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I don't agree this was the most boring outcome though. Imagine we have orichimaru and Sasuke just Ninja walking to get to where they were going ( with a few attempt at comedy here and there) or the Hokage's talking about how strong Madara is ( again). The horror of having had to deal with these scenarios. I guess your worse scenario was the worse " realistic" scenario .
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2012-08-30, 21:32 | Link #263 | |
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Didn't chojiro kill black zetsu though? Or just wound him?
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2012-08-30, 22:12 | Link #264 | |
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the mask man that fought minato was likely obito. i thought about it being a zetsu clone but he would a turned into said clone as we have seen him do after the raikage/bee skirmish with kisame, and during the war. also we have to consider that obito eye was being used during that fight...also he doesn't look all that grown up. that cloak seemed a bit oversized huh?
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2012-08-31, 00:03 | Link #266 |
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So.... Tobi really was Obito all along.
Well, shit. I actually didn't see this coming until I read the previous chapter (598). I am almost afraid we're being trolled again.... >_<
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2012-08-31, 01:14 | Link #267 | ||
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obito is not older than kakashi, he was 13 years old when he died, he was kakashi's age, just like rin. and if you look at the drawings, they look about the same age. did you see kakashi in this current chapter? he's much taller than rin. does he look like a 5-year-old to you? he's about 11 at that time, the same age as rin and obito. obito became chuunin at 11. hey, if it's just a minor lapse or a drawing mistake, i'd forgive it. kishi is human, he's not perfect. but these mistakes actually affect the timeline and give us confusing new info about these characters that doesn't coincide with his earlier info, so i just have to question them. only sheep follow the shepherd without question. if you have a mind of your own, if you're not blinded by your faith in something or someone, you will question everything.
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2012-08-31, 03:23 | Link #269 | |
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as for obito being named after tobi? hmmm... i don't know. other people have jokingly argued in the past that tobi might be tobirama or even sarutobi. tobi is a common name. and tobi is not obito spelled backwards, if you spell obito backwards it's otibo. lol, i wasn't talking about you! judging from your usual posts i know you question things when you feel you've been trolled or you feel it doesn't add up. i was talking about the fanatics. i've met quite a lot of them online and none of them could give me a good argument about anything. all they keep saying is "let's wait for naruto to end before we pass our judgment or comment on the series", or they would simply crucify you for criticizing their favorite manga and manga-ka. like right now, i'd probably get neg reps for this and be tagged as someone who just complains. even when i don't say anything bad about the chapter, they still think i'm complaining! they have so much faith in kishi they don't question at all even when it's obvious that he made mistakes or that there are some inconsistencies in his plot. besides, i was merely responding to someone else's post about fans saying there's no need to defend or question kishi's mistakes.
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2012-08-31, 04:57 | Link #270 |
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yet more questions to be answered...how can tobi survive if he sends a piece of his head to the other dimension while phasing and survive... if he phases his arm to the other dimension is it considered separated from the rest of him or can he move it? if that is the case then why was deidara's arm ripped off? and why was it flung to a different location instead of staying in the other dimension? why hasn't he gone blind from spamming the tech? why do certain uchiha have completely arbitrary special techniques for their eyes such as kamui and shisui's techs? why did kisame have gills? the overall feel of how the story is going makes me think kishi is just gonna ignore answering most of the niggling mysteries.... WHY OBITO!!
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2012-08-31, 06:13 | Link #271 |
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They should still at least show what really happened to Rin since if Obito lives than Kakashi's little death experience can't really be considered accurate.
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2012-08-31, 06:52 | Link #272 | |
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shouldnt he noticed it earlier when he is drawing the mountain? I think it takes 30 secs to draw that mountain.... shouldnt he be notice it by that time? I think Kishimoto has short memory problem, we fans noticed it earlier more than him... im pretty sure he checked his chapter before he publish it. anyways its not a big problem, what important is that when he made the character Obito or TObi, im pretty sure he planned that character to be Obito all along, the scenes: Tobi talks to Sasuke, Tobi vs Konan, Tobi vs Minato Tobi says "I am Madara" were just a plot to make us believe that he isnt Obito Tobi's Debut were pretty obvious he is Obito so that's why he made that plot
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2012-08-31, 07:43 | Link #273 | |
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- the same reason they were anticipating him to come fight the kyuubi...I didn't see Gemma or the elite squad there either - hokage aren't THAT guarded. the second was out in the field with team tobirama and co when he died... 3rd paragraph: I have never seen there ages quoted in the manga...if I have missed these please refer me and I'll concede. 4th paragraph: If its a mistake, it's a mistake. I'm using my own mind which is why we currently disagree. I feel how u feel tho. Mistakes like these hurt the story. I just don't think a mistake was made. That could change though.
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There were ANBU guarding the place where Minato and Kushina were, they were killed by Tobi. The 2nd hokage gave the hokage title to Sarutobi before he went on his suicide mission, he was not hokage any more. |
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2012-08-31, 13:43 | Link #277 | |
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thats that i suppose...
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2012-08-31, 17:11 | Link #278 | |
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2012-08-31, 21:46 | Link #279 |
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I still dont think it really obito, after rewatching the battle with the fourth when tobi got hit on the leftside it was white goo. We know that zetsu can copy someone in every way. I think it is Maybe The first Zetsu ever, when tobi acted like a child that could have been the white part and the more serious is the black. This could have been the one madara made after the battle with the first.
Madara/Izuna could have gain knowledge about time/space jutsu and implanted all that knowledge with the first Zetsu. There is just too much that happened before obito's birth/death to be just him. |
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