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Thingle · 2009-09-02, 07:38

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Thingle · 2009-09-02, 07:41

Spoiler:

synaesthetic · 2009-09-02, 07:45

This doesn't shock me. China has always had a very casual attitude towards other peoples' intellectual property.

Hence all the iPhone knockoffs.

Kusa-San · 2009-09-02, 08:07

Can we have some more info and not only just picture ? And I think it's the wrong section for this kind of topic.

Slice of Life · 2009-09-02, 08:38

On the other hand, Japan is terribly late with the license fees for their writing system ...

synaesthetic · 2009-09-02, 08:46

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Originally Posted by Slice of Life

On the other hand, Japan is terribly late with the license fees for their writing system ...

This is quite possibly the best response to this thread ever.

Kudos, good sir. You've made my morning.

sa547 · 2009-09-02, 09:04

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

This doesn't shock me. China has always had a very casual attitude towards other peoples' intellectual property.

Hence all the iPhone knockoffs.

And an insane flood of cheap consumer electronics and clothes. Which is why I'm still wary of their overreaching tendencies.

Here's the ANN link:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...5cm-per-second

This thread should be in the General Anime section.

MeoTwister5 · 2009-09-02, 09:15

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Originally Posted by Slice of Life

On the other hand, Japan is terribly late with the license fees for their writing system ...

You've just validated my entire opinion of Japanese Kanji for the last 10 years. I love you.

Mithfalath · 2009-09-02, 09:51

This is downright absurd... How cruel.. Now I hate China...

chikorita157 · 2009-09-02, 09:54

In my opinion, this is probably not surprising at all... since they make iPod knockoffs, counterfeit goods and a big problem with piracy after all.

Raiga · 2009-09-02, 10:02

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Originally Posted by Mithfalath

This is downright absurd... How cruel.. Now I hate China...

I don't like it either but isn't that a bit harsh? It's not like the entire country's in on a conspiracy or anything.

It really makes me sad though... I wish the Chinese creative industries could come out with more good original stuff, instead of resorting to this sort of plagiarism.

IMO it's got a lot to do with the histories of the two nations post-WWII... Japan became a place where wacky creative ideas were embraced, China a place where they were suppressed.

Nosauz · 2009-09-02, 10:02

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Originally Posted by Mithfalath

This is downright absurd... How cruel.. Now I hate China...

lol I guess you hate all those portable electronics you use too, considering it's all manufactured in china, really if these companies were worried about ip, they would not locate all their factories in china, have china produce all their components. Is ip important, hell yes, but really when you talk about electronics, iphones would cost 600 dollars and not the 300 they current go for, it just happens when you go to a developing country, imatation is best form a flattery, and considering that most of china is poverty stricken they are still a developing country and not the industrial powerhouses like countries in europe or the north america. If you cross the border to mexico, the amount of "plagirism" is staggering but we don't hear it because they are relatively poor, but it's the precieved threat that china is the big bad comunist that makes these things more incensing. I'm just saying all poor nations do it, but on the electronics front the only one companies have to blame is themselves

This anime but yea wow i don't see in any value of this. might as just pirate the damn movie and not watch this crap

@Raiga, well in the past season on anime we have seen 3 or 4 three kingdoms anime, where the source material is chinese, yet you don't see the government screaming for royalties on a chinese national treasure.

Raiga · 2009-09-02, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Nosauz

@Raiga, well in the past season on anime we have seen 3 or 4 three kingdoms anime, where the source material is chinese, yet you don't see the government screaming for royalties on a chinese national treasure.

Myths and history and great classics I've generally been under the impression are public domain. I'm also not quite sure what part of my post you're responding to...

Your first paragraph raises very good points though.

Proto · 2009-09-02, 10:20

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IMO it's got a lot to do with the histories of the two nations post-WWII... Japan became a place where wacky creative ideas were embraced, China a place where they were suppressed.

... you should read your history books more often. Or give a watch to back in the future.

