(CR) Hunter X Hunter Anime (2011)

[SHINOBI-03]

-EPISODE 147-

Spoiler for part 1:

Manga: Chapter 337, first third of 338

Spoiler for Worst chapter ever:

Remember last time when I said we’re gonna have fun? Well, it’s because of this… chapter 337, it’s the worst chapter ever!

In artwork anyway…

If you are a scanlation follower then you’ve probably been familiar with badly made chapters. Little did people know, but these “terrible looking” chapters were redrawn later on for the collected releases. One exception was chapter (Hisoka vs Kastro) where it was the rough sketched version and not the finalized one. That one still looked okay, but chapter 337 the worst offender. As you know, volume 32 which contains this chapter was released during Togashi’s two-year hiatus. As one who had believed in the idea of him taking his time writing his ideas and redrawing the unfinished chapters, this came as a harsh blow. Either he was really sick, or he had a better reason to leave this chapter in its half@SSed quality and not going back to finish it up.

I don’t think there’s a need for comparison here because obviously the anime wins. You can take one look at it and tell the anime looks much better than this. So on to the plot…

This shot of the corridor does not appear. I wanted to to see the artworks


Hey, the Koala is back and here’s his backstory. Because it may come back in effect later on.


The rocket got replaced with the spiral stairs



The execution scene got replaced with this shot of the arm



The graveyard got replaced with a floating body



The decayed land got replaced with a look back at Koala's life cycle.



This looks bloody cool


Kite’s new voice is… good. Sounds fitting to his current body.

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Spoiler for part 2:

Spoiler for The other reunion:

New Kite switches his pronouns depending on who he's talking to. With Koala he used "Atachi" (アタチ) the same way he talked when he declared his real name is not Rena. But with Gon he uses the muscular pronoun "Ore" (俺). I guess he uses the feminine pronoun only with Koala to remind him of the girl he killed while uses the male pronoun for everything else the way he used to talk in his first life.


Kite’s team sure is having fun (And don’t you think it’s funny to have two Koalas associated with him?!)



I guess that’s why Ging didn’t sound that surprised when Gon told him he turned to a girl.

And looks like Colt is staying as well. Makes me feel sad he’s not aware about his real sister.

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Spoiler for Back to Ging:

Old habits don’t die that easily…!

World Tree



So sweet. In the anime a photographer took their picture but in the manga they took it themselves.




I guess this is how the narrator feels like when nobody pays attention to him…!

Killua is going his own way now, and it makes me sad.




At least he reminds us he never forgets these issues.


Wait, you’ve been together all this time, and NOW you tell him Alluka was the one who healed him? And Gon didn’t even bother asking?


Geez Gon you’re acting like a baby!

Goodbye pal, and let’s meet up soon.


And instead of the usual ending credits we get a recap show of all the good times between those two along with Reason.

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I don’t think there’s need to say which one is better. Of course the anime is miles better than what the manga had. Maybe it would’ve been different if the chapter was redone like every other chapter out there, but the way it is just gives a good reason to rank this episode high. Not to mention the first part between Koala and Kite? Yeah, that was deep too. It may get better if it ends up adding to something in the future but it’s still good on its own even if it felt shoehorned a bit.

9/10

Only one episode left guys.

One more left…

One… more…

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Sabinswe

Sorry if I missed this some quick questions I hope you can answer:

1. Next week is that the last episode ever?

2. If no any idea when it will continue, since I heard the manga is back on.

1. Yes.

2. Nobody in the world knows. The manga is back on indefinite hiatus already. The current arc looks to be a very long one so I wouldn't expect the anime to come back within the next ten years unless Togashi makes a miraculous recovery.

[kakakka]

Originally Posted by Amarantine

I (as well as many manga readers) always found it questionable how Togashi chose to have Gon's reunion and real apology to Killua take place off-screen. In a way the whole of the Chimera Ant arc built up to this strain in their relationship, so it felt somewhat wasteful and anti-climatic not to actually see the resolution to that.

