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MakubeX2 · 2007-01-12, 22:12

http://www.2ch.net/

I woke up today, switch to 2ch to search for the latest happening in Japan, only to see this annoucement.

Seems that Hiroyuki or whoever runs 2ch now is filing for bankruptcy. I suppose I can say that I'm surprise that 2ch manage to last this long looking at the amount of post it can sustain each day.

Looking at the future, I think that the fans will either bail the domain owner out or another will rise from the ashes. But the prospect of a prominent place on the net dying is enough for a discussion, I think.

the.Merines · 2007-01-12, 22:23

Wow. Like you said, based on the sheer number of posts, I suppose it isn't shocking, but it's still odd that such an internet "landmark" should be on the verge of going down. I'm sure it'll continue on in some way or another...

Green² · 2007-01-13, 01:45

I've heard elsewhere that the 2ch domain was going to be seized as a result from some lawsuit, but does this also mean that there will be a seizure of the 2ch servers as well?

Aoie_Emesai · 2007-01-13, 02:01

I've actually never been there, so this isn't really news for me

. (info, info)

Oh, i see. Wikipedia really do help ^_^. The Densha Otoko story was quite touching =).

TronDD · 2007-01-13, 13:04

Maybe if they had advertising that was worth supporting, they could stay afloat. All I ever saw was crappy porn ads.

Syaoran · 2007-01-13, 13:13

Guess child porn killed it. What some people posted there is just yuck >_< Visit whatever chan and there're people who sicken it with their cp and acronyms I don't even wanna know what they stand for.

Kinny Riddle · 2007-01-13, 14:20

If it's true, then I for one probably wouldn't lament its downfall. And I guess it's about time their laissez-faire attitude to hate speech of any sort (from anti-football, anti-Haruhi, anti-Korean, you name it) is finally coming back to haunt them in the form of a lawsuit.

Last year's Anime Saimoe tournament gave me a pretty good idea of how the place is filled with - xenophobic and racist pricks, who can get away with their hate speech simply because they're all Mr. Anonymous. Even if they're not in the majority, they are very vocal.

Everytime they see a result they don't like, they instantly blame it on Gaijin-san, or to be more precise, Korean-otas and Chinese-otas.

That pretty much tarnished the impression I had of the place, not even Densha Otoko's legend can redeem it.

But I suppose another similar one would be made by other 2ch denizens with nowhere else to go in due time.

Deathkillz · 2007-01-13, 14:30

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Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

Last year's Anime Saimoe tournament gave me a pretty good idea of how the place is filled with - xenophobic and racist pricks, who can get away with their hate speech simply because they're all Mr. Anonymous. Even if they're not in the majority, they are very vocal.

this says it all...funny how humans show their true colours when behind a brick wall...but now its crumbling down...

Ending · 2007-01-13, 17:46

Visited their site just a few days ago and, IIRC, spam had taken over most of the sections. Didn't look like a very good site.

OutPhase · 2007-01-13, 18:02

2ch is in even more trouble than 4chan currently is right now. Image boards are expensive to host, and people spamming illegal material and blocking advertisements does not make it easier on the owner since if the advertisements don't show up on the visitors computers, they won't give the domain owner any money. The chs and chans are just part of the internet, they ARE the internet.

Shay · 2007-01-13, 18:26

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Originally Posted by Razer_2mb

2ch is in even more trouble than 4chan currently is right now. Image boards are expensive to host, and people spamming illegal material and blocking advertisements does not make it easier on the owner since if the advertisements don't show up on the visitors computers, they won't give the domain owner any money. The chs and chans are just part of the internet, they ARE the internet.

Yo Razer-kun! I thought you changed your name?

OutPhase · 2007-01-13, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Shay

Yo Razer-kun! I thought you changed your name?

Not since we lost a whole years worth of posts, members, topics, bans, and name-changes.

Sorrow-K · 2007-01-13, 22:49

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Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

If it's true, then I for one probably wouldn't lament its downfall. And I guess it's about time their laissez-faire attitude to hate speech of any sort (from anti-football, anti-Haruhi, anti-Korean, you name it) is finally coming back to haunt them in the form of a lawsuit.

Last year's Anime Saimoe tournament gave me a pretty good idea of how the place is filled with - xenophobic and racist pricks, who can get away with their hate speech simply because they're all Mr. Anonymous. Even if they're not in the majority, they are very vocal.

Everytime they see a result they don't like, they instantly blame it on Gaijin-san, or to be more precise, Korean-otas and Chinese-otas.

That pretty much tarnished the impression I had of the place, not even Densha Otoko's legend can redeem it.

But I suppose another similar one would be made by other 2ch denizens with nowhere else to go in due time.

