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Old 2016-04-22, 12:33   Link #10941
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They used every tiny detail as proof the manga would have a different ending and even claimed the author was mocking the anime with some parts.
And this is exactly what happened with Mine who is still alive and Kurome who didn't die in her fated battle.

Not to mention the Path of Peace, that never played a significant role in the anime, and we all know they are bound to make their move sooner than late. Tatsumi being slowly consumed by Tyrant is also another major difference to note, to a point he already can hear Tyrant's voice echoing through.

So far in this new chapter the only thing that matches the anime is just a design.
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Old 2016-04-22, 14:29   Link #10942
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And this is exactly what happened with Mine who is still alive and Kurome who didn't die in her fated battle.

Not to mention the Path of Peace, that never played a significant role in the anime, and we all know they are bound to make their move sooner than late. Tatsumi being slowly consumed by Tyrant is also another major difference to note, to a point he already can hear Tyrant's voice echoing through.

So far in this new chapter the only thing that matches the anime is just a design.
Except you forgot that the manga had the Akame vs Kurome and the change was the ending and how the fight went (but Kurome is still gone after it ended, just in a different method), they had Mine fall into a coma while killing Budou (she left just once again in a different method), the difference was she died in the anime, and the final battle has the big bad robot.

The overall story is basically the same, the change is how the author is going about it.
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Old 2016-04-22, 14:32   Link #10943
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Just the fact those two are still alive already changes a lot. Have you forgotten about the prophecy? This is another important plot point the adaptation didn't even bother to touch upon.

You are also forgetting Tatsumi evolved Incursio not long ago. That also counts. And we have seen through many chapters how is affecting him, and that the more he uses it the worse it gets. There are already too many deviations for the conclusion of this story to be even remotely close to what we had seen in the adaptation.
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Old 2016-04-22, 14:37   Link #10944
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Just the fact those two are still alive already changes a lot. Have you forgotten about the prophecy? This is another important plot point the adaptation didn't even bother to touch.

You are also forgetting Tatsumi evolved Incursio not long ago. That also counts.
Incursio evolved in the anime during the final battle, its appearance, abilities, and the time it evolved were the only changes.

Mine is in a coma and has no sign that she will wake up so she won't be involved in any fighting and Kurome has one foot in the grave and her sword was destroyed, even though they are alive they can't fight or really do much and are alive by the skin of their teeth.
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Old 2016-04-22, 14:54   Link #10945
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My points still stands. Also, you couldn't be more wrong about Mine, as the prophecy also involves her. And judging by what the Founder of the Path of Peace muttered, I'm starting to lean towards Mine finishing off an awakened Tyrant.
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Old 2016-04-22, 16:14   Link #10946
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Incursio evolved in the anime during the final battle, its appearance, abilities, and the time it evolved were the only changes.

Mine is in a coma and has no sign that she will wake up so she won't be involved in any fighting and Kurome has one foot in the grave and her sword was destroyed, even though they are alive they can't fight or really do much and are alive by the skin of their teeth.
The anime lacked the build up and foreshadowing of the evolution.

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Except you forgot that the manga had the Akame vs Kurome and the change was the ending and how the fight went (but Kurome is still gone after it ended, just in a different method), they had Mine fall into a coma while killing Budou (she left just once again in a different method), the difference was she died in the anime, and the final battle has the big bad robot.

The overall story is basically the same, the change is how the author is going about it.
Akame got her much needed screen time and Run/Wave actually mattered. So those are some big differences. Also Akame's Trump Card is likely to get a real explanation here rather than just happening.
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Old 2016-04-22, 18:07   Link #10947
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^ Gee, this circular debate again? You guys really like doing this, are you? Well, ya'll can knock yourself out while I'm just gonna enjoy reading Shiko wreaking havoc in the manga .
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Old 2016-04-22, 19:00   Link #10948
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You do seem to like the Imperial Teigu a lot, do you.
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Old 2016-04-22, 19:15   Link #10949
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You do seem to like the Imperial Teigu a lot, do you.
In essence, I partially like it. But on a meta level, I like it more. So what?
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Old 2016-04-22, 20:03   Link #10950
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My points still stands. Also, you couldn't be more wrong about Mine, as the prophecy also involves her. And judging by what the Founder of the Path of Peace muttered, I'm starting to lean towards Mine finishing off an awakened Tyrant.
All of that is purely theoretical so it doesn't change anything so its not relevant to the debate.

The prophecy only got mentioned once and for all we know her being in the coma could be what the prophecy was referring to (that and Tatsumi's final fate), unless you can prove otherwise and theories are not proof.

Speaking of theories how exactly would she finish it off if she did wake up? Even if she wakes up she will be greatly weakened from laying down with little brain activity for a extended period of time, not to mention that her weapon was destroyed, she would be useless if she did wake up.

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The anime lacked the build up and foreshadowing of the evolution.



Akame got her much needed screen time and Run/Wave actually mattered. So those are some big differences. Also Akame's Trump Card is likely to get a real explanation here rather than just happening.
Yeah but it still happened, like I said its the same general direction just with more details and a few alterations.

