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View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi (2009) - Episode 04 Rating
Perfect 10 43 14.88%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 12 4.15%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 25 8.65%
7 out of 10 : Good 42 14.53%
6 out of 10 : Average 26 9.00%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 13 4.50%
4 out of 10 : Poor 19 6.57%
3 out of 10 : Bad 16 5.54%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 8 2.77%
1 out of 10 : Painful 85 29.41%
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Old 2009-07-06, 01:17   Link #441
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Hm. I never thought of Yuki as a major reason for Haruhi's success, it was more of a personal reason, than a popular one.

But guess what? I'll add it.
Hmm, I wouldn't doubt her resemblance to Rei Ayanami from Evangelion would help her popularity a lot.
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Old 2009-07-06, 01:17   Link #442
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So who thinks this will be resolved in the next episode...

*cricket cricket cricket*
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Old 2009-07-06, 01:18   Link #443
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this must be the most cleverly evil way of creating filler content of all time! why hasnt yuki thrown Haruhi off a building yet! the only hope i can think of is that only the earth is looping and that the Martians have already evolved out of nothing and are just discovering a feesable means of space travel to fly to earth for the sole purpose of killing Haruhi or making that jackass Kyon ask for help with his god damn homework!
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Old 2009-07-06, 01:26   Link #444
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I just watched the A.F.K version of this ep, and I have to say the shock and despair, and anger isn't as high on subsequent views, though I did notice this time the girls have the K-on legs thing going a bit. They could really milk this and either parody the styles of other animes, or have those artists work on the episode, the Bleach crew doing an episode, or even more fitting the Higorashi people, for an example,
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Old 2009-07-06, 01:28   Link #445
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Hmm, I wouldn't doubt her resemblance to Rei Ayanami from Evangelion would help her popularity a lot.
Yep, I think that's the LARGEST success point of Haruhi, if you asked me. It attracted a lot of Evangelion fans, to tell the truth, so that is quite sneaky. But it worked. And that's all there is to me.
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Old 2009-07-06, 01:40   Link #446
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I consider the multiple episodes of this arc KyoAni's Art director/Art Department Team test episode. Give each group and director a go at it. Change some of the situations and dialogue per episode to keep it alive, and see what they give us. Use results to plan who gets what episodes in the future.

Or this is what the various groups did during their off time while working on the various other series produced by KyoAni since Haruhi 2006. (Kanon, Lucky Star, Clannad, Lucky Star OVA, Clannad After Story, Munto TV, Munto movie, K-On, Haruhi-chan, Nyoro~n).

Lets see which group makes next weeks episode. With it be the Clannad group?
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Old 2009-07-06, 02:05   Link #447
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I consider the multiple episodes of this arc KyoAni's Art director/Art Department Team test episode. Give each group and director a go at it. Change some of the situations and dialogue per episode to keep it alive, and see what they give us. Use results to plan who gets what episodes in the future.

Or this is what the various groups did during their off time while working on the various other series produced by KyoAni since Haruhi 2006. (Kanon, Lucky Star, Clannad, Lucky Star OVA, Clannad After Story, Munto TV, Munto movie, K-On, Haruhi-chan, Nyoro~n).

Lets see which group makes next weeks episode. With it be the Clannad group?
What? Really? It was done on a rotational basis? I never paid attention to the credits...
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Old 2009-07-06, 02:28   Link #448
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Lets see which group makes next weeks episode. With it be the Clannad group?
Damn, we still have the Clannad team.

Looks like I ought to be prepared for at least another closed loop.
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Old 2009-07-06, 02:29   Link #449
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Damn, we still have the Clannad team.

Looks like I ought to be prepared for at least another closed loop.
True. Oh well...
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Old 2009-07-06, 02:39   Link #450
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I consider the multiple episodes of this arc KyoAni's Art director/Art Department Team test episode. Give each group and director a go at it. Change some of the situations and dialogue per episode to keep it alive, and see what they give us. Use results to plan who gets what episodes in the future.

Or this is what the various groups did during their off time while working on the various other series produced by KyoAni since Haruhi 2006. (Kanon, Lucky Star, Clannad, Lucky Star OVA, Clannad After Story, Munto TV, Munto movie, K-On, Haruhi-chan, Nyoro~n).

Lets see which group makes next weeks episode. With it be the Clannad group?
Something like this is what I've been suggesting that KyoAni is doing with E8. This is why all three E8 episodes so far have had different art styles (#1 - current Haruhi a la BLR, #2 - vintage Haruhi with gorgeously overrendered animation, #3 - crappy K-on! style) and is also why the second two have the same writer (same exact story, give or take a directorial decision). When we get a different writer, that might signal the end of the arc.

