2008-04-01, 11:43 | Link #821 | |
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STOP PROPAGATING THAT. Thank you. |
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2008-04-01, 12:17 | Link #824 | |
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I have a theory that they were originally one book, but it was too long for the light novel format and Kadokawa had him cut it in half. Then they delayed it. I'm not really sure why. |
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2008-04-01, 15:21 | Link #827 | |||
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We won't be seeing it until either summer or fall (hoping fall.) In any case, it should be airing before Clannad After Story, sorry Chrissie. |
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2008-04-01, 16:33 | Link #828 | |
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And no, I really don't think it'll be airing before Clannad After Story at all, considering that Clannad is a continuous story as opposed to a collection of self contained stories. You want to keep the continuity as much as possible so as to keep momentum and interest and not suddenly leap into the middle of a story. I think that even taking a season off between Clannad and After Story is a little much. Besides, wouldn't you rather have Haruhi in the fall so you can get your 2 seasons you wanted? Since Kyoani has never seemed to do a Summer-Fall 2 cours show, nor have they started a show in the fall and ended it at one cour. I REALLY do not see them wanting to change that. Spring 2008- Off Summer 2008- Clannad AS Fall 2008- Haruhi Spring 2008- Haruhi (Even though it's a stupid move to make, just made to appease fans) Summer 2008- FMP (Again, to appease fans) Though I'd hate to be Kyoani... They have 2 series that logically should be put off or done differently, but because of their fans their forced to do things differently than the way it should be done. (By the way, the 5% is a death note reference, not a real guess. )
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2008-04-01, 16:59 | Link #829 | |
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2008-04-01, 17:09 | Link #830 | |
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I see them finishing the story they announced before Haruhi. After Story is just a continuation, just like Air in Summer is just a continuation of Air.
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2008-04-01, 17:14 | Link #831 | |
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After Story, while not a standalone story, is a sequel. I can see them waiting another year for it, especially if they want to expand it to 24 episodes and include the minor character arcs. |
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2008-04-01, 17:25 | Link #832 | |
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After Story is not a sequel, it is parts two of two. It's like Higurashi Kai, or Code Geass R2, where they are the same story split in half. Haruhi is a standalone novel. It is very easy to understand the plot in Volume 4 without reading volume 1. Most novels are like this, since they tend to have a simple explanation of the world at the very beginning. It's like the second movement of a symphony, as compared to Clannad which is changing from the allegro to the Largo in the same movement. That's why Haruhi was able to include plot elements from volume 1, 3, 5, and 6 in the first season. They are simply standalone stories with little continuity. So, yes, Haruhi 2 is a continuation of Haruhi, but it is a pure sequel. Clannad 2 is a continuation of Clannad, and it is a part 2. Think Lord of the Rings movie compared to the Indiana Jones series.
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2008-04-01, 18:12 | Link #833 | |
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And while it may be easy to understand Volume 4's plot without reading Volume 1, it is much more difficult to enjoy it without an understanding of the characters. ... Why are we arguing again? |
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2008-04-01, 18:28 | Link #835 |
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Clannad people are still feeling the high from the ending and want to continue the ride while Haruhi people are fiending. Both factions are wanting their anime to be the next one because quite honestly we're all addicts. Thus disputes occur. Picture it like people arguing about their favorite baseball team.
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2008-04-01, 20:38 | Link #836 | |
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1) I stand corrected.
2) I still don't see them releasing 24 episodes this season considering where the story is at currently (though 9-12 months from announcement to release does seem long?, though maybe I'm being biased, but I think it's a good guess). Also, Clannad AS is probably going to come after Haruhi S2. Quote:
Also, I think Haruhi would come out in the summer or the fall (small chance of winter) given Kyo-Ani's release schedule. Nigh impossible they have another project in the works before then, and are they really going to wait a damn year before doing anything else? I doubt it. Plus, thing was announced in July... I think the following is the most likely scenario (by quite a margin): Summer: Haruhi S2 Fall: Clannad AS Other than that, this works, but is sig less likely IMO: Fall/Winter: Haruhi S2 (if fall release, yeah, chance for 24 eps here) Winter/Spring: Clannad AS That's my best guess. I assume it's reasonable. There's no way Summer Clannad AS happens. There's no way Haruhi gets a 3rd season anytime in the next year (though yes, 24 could work, but jeez, I doubt it, considering promotion on focusing on 4th book and some knowledge of novelization). Eh.. the more I think about it, the more they could run second book as well as fourth book, and that's a good 10+ eps right there, man, I just don't think they have enough, and from a marketing standpoint, seems easier to promote one main story. Last edited by lastchance; 2008-04-01 at 20:50. |
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2008-04-01, 21:39 | Link #838 |
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From a Clannad POV, it'd make much more sense to animate the After Story first so as not to disrupt the flow of the story. By shoving Haruhi 2 in between, you disjoint the Clannad story into two and risk losing fan interest at the same time. However seeing as though Clannad does have a pretty huge following and the fact that there's a timeskip between Clannad and it's After Story anyway (or so I've heard), i guess KyoAni can get away with animating Haruhi 2 in between the two Clannad seasons.
The thing here is that the thought of Haruhi being such a huge success probably never even crossed the minds of KyoAni while they were planning their production schedule imo. And as such they probably already had a whole bunch of shows lined up and ready to go for the next two or so years (Kanon > Lucky Star > Clannad > After Story), neglecting a sleeping Haruhi 2 in the process. But after realising what a huge hit Haruhi had been, they most likely managed to pull a few strings here and there, reworking their cash cow into a more favourable spot on the schedule, right smack between Clannad and it's After Story.
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2008-04-01, 21:54 | Link #839 | |
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In reference to the Book 2 debate, I saw another person who argued against animating it on a blog. To wit:
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2008-04-01, 22:41 | Link #840 | ||
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Clannad's riding really high right now. Looking at it from a reward sense... The amount of Haruhiists remain the same every day. If a Haruhiist is looking forward to a S2 still, after 2 years, odds are the same people would be 3 or 4 years after. But the amount of interest in Clannad will drop the longer they stall it out. Sacrafice fans and money for a couple of fans who will be there 3 months later, or reap the rewards of what was sewn? Quote:
It's the same reason why Haruhiists were arguing that Haruhi would air in the fall and Clannad in the Spring last year, while Clannadites were arguing that Clannad would air in the Fall and continue until June, or possibly September.
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