 2009-07-05, 15:59

at this point i want to concentrate solely on shuffle and tt, since we already have tools/imagework/codeing etc done tho i personally would like todo all games in the shuffle universe, we will se how things go once we complete what we started

Lvrhina · 2009-07-05, 16:08

Almost the same taste for doujinshi. lol

holyman282 · 2009-07-05, 19:58

omg heklin long time no see. Does that mean they have allowed you back on the computer and anime? I feel really bad for you but hopefully you still remember a few ppl from gamepatch in the old days like me lol.

Redlar · 2009-07-06, 00:17

Oh wow. Now this is just awesome news.

Though it sucks that you got arrested. You must've had a tough judge or a bad lawyer. How can they have jurisdiction over you if you're a Japanese citizen? It should've been tossed out right there.

heklin · 2009-07-06, 01:50

thats part of my problem, im not officially a japanese citizen yet, i had only gotten a resedency visa, and was in the proccess of applying for citizenship, which takes several years to get in japan

Dessert · 2009-07-06, 17:01

Yeah, so now everyone knows whats going on.

As for the MangaGamer thing. I went to try to talk to them a few times, nobody from navel was there, and they refused to give official word whether Shuffle has been licensed or not. Also, during the Bishoujo game panel, they didn't mention navel or shuffle at all really, from what I heard (I was unfortunately unable to make it).

Either way, we will still be releasing shuffle as GamePatch intends. If anyone was able to try the demo on MangaGamer CD's that they gave out....Needless to say its HORRIBLE. A friendly booth at Anime Expo was playing the GamePatch Alpha Patch and humiliating them with it, twas awesome. ^_^

As for a forum, I am looking into getting one set up, and may actually be locally hosting it this time, to avoid problems with crappy hosts etc.

DeotoxSlayer · 2009-07-06, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dessert

Yeah, so now everyone knows whats going on.

As for the MangaGamer thing. I went to try to talk to them a few times, nobody from navel was there, and they refused to give official word whether Shuffle has been licensed or not. Also, during the Bishoujo game panel, they didn't mention navel or shuffle at all really, from what I heard (I was unfortunately unable to make it).

Either way, we will still be releasing shuffle as GamePatch intends. If anyone was able to try the demo on MangaGamer CD's that they gave out....Needless to say its HORRIBLE. A friendly booth at Anime Expo was playing the GamePatch Alpha Patch and humiliating them with it, twas awesome. ^_^

As for a forum, I am looking into getting one set up, and may actually be locally hosting it this time, to avoid problems with crappy hosts etc.

I wasn't really expecting the transaltions by Mangagamer to be good but I can't believe its that horrible.

The only thing that Mangagamer will have going for them is probably uncensored CGs which is nice and all but its not as important as good translations, so i don't really see any point in buying there version when i can get a superior version from you guys.

@Heklin

So do you have to restart the translation for Shuffle(not counting the 3 days in the alpha patch)?

heklin · 2009-07-06, 18:59

not completely, im still sorting, but i was able to recover quite a bit of it from different people that had helped with stuff, later tonight ill make a post of exactly what we have and what is missing

DeotoxSlayer · 2009-07-06, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by heklin

not completely, im still sorting, but i was able to recover quite a bit of it from different people that had helped with stuff, later tonight ill make a post of exactly what we have and what is missing

Okay then that's good thanks for keeping us updated.

heklin · 2009-07-07, 00:28

ok, no update tonight, still waiting for a few people to email me back

Yojimbo108 · 2009-07-07, 05:51

Would just like to add my thanks to the rest of those here. I'm glad you guy's are carrying on with the translation after all thats happened

Serous · 2009-07-07, 08:59

So,are you guys going to update the first post?

Wrath88 · 2009-07-07, 09:41

Well, my sympathies for the bad run of luck you've had, heklin. Can't believe they didn't even give you any chance to contact the outside. Meh, I've been brushing up on my Japanese, so hoping that I'll be able to help somewhat on TT translation.

Hyosuke575 · 2009-07-07, 17:03

Wow.....just wow Heklin. That was quite the story. I was wondering where you had disappeared off to for some odd........well lets just say I lost track.

