Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ViVid Manga Discussion

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Sansker

And what if you are wrong? All along I have just heard I should change my mind because you guys think different and that is not how this works. Calling the other reasons wrong when some come out interpretation doesn’t really add up. I already say for example why the drama and the reasons of the characters seem weak and not well executed. But you never touch on that and just went with this thing about Ein and Sie which was just an example to illustrated how many things that happen don’t really add up all things consider.

The problem here is, your reasoning is just plain fallacious.

[Archon_Wing]

Originally Posted by Nanya01

Sansker, lemme put it to you this way.

Yours, Aki and Archon's view of Nanoha (post-A's) is as bad as my view on Naruto.

And, trust me, if I got going with Naruto, I don't shut up about it.

Rising Dragon can vouch for me, he's heard me go into rants about that series SEVERAL times now.

Sansker, you can say "I don't like Nanoha, I think it's poorly done" and there's not much we can say about that. That's subjective.

But when you try to explain why you feel that way subjectively with objective stuff, that's when you're going to get hammered.

Lol, stop being so dramatic. While I am flattered to have my presence mentioned in a conversation that hardly involves me, I hardly see why my view is any less than yours or Sansker's.

For one, I've been critical of every season of Nanoha--I've said some mean stuff about season 1 that by and far exceeds what I've said about StrikerS and beyond. But I like season 1 all the fine, and actually think higher of it now after you guys poked at what the movie lacked. Though, Nanoha A's is just seriously harder to poke holes in. It's that good, and that's why I'm even here in the first place.

Secondly, I haven't posted in this thread at all til now. That's right, I may take jabs at the mangas, but I am also not shoving my opinion down people's throats or posting about how lame Signum is. (Sorry, Aki). You guys don't like it, and I realize that.

Third, if you were to go on a rant about Naruto in an appropriate thread, I wouldn't mind at all. It's how you feel, after all. And that's the thing. Opinions are subjective, but people's feelings are actually real and true.

And, I've many good things to say about StrikerS too, as my overall impressions post would suggest. Though yes, it often gets overshadowed and I don't think it's very good. But there's worse.

[bhl88]

Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

Lol, stop being so dramatic.

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And, I've many good things to say about StrikerS too. Though yes, it often gets overshadowed and I don't think it's very good. But there's worse.

^ that's subjective XD

My still subjective opinion: Strikers < Nanoha A's

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Sansker

All that is nice and good but you forget something. The stories are not about them at all. Their actions are not helping such goals and some of them are not even hinted slightly. We could make this about Vivio trying to make her mom proud, and by the way she says she wants power to protect those she loves. She mentions this in her second fight with Einhart. But we never focus any of this objectives and how this tournament is helping them develop. You see, we can’t just learn a character motivation two pages before we see the emotional outcome of such struggle.

.... Yes it is? Seriously, all that stuff you're whining about that isn't there? It's there. You just refuse to acknowledge it's there to try and make a point.

Originally Posted by Sansker

Bleach is another thing. They didn't take 3 years to just get started.

One year. And that's because it's weekly. People always ignore this tiny detail. Turn bleach into a monthly manga and it'd have taken them slightly over 4 years. Just to introduce 6 important characters. That's even less than what Vivid did.

Originally Posted by Sansker

This is bad because is bad done not because they lack power. If they don’t have anything special in their stories, characters and power then is bad. But the first two will make the last one pointless. But this is about fighting so yes, they are not as good as the rest.

Really? Because all that particular claim seems to amount to is "everything is pointless because Nanoha is stronger!"

That's not about quality, that's simply a complaint about them not being as strong.

Originally Posted by Sansker

No I didn’t. They encounter, fight and connect because of their past. All happens as it happen in the manga. It didn’t happen in the same place, they might lost the crowd and… how that affects the encounter in any significant way? You are missing the point by looking at details that doesn’t really hold any value and take them as key essential moments of the plot.

Right, so if I switch Nanoha with Suzuka in S1, nothing changes?

This is Graham all over again. It changed, Sansk. Trying to claim it doesn't won't change that you changed a lot to make this encounter happen.

[Daniel E.]

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Do make an effort to stop arguing if it seems you are going in circles guys.

[Keroko]

New Vivid chapter's out, and hot-damn Rio's still my favorite character in Vivid. Who needs fancy revolutionary gollem techniques when you can just smack your opponent with the damn fighting ring?

[Nanya01]

Originally Posted by Keroko

New Vivid chapter's out, and hot-damn Rio's still my favorite character in Vivid. Who needs fancy revolutionary gollem techniques when you can just smack your opponent with the damn fighting ring?

Because Rocket Punch

[00-Raiser]

I had to resist making a lame "mop you with the floor" joke

[Justin_Brett]

Originally Posted by Nanya01

Because Rocket Punch

She and Rio need to tag team against someone so Rio can smack them with Goliath's severed arm.

[Rising Dragon]

Why stop there? Have Corona create Goliath and then have Rio smack the enemy with Goliath itself.

[Skane]

Could Corona make a Goliath-suit for Rio?

Hmm...

[Sansker]

I don't thinl Rio really needs a suit.

Besides her best technique so far has been throwing a rock at her oponnent.

[Justin_Brett]

And the buzz was killed.

[Keroko]

Well, he's right. But then that "rock" happens to be half the frigging fighting ring, so 's all good.

[Rising Dragon]

That look of "Oh shit" on Harri's face was priceless.

[Sansker]

I just find odd she feel the need to put a name in such move. She was just throwing a rock, a very big one, but is not like you are making a complicated movement right there.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Sansker

I just find odd she feel the need to put a name in such move. She was just throwing a rock, a very big one, but is not like you are making a complicated movement right there.

What? Rio didn't name that arena lift anything.

[Keroko]

Lightning Cord is the name of the bind.

[Sansker]

In the spanish tranlation it seems she actually did name it.

[Keroko]

How did they translate it?