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2011-03-02, 13:00 | Link #782 | |
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If it were me i knew that Borcuse was leading the army. I would immediately start to rethink my plans and deployments. Athens has already shown they can cover ground and move forces very fast. A small scouting force could have picked up that Athens had moved pass the fortress. I do see what you are saying now and it does make sense. It just seems that their intelligence gathering and recon are pretty terrible especially in desert kingdom where tracking is important because of the mountains
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2011-03-02, 13:08 | Link #783 | ||
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2011-03-02, 14:14 | Link #785 | ||
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Yeah i dont know what the hell that was about it. Its standard in like every military since the beginning of time. You do not give up the high ground you hold your position and make the enemy attack you and make them pay dearly for every step they take. Why did Baldr not call sharpshooters to be deployed and weaken the enemy from long range first before charging. That what you do in the high ground they dont have artillery to rain down on them but they were is such a sweet spot to start picking off Athens units it wasent even funny. Any good commander would have been licking his lips with the ground Baldr had it was perfect. He had ground advantage, clear line of retreat if things went bad and he could have held out till Rygart the rest of the reinforcements arrived. That alone could have turned the tide of battle.
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2011-03-02, 15:08 | Link #786 |
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They all knew it was a trap, and when the enemy sets you up, you don't go right in his house. However, like Borcuse kept saying, Baldr's tactics are good but they're by-the-book to a fault, so maybe Baldr was trying to be unpredictable? Thats the only reason to send your second-in-command straight into a trap.
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2011-03-02, 15:38 | Link #787 | |
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I guess the question we could ask is. Was is it too much of gamble? In my opinion yes it was. No matter what era you live in if its a ground war position on the ground take precedent. A small unit can hold out against a much stronger force if they have good ground. Having the high ground is as good as it gets and in this situation i can point another advantage Baldr had. If you go back and look at the heights Baldr occupied there were several natural advantages. 1.Natural sniping spot 2.The hill was steep when the 20 units drop down to attack they slid down because of how steep it was. Now imagine the Athens units trying to attack in force up such steep ground. From what i saw there were no Artimis units there (they could have cleared them easily with their mobility but not with out taking long rage fire) 3.The area where the Athens troops would have had to assault was not big enough for a large group to attack in force. They would have been on top of each other trying to get up. Therefore rending their number advantage squat. Think of where Girghe attacked in a narrow canyon where they could not fully deploy and he inflicted heavy damage on Borucse own personal guard. 4. This is the most important from the position i saw them take up it was impossible for Baldr's units to be flanked nor attacked from behind. Which means they have held for days depending on supplies. Also with no way for the enemy to get behind them their retreat route would have remained opened. I say this is the most important because Baldr could have sent a messenger stating he needed reinforcements. Tired or damaged units could have been pulled off the line replaced with fresh units. Bolstering his forces while holding Athens at bay and the retreat option was still there, just encase the main Athens force arrived. Worst case scenario is there is stalemate. From what i can tell from how the Athens forces are trained getting into a war of attrition with them is a bad idea these guys excel at this kind overwhelming and psychological warfare. Weaken their forces while holding and force them to pull back. I bet if Baldr would have done this Athens would have pulled back why? Because Borcuse would have become bored and he did have a mission objective he did not have infinite time to waste on that battle. Plus when Rygart showed up it would have thrown him off and he would still retreated. I know im over-thinking it but it was as clear as day to me.
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2011-03-02, 17:37 | Link #788 | |
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2011-03-02, 20:17 | Link #791 |
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Which other kingdom has their queen running around with V split robe showing (hopefully nothing) underneath as...her uniform?
Tactics in BB is fairly basic/random so don't let it distract you from the plot developments. Oh and the series should be 'fantasy' rather than 'science fiction', just because it has giant robots when they are actually powered by mysterious quartz magic... |
2011-03-02, 20:51 | Link #792 | |
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If it was me I would've just sent in more golems and do a divide and conquer, wiping out the separated athenian forces. |
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2011-03-03, 01:02 | Link #793 | |
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Also, I manage to watch the 4th picture drama. It was a very amusing thing to see. Spoiler for 4th picture drama:
I also manage to find out what Sigyn type merchandise finally was. Spoiler for NSFW Sigyn sports towel:
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2011-03-03, 01:31 | Link #795 | ||
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What I suggested was to send in the whole troop and then split into an "M" shape with one group taking on the left and the other taking on the right while leaving a rear guard to hold off Borcuse whose pretty much just standing there. With Rygart and the others coming they could've easily have decimated both sides. |
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2011-03-03, 01:53 | Link #796 |
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^ I pretty much agree with what Baldr's actions being foolhardy, but the general took a chance in trying to end the invasion early by taking out the head. In truth, better tactics could have been utilized with time, but Baldr was baited successfully by Borcus and the chance to take the head was the option that was taken. Even though Baldr warned Ersa to fall back if the situation were to go awray, that action costed the life of the second in command and gave Borcus a tool to work with in his psychological warfare.
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2011-03-03, 07:48 | Link #798 |
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Well a wise man did say "The first way to avoid a trap is learning of its existence" Baldr knew he still attacked it was gamble and a bad one and loss many men and units. Yes people have a point he wanted to try to end the invasion early. But you do not make fool hearty decisions against a General an like Borcus he will make you pay dearly for it. I would have even supported small skirmishes in order to by time for Rygart and co to arrive as back up. The fact remains Borcus had Baldr figured out baited him and nearly took the day but not without take both size taking heavy damage but thats only because Rygart showed up when he did.
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2011-03-03, 11:25 | Link #799 |
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On that moment Borcuse's golem is left wide open guarded only with 5 golems. Baldr knew it was a trap and Borcuse was basically the bait. Number wise he's sending 21 golems against a mere 6. Imo Baldr was thinking rationally where he thought 21 could simply wipe the floor of 6 golems, especially when Elsa's leading them. To Baldr and Elsa's surprise, those 6 basically pwned the 21 thrown at them really hard. This is where I think while Baldr thought he had numerical superiority, he failed to asses the huge piloting skills gap between the 6 and 21.
To put it simple Baldr made a gamble relying on superior numbers, and he lost. Borcuse’s aim is to demoralize Krisna’s troops, and nothing does it better than seeing a small squad of 6 golems obliterating a sheer number of 21. This intention was made clear when Elsa realizing that the enemies from the left and right flank didn’t attack when her squad running straight to Borcuse and neither Elsa or Baldr could even realize it. Imo Borcuse also made a gamble with relying on 6 elite against 21, and basically won. |
2011-03-03, 16:01 | Link #800 |
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Boldr should have known it was not that simple because he knew who his opponent was. If Borcuse was some no-name new hot shot, than I'd consider it... but they should have known better.
And the deaths were pretty gruesome here. I am glad this wasn't a TV series. If it was, I would have gotten attached to the characters more, and it would have made them dying all that more worse. But a TV series would mean more Sigyn... I wish it was a TV series.
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