Yeah, maybe so, but I would lament the loss of such an internet landmark. I don't agree with a lot of the reterict (4chan is much the same), but I do like the idea of a totally unrestrained cesspool where free speech wins over political correctness and insanity wins over common sense. Both of them are places where the worst of the internet can be seen in full view... and I actually think that's a good thing.

It is, after all, the biggest and, arguably, most influential internet community in the world. I'd say it'd be a loss if it disappeared.

MakubeX2 · 2007-01-13, 23:42

I repeat waht I said, looking at how deeply 2h had embedded itself into the Japanese net society and all the crazy things that had happened in the past , either the 2ch addicts will bail Hiroyuki out or they will start a 2ch kai/2ch MK-II.

Those fanatics will never let their religion dies.

Kinny Riddle · 2007-01-14, 08:51

From what I've heard, it all began in the middle of 2006, when a Tokyo salaryman requested Hiroyuki to remove all defamatory posts of him. As usual, Hiroyuki ignored his requests. So the salaryman had no choice but to take the case to the local magistrate's.

Yet after many court summonings, Hiroyuki failed to turn up in court, and so from September onwards, the magistrate fined Hiroyuki 50,000 yen per day for "Contempt of Court" for not turning up. The fine has now accumulated to over 5 million yen.

Let this be a lesson to all moderators that both excessive control or too little of it (as with 2ch's case) of their message boards are to be avoided.

Ending · 2007-01-14, 12:04

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Image boards are expensive to host, and people spamming illegal material--

Illegal material isn't a problem. No one gives a crap if someone feels a bit disgrunted after his oh-so-willingly digitally published picture spread a bit farther than he intended.

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blocking advertisements does not make it easier on the owner

Keep in mind that the owners, and not just on 2ch, would not even blink before banning a user after one, wrong comment/pic. Why would the users feel inclined to do any favors to them in return? It is their site and if they can't afford to pay it, it's their problem. Blaming the users is just arsehattery.

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looking at how deeply 2h had embedded itself into the Japanese net society

If their services were needed, they will be replaced by a more capable source.

OutPhase · 2007-01-14, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Wordplay

Keep in mind that the owners, and not just on 2ch, would not even blink before banning a user after one, wrong comment/pic. Why would the users feel inclined to do any favors to them in return? It is their site and if they can't afford to pay it, it's their problem. Blaming the users is just arsehattery.

I have no idea why they would need to give them a cent back. I mean, it only provided them with months of free entertainment and if they wish for the good times to keep on rolling, they better shut up and grin and bear it. Asking to turn off you advertisement filter is not asking for a lot. That would be like saying I should stamp my foot down and refuse to take out the garbage ven if my mom told me to despite her raising me for over 17 years.

Taking out trash: insignificant favor
Turning off ad-blockers: insignificant favor.

Also, for the whole year I have been to 4chan and posting there, I have never even once gotten banned from any of the sections. It's all of a matter of whether or not you took it to far or if you repeatedly posted in the wrong sections.

Shinoto · 2007-01-14, 23:54

Desu? Desu? Desu??????

2Chan is pretty much the Japanese Version of Neogaf...If your looking for a new place to go

Except Neogaf does one thing 2Chan doesnt...They require you to use a real email address...They remove bit of the anym part out of it. Anymon ones such as Hotmail and Yahoo will not work. you have to have one that is connect to you...like the one given to you by your internet provider. So you get a lot less stupidity there...but the OT forums are pretty much the same enjoyment

Xellos-_^ · 2007-01-15, 01:15

If 2chan is gone, where is 2007 Saimoe going to be held?

Aoie_Emesai · 2007-01-15, 01:36

It would have to be 4chan or the next largest Futaba behind 2ch.

ps: you're sig shouldn't be legal. hahaha ^_^. xellos.

2007-01-12, 22:12	Link #1
MakubeX2 うるとらぺど Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 44	2ch...going....dying....Soon.sorta - Joke http://www.2ch.net/ I woke up today, switch to 2ch to search for the latest happening in Japan, only to see this annoucement. Seems that Hiroyuki or whoever runs 2ch now is filing for bankruptcy. I suppose I can say that I'm surprise that 2ch manage to last this long looking at the amount of post it can sustain each day. Looking at the future, I think that the fans will either bail the domain owner out or another will rise from the ashes. But the prospect of a prominent place on the net dying is enough for a discussion, I think.

2007-01-12, 22:23	Link #2
the.Merines Seeker of Power Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ΔHidden Forbidden Holy Ground Age: 39	Wow. Like you said, based on the sheer number of posts, I suppose it isn't shocking, but it's still odd that such an internet "landmark" should be on the verge of going down. I'm sure it'll continue on in some way or another... __________________ I am bound to pay the debt I owe.