It is not until recently that Japan started to be considered a innovative and creative nation. Up till the 80's they used the same model as China.

Sister Princess · 2009-09-02, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Mithfalath

This is downright absurd... How cruel.. Now I hate China...

Unless your house is "China free" then it's pointless to try to against it.

Nosauz · 2009-09-02, 10:30

The complete copying of a story with no credit given, in the case of the chinese cctv example is pretty brutally frank about it's plaigarism, but my point was the creativity isn't that free flowing in japan, it's uses many already founded, successful ideas to come up with anime concepts, and they are never considered plagarism. This case is definitely a case of almost 1:1 copy but when you look at a series like gundam seed and first season of code geass, their are many local, situations reused in both series yet I don't remember people claiming plagarism when in fact using a trope or cliche could be considered a copy of an idea.

Anyway I just find that china itself is a contradiction, the rich elite/government want it to be a shining tower of power success and wealth whereas there are still many places of illiterate and poor. It's a country that has two faces, one of industrial power due to size and population, and another one of developing country just trying to stride to break into the 21st century. So it's hard to really prescribe the right reaction to this occurrence.

wontaek · 2009-09-02, 10:45

Let's just say that you will surprised how much Japan and USA copies from other countries as well.

npcomplete · 2009-09-02, 10:56

Similar to what Nosauz mentioned, I wouldn't have a problem with this kind of copying even if illegal, if they simply attributed the work. It's one thing to be inspired by and use elements of another idea that you publicly acknowledge and another thing to pass it off as your own.

LynnieS · 2009-09-02, 10:59

Very lazy of the Chinese animators - assuming that they were Chinese and not from another country getting outsource jobs - for doing this. OTOH, very interesting if they, through this, manage to subliminally attract people's attention using similar backgrounds and characters.

space cowboy · 2009-09-02, 11:28

I saw this earlier today, it kinda takes the piss a bit.

I agree with LynnieS this is very lazy work.

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Nosauz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Age: 35	The complete copying of a story with no credit given, in the case of the chinese cctv example is pretty brutally frank about it's plaigarism, but my point was the creativity isn't that free flowing in japan, it's uses many already founded, successful ideas to come up with anime concepts, and they are never considered plagarism. This case is definitely a case of almost 1:1 copy but when you look at a series like gundam seed and first season of code geass, their are many local, situations reused in both series yet I don't remember people claiming plagarism when in fact using a trope or cliche could be considered a copy of an idea. Anyway I just find that china itself is a contradiction, the rich elite/government want it to be a shining tower of power success and wealth whereas there are still many places of illiterate and poor. It's a country that has two faces, one of industrial power due to size and population, and another one of developing country just trying to stride to break into the 21st century. So it's hard to really prescribe the right reaction to this occurrence.

2009-09-02, 10:45	Link #17
wontaek Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Planet Earth Age: 54	Let's just say that you will surprised how much Japan and USA copies from other countries as well. __________________

2009-09-02, 10:56	Link #18
npcomplete Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008	Similar to what Nosauz mentioned, I wouldn't have a problem with this kind of copying even if illegal, if they simply attributed the work. It's one thing to be inspired by and use elements of another idea that you publicly acknowledge and another thing to pass it off as your own.

2009-09-02, 10:59	Link #19
LynnieS Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: China	Very lazy of the Chinese animators - assuming that they were Chinese and not from another country getting outsource jobs - for doing this. OTOH, very interesting if they, through this, manage to subliminally attract people's attention using similar backgrounds and characters. __________________ "If ignorance is bliss, then why aren't more people happy?" -- Misc. Currently listening: Nadda Currently reading: Procrastination for the win! Currently playing: "Quest of D", "Border Break" and "Gundam Senjou no Kizuna". Waiting for: "Shining Force Cross"!

2009-09-02, 11:28	Link #20
space cowboy cowboy of space Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: leicester england Age: 36	I saw this earlier today, it kinda takes the piss a bit. I agree with LynnieS this is very lazy work.