2009-08-29, 23:32 | Link #161 |
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Oops, didn't mean it that way, clearly not a morning person.
Edited my post. In response to your post though, I guess you could say Avatar is anime-esque. Although the creators apparently conceived of it around 2001, so it probably wasn't significantly inspired by anime that was out in the states at the time.
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2009-08-29, 23:44 | Link #162 |
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Cowboy Bebop is important in a different sense than what roriconfan and I were concentrating on. We were mostly talking about shows that either indicated a major change in the anime-viewing audience, or initiated that change. Cowboy Bebop touched on the same story elements that Western anime fans had already been known to appreciate, so it didn't open up much new ground.
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2009-09-01, 10:35 | Link #163 |
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Well I do think that anime being ported to west having no other way to describe sometimes suffers censorship which is somewhat an abuse to storytelling and art in general. The only time a dub has made a show better or on the same level was probably done by Saban called Samurai Pizza Cats. If you look at the 4kid's cut censored dubbed version of One piece or Yugioh english dubb you can realize how badly they butcher the shows that hop across the ocean.
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I don't really want to see ecchi relegated to OVAs only. I strongly suspect that the need to fit the whole plot in - what, two or three episode? - is at least a minor factor in the plot quality of most hentai. (I sometimes wonder why nobody seems to market H OVAs as a compliment to a full blown TV series though.) My only real gripe with the ecchi genre is the fact it usually seems to assume a serious lack of sophistication on the part of it's audience. When I can find an image of a girl licking a peach on a image archive that's hotter than most of the scenes in your typical ecchi anime despite having safe search on, it's safe to say that quite a few series aren't really delivering. And indeed, many of what I'd consider to be great fanservice scenes come from none fanservice oriented series - like the aforementioned gym storage shed scene with Kyou from Clannad. Last edited by 0utf0xZer0; 2009-09-08 at 02:01. Reason: Opening sentence offensive to unintended targets, |
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Fanservice isn't bad by any means, but when that's all a show has going for it, that's saying a lot bout the show in question.
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2009-09-07, 07:20 | Link #169 |
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I have to say that I highly resent your implication that a person isn't mature simply because they don't like fanservice. A person can be perfectly mature and not be interested in fanservice. I wouldn't say that an interest in fanservice is immature, but nor is it immature to not have an interest in fanservice.
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Second, I don't see how your remark is connected to what 0utf0xZer0 said. And finally, third, the difference between "not liking" and "hating" might often be relevant, in this case it's IMHO purely semantic.
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2009-09-07, 13:37 | Link #172 | |
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An equivalent thing is kinda happening in the game industry. Manufacturers like Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft and respectable publishers want nothing to do with porn games. They'd never sublicense their stuff to adult-oriented companies. However, the boundaries are being pushed too, even on the Nintendo DS (that witch-spanking fetish game comes to mind). |
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2009-09-07, 14:04 | Link #174 |
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Sex is EVIL and anyone dealing with ero games and ero anime will have his soul burning eternally in hell for his sins.
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It's not about prudishness at all... it's about wanting to focus on what's actually going on in the story, instead of distracting pantyshot no. 15499. This is especially annoying, imo, during epic battles. If people are complaining about that it's not because they're freaking out at the sexual content - it's that they're simply finding it distracting from the plot. Now, thankfully, Bakemonogatari has not had any distracting fanservice like that yet - what fanservice it has had flows naturally from the plot, so it doesn't distract people that are mostly interested in the plot.
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I'm just disputing the idea that fanservice is always bad and that it needs to be minimized or relegated to OVAs. Sex is a legitimate element in stories aimed at a mature audience. |
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I'm sure one can watch Bakemonogatari, and ignore the great characters and story for fanservice and vice-versa. My main problem with FireChick's posts is that there's a lack of respect for other peoples opinions. That somehow people are "wrong" for liking and support a genre they like because that genre doesn't fit her ideals for what anime should be. I'm not saying one's has to like all the genres of anime to be correct or "mature" but you should at least respect that other people have different tastes than you. Quote:
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A great example that I know would be najica blitz tatics had a great story, solid characterizations, and well choreographed fight scene but had a pantyshot literally every 2 seconds but since they weren't reference and it didn't obstruct the other parts of the anime I don't really see any need to get worked up about it. (For anyone still aroused by pantyshots do not watch series, as you will burn after 2 episodes) Last edited by animeboy12; 2009-09-07 at 20:54. |
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2009-09-07, 23:34 | Link #178 |
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This also applies to real life series, you know. They can fall under the non-original series and be abused just as the time passes. It also happens with anime: imagine someone comes out with an excellent idea/plot (like Gurren-Lagann). It could've failed or had a good success.
The same stories still sell in Japan, why stop making them?
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But what is related, is that if you do not enjoy fanservice, it takes maturity to realize that it is a personal preference and to not be angry of its existence. Likewise it is when you are a fan of it, there's no need to convince the world of its merits. Passionately railing for or against something that has no objective effect on your life seems silly. |
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