2007-01-13, 02:01	Link #4
Aoie_Emesai ♪♫ Maya Iincho ♩♬ Artist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Unnecessary Age: 38	I've actually never been there, so this isn't really news for me . (info, info) Oh, i see. Wikipedia really do help ^_^. The Densha Otoko story was quite touching =). __________________ How to Give / Receive Criticism on your work / Like to draw? Come join Artists Alike Visit my Deviantart Or Blog ~A Child should always surpass his/her parent, Remember.

2007-01-14, 23:54	Link #18
Shinoto Rollin' Like A Boss Join Date: Apr 2006	Desu? Desu? Desu?????? 2Chan is pretty much the Japanese Version of Neogaf...If your looking for a new place to go Except Neogaf does one thing 2Chan doesnt...They require you to use a real email address...They remove bit of the anym part out of it. Anymon ones such as Hotmail and Yahoo will not work. you have to have one that is connect to you...like the one given to you by your internet provider. So you get a lot less stupidity there...but the OT forums are pretty much the same enjoyment __________________

2007-01-15, 01:15	Link #19
Xellos-_^ Not Enough Sleep Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: R'lyeh Age: 48	If 2chan is gone, where is 2007 Saimoe going to be held? __________________

2007-01-13, 01:45	Link #3
Green² It's bacon! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Up and to the Left Age: 43	I've heard elsewhere that the 2ch domain was going to be seized as a result from some lawsuit, but does this also mean that there will be a seizure of the 2ch servers as well?

2007-01-13, 13:04	Link #5
TronDD Team the box! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Badside	Maybe if they had advertising that was worth supporting, they could stay afloat. All I ever saw was crappy porn ads.

2007-01-13, 13:13	Link #6
Syaoran Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Guess child porn killed it. What some people posted there is just yuck >_< Visit whatever chan and there're people who sicken it with their cp and acronyms I don't even wanna know what they stand for.

2007-01-13, 14:20	Link #7
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	If it's true, then I for one probably wouldn't lament its downfall. And I guess it's about time their laissez-faire attitude to hate speech of any sort (from anti-football, anti-Haruhi, anti-Korean, you name it) is finally coming back to haunt them in the form of a lawsuit. Last year's Anime Saimoe tournament gave me a pretty good idea of how the place is filled with - xenophobic and racist pricks, who can get away with their hate speech simply because they're all Mr. Anonymous. Even if they're not in the majority, they are very vocal. Everytime they see a result they don't like, they instantly blame it on Gaijin-san, or to be more precise, Korean-otas and Chinese-otas. That pretty much tarnished the impression I had of the place, not even Densha Otoko's legend can redeem it. But I suppose another similar one would be made by other 2ch denizens with nowhere else to go in due time.

2007-01-13, 17:46	Link #9
Ending Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	Visited their site just a few days ago and, IIRC, spam had taken over most of the sections. Didn't look like a very good site.

2007-01-13, 18:02	Link #10
OutPhase Lord Chairman God King Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Do you really give a damn?	2ch is in even more trouble than 4chan currently is right now. Image boards are expensive to host, and people spamming illegal material and blocking advertisements does not make it easier on the owner since if the advertisements don't show up on the visitors computers, they won't give the domain owner any money. The chs and chans are just part of the internet, they ARE the internet.

2007-01-13, 23:42	Link #14
MakubeX2 うるとらぺど Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 44	I repeat waht I said, looking at how deeply 2h had embedded itself into the Japanese net society and all the crazy things that had happened in the past , either the 2ch addicts will bail Hiroyuki out or they will start a 2ch kai/2ch MK-II. Those fanatics will never let their religion dies.

2007-01-14, 08:51	Link #15
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	From what I've heard, it all began in the middle of 2006, when a Tokyo salaryman requested Hiroyuki to remove all defamatory posts of him. As usual, Hiroyuki ignored his requests. So the salaryman had no choice but to take the case to the local magistrate's. Yet after many court summonings, Hiroyuki failed to turn up in court, and so from September onwards, the magistrate fined Hiroyuki 50,000 yen per day for "Contempt of Court" for not turning up. The fine has now accumulated to over 5 million yen. Let this be a lesson to all moderators that both excessive control or too little of it (as with 2ch's case) of their message boards are to be avoided.

2007-01-15, 01:36	Link #20
Aoie_Emesai ♪♫ Maya Iincho ♩♬ Artist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Unnecessary Age: 38	It would have to be 4chan or the next largest Futaba behind 2ch. ps: you're sig shouldn't be legal. hahaha ^_^. xellos. __________________ How to Give / Receive Criticism on your work / Like to draw? Come join Artists Alike Visit my Deviantart Or Blog ~A Child should always surpass his/her parent, Remember.