Anyways its good to finally hear from you as well as whats going on with the Shuffle translation. I used to frequent the site quite a bit when it was actually up. (I see holyman still has his snape avatar)

So when I suddenly stopped and came back later only to notice it wasn't up anymore.......I could only wonder why. Though it didn't take long till I caught word of what was going on, on this forum. Still that was some bad luck you ran into. Sorry you had to go through all that. Though it sounds like the worst is behind you right now. I'm sure you've heard the saying "Just stay positive". I'm sure things will be looking up for you now.

Now about MangaGamer's translation. I wouldn't necessarily say its horrible. Though its not something the fans will truly appreciate. Since I was talking about this with a friend of mine. The difference is these from what I believe are professional translators. Who have deadlines and have to tackle this more quickly than someone translating this out of fun. Plus they still go for more of a literal translation where the fan tries to keep it as close to the original as possible. (shudders thinking about Ar Tonelico) So thats why we enjoy a fan translation more. I mean if they're tackling a game that no one else is translating than by all means I'll jump on it. Like I did with Suika. Though if you have to make a choice like with Shuffle, then its pretty easy to see where the fans will side.

Thats why its great to hear that you guys are continuing. I still need to track myself down a copy, but I look forward to the patch all the same. I wish you guys the best of luck, and like I said its good to have you back Heklin.

Dessert · 2009-07-07, 21:26

Well, the problem with companies is the fact that they have 5-6 translators to keep that deadline, and typically if something doesn't make sense, they make something else up instead of putting something in that will confuse fans.

Hyosuke575 · 2009-07-07, 22:14

Yeah....so true. Especially with all the Japanese puns and how their words sound alike. They can either leave it as is and insert translation notes....... or do exactly like you said and just make it up. Though even if they have a deadline to keep they should still do a good job proofreading. I'm still finding grammatical errors and the like in Suika. Kinda annoying when I feel like someone like myself is a better proofreader than a professional. Still like I said at least the game got translated.......more or less.

Dessert · 2009-07-07, 23:23

Well, good news everyone!

After doing a bit of recovering, we have been able to find approx 1/3 of the game, including all of the actual game tools, english EXE, etc.

Either heklin or myself will give a more detailed update later.

On another note, if anyone is willing to host a small forum, or knows where I could get some reliable hosting for a small forum, please send me a PM on the boards. Thanks.

appztetra · 2009-07-08, 03:33

thanks! GP!

sora12 · 2009-07-08, 08:25

wow good thing you guys are back. well sorry for heklin for what happened. well ill pray that you guys wil have a smooth progress

2009-07-05, 19:58	Link #244
holyman282 Snape: "I hate Potter!" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia	omg heklin long time no see. Does that mean they have allowed you back on the computer and anime? I feel really bad for you but hopefully you still remember a few ppl from gamepatch in the old days like me lol. __________________ My Anime Music Videos Sola Anime Music Video, Seto No Hanayome Anime Music Video

2009-07-07, 09:41	Link #254
Wrath88 Kissing... Join Date: Dec 2005	Well, my sympathies for the bad run of luck you've had, heklin. Can't believe they didn't even give you any chance to contact the outside. Meh, I've been brushing up on my Japanese, so hoping that I'll be able to help somewhat on TT translation. __________________ Okairii, Nerine-chan

2009-07-05, 15:59	Link #242
heklin YOU want ME to do WHAT? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Age: 69	at this point i want to concentrate solely on shuffle and tt, since we already have tools/imagework/codeing etc done tho i personally would like todo all games in the shuffle universe, we will se how things go once we complete what we started

2009-07-05, 16:08	Link #243
Lvrhina Akamatsu Fan Join Date: Jun 2009	Almost the same taste for doujinshi. lol

2009-07-06, 00:17	Link #245
Redlar Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Oh wow. Now this is just awesome news. Though it sucks that you got arrested. You must've had a tough judge or a bad lawyer. How can they have jurisdiction over you if you're a Japanese citizen? It should've been tossed out right there.