Although I suppose that might be because he didn't want their friendship to go back to normal just yet and has other plans for the future. The look on their faces as Gon and Killua parted ways feels to me like it implies more than just sadness about being separated from now on. I see something akin to regret there as well, as if they both know that what happened between them in the Chimera Ant arc (specifically during the confrontation with Pitou, of course) isn't completely water under the bridge just yet, and maybe there's a truer, more complete reconciliation between that's yet to come.

Or maybe I'm just hoping that's the case, because I would like to have had more than what we got here as well. Either way, we might never find out, considering the state of the manga's serialization right now.

I actually think the strain in their relationship hasn't eased up yet. I always think their farewell is too forced and their conversation in that scene too awkward to say their apology off-screen worked to resolve anything.

[ookamigirl]

Koala ant side story.
It was pretty interesting though.
Still, it was pretty much all about existentialism.
Kite is a girl now? Well, that was a surprise.
Gon-Kite heart-to-heart was nice.
Poor Gon just can't seem to catch his dad twice in the same place..
It was really sweet to see Killua, Alluka & Gon traveling together.
Gon met Something for the first time.
Still, it's sad they had to go their separate ways...
That was clearly something they didn't want to do.

[SHINOBI-03]

Originally Posted by ookamigirl

Kite is a girl now? Well, that was a surprise.

Someone wasn't paying attention watching episode 136

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by revive4563

It was translator's subjective subtitle . In fact, he wasn't saying "her".

But he did call her "imouto" which means "little sister." And a "sister" is a "she" so the translator's choice of personal pronoun isn't really subjective.

Note that I'm not arguing over her gender or anything. I'm merely explaining why the translator chose to do things this way.

[Suryce]

I see people being surprised at Kite's treatment of the Koala, and I was surprised too at first, but looking back on it, I don't see how there is any inconsistency in Kite's personality. Same dude who punched a little kid because of a mistake that forced the killing of an animal. Also same dude who then took upon himself and his hatred of ending life when he had to battle against the Chimera Ants. Kite is just, but he is also very harsh and has always been, with himself and with everybody around him (we even see this harshness being reflected in one of his subordinates with the bubble gum lady, who said she would have smacked Gon too if he hadn't stop moping after his defeat against Knuckles). If by contrast, Kite is going easy on Gon this time, it's because he doesn't think Gon has anything to apologize for to him. But if Kite thinks he has to be harsh on the Koala to get him going in the right direction, you can be sure he will be.

As for the way Gon and Killua's scene goes, it felt right immediately to me: it is thematically coherent and a good conclusion if you look at the episode as a whole and pay attention to the death and rebirth symbolism beyond the Koala's scene. In a way, Gon also went through his own death and rebirth. And now that he is reborn, he gets to have his relationships with others go back to square one, yet he is still responsible for the sins of his "previous life" and has a duty of doing things differently this time. He gets Kite back, but he promises to train in order to prevent this from happening again (as does Kite, who also went through his death/rebirth scenario. See when I said this episode was a whole?). He gets to joke around with Killua like before, but he has to accept to put some distance between them and let Killua have his own goals and agenda in order to hopefully fix their dysfunctional relationship.

[AnimeFan188]

Hopefully, Kite's accelerated aging will slow down now, otherwise her new life will
be rather brief.

[Sabinswe]

Originally Posted by Kanon

1. Yes.

2. Nobody in the world knows. The manga is back on indefinite hiatus already. The current arc looks to be a very long one so I wouldn't expect the anime to come back within the next ten years unless Togashi makes a miraculous recovery.

1. Too bad since this is the best Animé since Silver Fang IMO

2. Is Togashi really sick? or is it a case of having so much money that you can´t be bothered? Maybe he should let someone else finish the drawing of the Manga and he only provides the story......

[Clarste]

Originally Posted by AnimeFan188

Hopefully, Kite's accelerated aging will slow down now, otherwise her new life will
be rather brief.

Growing and aging are two completely unrelated processes. Just because something grows up fast doesn't mean it will necessarily die sooner.

Originally Posted by Sabinswe

2. Is Togashi really sick? or is it a case of having so much money that you can´t be bothered? Maybe he should let someone else finish the drawing of the Manga and he only provides the story......