In both versions Incursio evolved, Budou was killed by Mine and she was pretty much removed from the story as a result of the fight, Akame and Kurome fought and in both versions Kurome left unable to fight any further and Wave left Esdeath's service, and during the final battle a giant robot is the ultimate Teigu.

I am not as interested in the story as I used to be and thought the anime was average, but I find it interesting how the author managed to keep the same basic story while changing it enough to keep us on our toes.

Its impressive writing.

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Old 2016-04-23, 01:19   Link #10951
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HUUUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA……

Now I’d like to see those manga-(blind)-worshippers on Youtube and many forums eat their words or being in denial. Previously, when the anime showed Shikotazer, they cried, yelled, shouted like lunatics screaming what amounts to “I DON’T WANT GIANT ROBOT IN AKAME GA KILL!!! F*** WHITE FOX!!! THE MANGA WILL NEVER DO THISSS!!!!!!" while carrying metaphorical torches & pitchforks, and some even threw death threats to the studio.

Now I bet many of those very same people are eating their words and crying in a corner . And the others turned 90 to 180 saying they can tolerate it to liking it just because it’s now written & drawn in the manga (what a bunch blind hypocrites). And the remaining ones are still raging & hating it. At least those who are still hating it are being consistent, if nothing else .

That aside, let me directly address the chapter now: Is it really important whether the emperor is inside Shikotazer or not? If anything, the manga has create a big weakness for Shikotazer now. Since the emperor is remote-controlling it instead of piloting it, all NR has to do is go up there in the chamber/room and somehow immobilize or kill the brat, unlike the anime where there’s no other way to defeat Shiko other than through sheer power that Tatsumi had to justifiably sacrifice himself. If Tatsumi still has to die fighting Shiko in the manga then I’ll be pissed .

Also the difference in designs between manga-Shiko & anime-Shiko is no more than cosmetic. Liking one over the other is like liking Kamen Rider Ichigo’s costume more than Kamen Rider Nigo's, or (if we want to go with a more negative & hateful comparison) liking bull-shit more than dog-shit. In other words, it’s so trivial and nit-picky .
Yep Kudos to you!
However I think I was one of the few who even agreed with you that the manga pretty much follows the anime despite a few small turn of events.
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Old 2016-04-26, 11:49   Link #10952
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Chapter 28 of Zero gives us a new character.
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Old 2016-04-27, 06:57   Link #10953
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Chapter 28 of Zero gives us a new character.
Yeah, I saw it.

Spoiler for Ch 28 zero:
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Old 2016-05-01, 08:11   Link #10954
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Looks like 70 is out. This chapter was good. It reminds me despite everything that happened Tatsumi is still very very young, naive and foolish.
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Old 2016-05-01, 09:27   Link #10955
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Well nothing new in reveals but I still liked the chapter. The bit about poison gas after Akame's fight seems odd but eh whatever. Shikotazer's fleshy eye in the chest is probably going to play into extending its fight in the manga. (Case of the shell is finally broken but something nastier was inside.)
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Old 2016-05-01, 10:06   Link #10956
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Shikotazer's fleshy eye in the chest is probably going to play into extending its fight in the manga. (Case of the shell is finally broken but something nastier was inside.)
I'd like that. And I like the idea that Shiko will fight longer in the manga coz it's not limited by duration. And it (probably) will have more attacks and forms. I mean, if you're gonna have a giant robot, you should go all out with it .

On the other hand, Akame's fight with that random birdman teigu-user is a bit boring. He's such a throwaway character in such a climactic chapter that should pit characters that's already established (but with Jaeger's gone, what can you do?). Even the birdman's teigu is not that well-defined. What does it really do? Setting up traps? Do you really need a teigu for that? Sounds half-ass to me for a character that consumed that many pages. Gimme Zank anytime over that guy.
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Old 2016-05-01, 10:26   Link #10957
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On the other hand, Akame's fight with that random birdman teigu-user is a bit boring. He's such a throwaway character in such a climactic chapter that should pit characters that's already established (but with Jaeger's gone, what can you do?). Even the birdman's teigu is not that well-defined. What does it really do? Setting up traps? Do you really need a teigu for that? Sounds half-ass to me for a character that consumed that many pages. Gimme Zank anytime over that guy.
Quite possibly the very first time that I can agree with you. Seriously, what was the point of him? Another fodder for Akame's kill list just because of what? Chemical clean way of wasting time, just as the presence of those four lolsoevil guys.
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Old 2016-05-01, 10:36   Link #10958
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Quite possibly the very first time that I can agree with you. Seriously, what was the point of him? Another fodder for Akame's kill list just because of what? Chemical clean way of wasting time, just as the presence of those four lolsoevil guys.
I'm quite sure you have agreed with me once before in the past about Mahapadma being an asspull to a certain degree .
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Old 2016-05-01, 10:37   Link #10959
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I'm quite sure you have agreed with me once before in the past about Mahapadma being an asspull to a certain degree .
You got a point here. :3
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Old 2016-05-01, 13:32   Link #10960
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Chapter 70:
Hmm so we are getting the "Gundam" teigu after all....

I really hope Akame's next fight won't be a jobber.
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