2009-07-06, 01:50	Link #246
heklin YOU want ME to do WHAT? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Age: 69	thats part of my problem, im not officially a japanese citizen yet, i had only gotten a resedency visa, and was in the proccess of applying for citizenship, which takes several years to get in japan

2009-07-06, 17:01	Link #247
Dessert Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Yeah, so now everyone knows whats going on. As for the MangaGamer thing. I went to try to talk to them a few times, nobody from navel was there, and they refused to give official word whether Shuffle has been licensed or not. Also, during the Bishoujo game panel, they didn't mention navel or shuffle at all really, from what I heard (I was unfortunately unable to make it). Either way, we will still be releasing shuffle as GamePatch intends. If anyone was able to try the demo on MangaGamer CD's that they gave out....Needless to say its HORRIBLE. A friendly booth at Anime Expo was playing the GamePatch Alpha Patch and humiliating them with it, twas awesome. ^_^ As for a forum, I am looking into getting one set up, and may actually be locally hosting it this time, to avoid problems with crappy hosts etc.

2009-07-06, 18:59	Link #249
heklin YOU want ME to do WHAT? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Age: 69	not completely, im still sorting, but i was able to recover quite a bit of it from different people that had helped with stuff, later tonight ill make a post of exactly what we have and what is missing

2009-07-07, 00:28	Link #251
heklin YOU want ME to do WHAT? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Age: 69	ok, no update tonight, still waiting for a few people to email me back

2009-07-07, 05:51	Link #252
Yojimbo108 The Dark Aeon Join Date: Dec 2007	Would just like to add my thanks to the rest of those here. I'm glad you guy's are carrying on with the translation after all thats happened

2009-07-07, 08:59	Link #253
Serous Member Join Date: Mar 2008	So,are you guys going to update the first post?

2009-07-07, 17:03	Link #255
Hyosuke575 Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Wow.....just wow Heklin. That was quite the story. I was wondering where you had disappeared off to for some odd........well lets just say I lost track. Anyways its good to finally hear from you as well as whats going on with the Shuffle translation. I used to frequent the site quite a bit when it was actually up. (I see holyman still has his snape avatar) So when I suddenly stopped and came back later only to notice it wasn't up anymore.......I could only wonder why. Though it didn't take long till I caught word of what was going on, on this forum. Still that was some bad luck you ran into. Sorry you had to go through all that. Though it sounds like the worst is behind you right now. I'm sure you've heard the saying "Just stay positive". I'm sure things will be looking up for you now. Now about MangaGamer's translation. I wouldn't necessarily say its horrible. Though its not something the fans will truly appreciate. Since I was talking about this with a friend of mine. The difference is these from what I believe are professional translators. Who have deadlines and have to tackle this more quickly than someone translating this out of fun. Plus they still go for more of a literal translation where the fan tries to keep it as close to the original as possible. (shudders thinking about Ar Tonelico) So thats why we enjoy a fan translation more. I mean if they're tackling a game that no one else is translating than by all means I'll jump on it. Like I did with Suika. Though if you have to make a choice like with Shuffle, then its pretty easy to see where the fans will side. Thats why its great to hear that you guys are continuing. I still need to track myself down a copy, but I look forward to the patch all the same. I wish you guys the best of luck, and like I said its good to have you back Heklin.

2009-07-07, 21:26	Link #256
Dessert Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Well, the problem with companies is the fact that they have 5-6 translators to keep that deadline, and typically if something doesn't make sense, they make something else up instead of putting something in that will confuse fans.

2009-07-07, 22:14	Link #257
Hyosuke575 Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Yeah....so true. Especially with all the Japanese puns and how their words sound alike. They can either leave it as is and insert translation notes....... or do exactly like you said and just make it up. Though even if they have a deadline to keep they should still do a good job proofreading. I'm still finding grammatical errors and the like in Suika. Kinda annoying when I feel like someone like myself is a better proofreader than a professional. Still like I said at least the game got translated.......more or less.

2009-07-07, 23:23	Link #258
Dessert Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Well, good news everyone! After doing a bit of recovering, we have been able to find approx 1/3 of the game, including all of the actual game tools, english EXE, etc. Either heklin or myself will give a more detailed update later. On another note, if anyone is willing to host a small forum, or knows where I could get some reliable hosting for a small forum, please send me a PM on the boards. Thanks.

2009-07-08, 03:33	Link #259
appztetra Translator, Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2009	thanks! GP!

2009-07-08, 08:25	Link #260
sora12 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008	wow good thing you guys are back. well sorry for heklin for what happened. well ill pray that you guys wil have a smooth progress