No one knows except himself, his wife, and his doctor, but I think it's incredibly rude to doubt him.

That said it's valid to wonder why he wants to do it himself.

[Proto]

During the last hiatus they confirmed that he has recurrent back problems and that he's seeking medical treatment.

[Clarste]

Originally Posted by Proto

During the last hiatus they confirmed that he has recurrent back problems and that he's seeking medical treatment.

...do you really think that kind of thing would stop the people who doubt him? That's kinda what "doubt" means: they don't trust what he says and think he's just lazy. There's even this whole thing about people seeing him out eating dinner with his family at a restaurant, under the logic that clearly if he's not bed-ridden 100% of the time then he has nothing to complain about.

[thundrakkon]

He really has the right to decide if he wants to continue or not. No one has the right to force him to provide a product. If people are upset about him not releasing new chapters, they have the right to not buy or read/watch Hunter X Hunter. Otherwise, people should just appreciate if and when he can produce more work.

[Dengar]

^This, as I repeatedly keep saying: He has absolutely zero obligation to anyone for anything.

[revive4563]

Basically, selfishness of author is favorable for me, in a sense. If author has a right to do anything, their works are interesting.
What if manga becomes a products for money like Hollywood movies? It means manga's death as subculture.
Absolutely I like Eva's last 2 episodes of TV version.
That WAS an author's authority.

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

But he did call her "imouto" which means "little sister." And a "sister" is a "she" so the translator's choice of personal pronoun isn't really subjective.

Note that I'm not arguing over her gender or anything. I'm merely explaining why the translator chose to do things this way.

Well, Killua was trying to treat Alluka as a girl, anyways.
So he calls Alluka as Imouto. That's all.
But yeah, I understand translator's misunderstanding.

Though if Alluka is a girl biologically, his effort is meaningless, anyway.

[FlareKnight]

I feel like the natural progression of "no one has a obligation to anyone for anything" would just lead to the death of society as we know it . Probably a good thing some people presume these kind of things exist or we'd be living in chaos and not worrying about anime...

This version of HunterXHunter had a good run. I wouldn't say I enjoyed every arc, but it had good moments and told some good stories. When it eventually comes back will see if I'll pick it up again then.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by revive4563

But yeah, I understand translator's misunderstanding.

She's referred to as "she" only in Killua's lines. The translator isn't trying to make seem like Alluka is biologically a girl.

[Archon_Wing]

Sometimes the creative spark isn't strong or there's other life issues in one's life that prevents them from continuing. Togashi is of course, still human, and trying to force continuations often ends up ugly. And often ends up like with crap such as Buu. Or if we look back at Togashi's work, the rushed and incomplete mess that was the end of Yu Yu Hakusho-- although there were external factors at work that won't here, but still.

You can't just create something original with the snap of a finger so easily.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I feel like the natural progression of "no one has a obligation to anyone for anything" would just lead to the death of society as we know it . Probably a good thing some people presume these kind of things exist or we'd be living in chaos and not worrying about anime...

Seriously. I don't know about obligation, but he has a responsibility to finish this story for all the people who have been paying for it and following it for years. There should be mutual respect between fans and an artist. Taking breaks whenever you feel like it or abandoning your work is disrespectful to the people who enjoy it.

Now, if he has health issues, there's nothing we can do about it and it would be in very poor taste to complain. However, in the event it were pure laziness, I find it appalling people would so readily forgive that and insult those who complain about it. That's pure fanboy behavior. If readers can't be entitled, then neither can authors. Mangaka are professionals, they do have obligation (perhaps not to us) like every one of us. They can't just work whenever they feel like it. Imagine the result if that were the case, the industry would have died a long time ago. Incidentally, that's the reason I believe he really is sick. No way Shueisha would let him do whatever he wants no matter how much dough he rakes in, it would set up a bad precedent that could lead to disasters.

[Proto]

Mangakas/writers/anything obligation is to their employers. Shueisha is the one who holds his contract and who can terminate his employment if deemed appropiate. As readers/consumers your only voice and right to complain is through your wallet.