Speaking of signals of the end of the arc, a few things I noticed haven't made it into the episodes yet that might signal the final run-through, as described in the novel:
Spoiler for duh:
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Old 2009-07-06, 02:53   Link #451
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A genuine woobie is Yuki Nagato, actually. Starting at and especially in The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya.
She seems to be starting "early" in Endless Eight.
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Old 2009-07-06, 03:01   Link #452
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I just watched the episode ( a bit late maybe..) and as many have posted before me.. all I have to say is.. nice troll kyoani, nice troll
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if this is kyoani trying to make us, the viewers understand how yuki must feel about this, then i'd say they are doing a hell of a good job
but i just dont get it
why isnt kyon or any of the others just ask yuki to take them aside during the next reboot and "remind" them that they are reliving the same two weeks
rather then just have them start over and having to figure it out (wasting time)
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if this is kyoani trying to make us, the viewers understand how yuki must feel about this, then i'd say they are doing a hell of a good job
but i just dont get it
why isnt kyon or any of the others just ask yuki to take them aside during the next reboot and "remind" them that they are reliving the same two weeks
rather then just have them start over and having to figure it out (wasting time)
apparently because its her job to just 'observe', and not interact ( says so in the last episode). However, I still think that

Spoiler for hint:
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I consider the multiple episodes of this arc KyoAni's Art director/Art Department Team test episode. Give each group and director a go at it. Change some of the situations and dialogue per episode to keep it alive, and see what they give us. Use results to plan who gets what episodes in the future.

Or this is what the various groups did during their off time while working on the various other series produced by KyoAni since Haruhi 2006. (Kanon, Lucky Star, Clannad, Lucky Star OVA, Clannad After Story, Munto TV, Munto movie, K-On, Haruhi-chan, Nyoro~n).

Lets see which group makes next weeks episode. With it be the Clannad group?
I think the K-ON group already done their part on Ep 3......Moe loaded. But with Yuki around, which episode isn't moe loaded?
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even IF she's "just there to observe
if kyon ASKS her to, i' expect she'll do it

about the mask bit, i also think there is something there (didnt read the books)
but i cant figure it out yet (please dont tell me)
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Damn, we still have the Clannad team.

Looks like I ought to be prepared for at least another closed loop.
I'm quite oblivious to these things.

So are you kidding or do you actually think they might have another unresolved Endless Eight? Because I would FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUU!!!!!!!!!!
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even IF she's "just there to observe
if kyon ASKS her to, i' expect she'll do it

about the mask bit, i also think there is something there (didnt read the books)
but i cant figure it out yet (please dont tell me)
How about Kyon asked Yuki did so for like 10 times during the past 15000, but he still failed to break the loop, so he end up just leave his "future" self do the job naturally?
If he really experience 15k times like Yuki did (or 3 like us) then he will really want to break the loop even when have to try the "I love you" option.


But he has only experienced it once, so it's like "meh, who care. It was pretty fun. It's too much bother for me to break it now, let's do this loop one more time"
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Old 2009-07-06, 06:53   Link #459
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I consider the multiple episodes of this arc KyoAni's Art director/Art Department Team test episode. Give each group and director a go at it. Change some of the situations and dialogue per episode to keep it alive, and see what they give us. Use results to plan who gets what episodes in the future.

Or this is what the various groups did during their off time while working on the various other series produced by KyoAni since Haruhi 2006. (Kanon, Lucky Star, Clannad, Lucky Star OVA, Clannad After Story, Munto TV, Munto movie, K-On, Haruhi-chan, Nyoro~n).

Lets see which group makes next weeks episode. With it be the Clannad group?
You raise a very interesting point. Kyoto animation uses multiple animation teams.

However these teams are not linked to series. They are shifts that do particular episodes. From the credits: during Clannad AS Kyoani had like animation teams (key animators) on a 5 to 6 episode rotation, on K-on they ran with a 3 episode rotation. These rotations are rough aproximations as staff seems to switch easily between teams during projects. Seeing that most teams have worked on the major projects like Kanon and Clannad, every team should be able to use the various styles.

What baffles me is that they used 3 different styles during endless 8. Which makes no sense at all given that every team should be able to do the cartoony 4-koma (k-on/lucky star style) or the luxurious (key) style. Afaik Kyoni has never experimented with styles during a season. So this inconsistency makes no sense to me at all.
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If it makes no sense, it must be Haruhi.
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