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wuhugm · 2016-06-08, 08:09

^For kicks? lol~

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Originally Posted by sasuke706

It's a pretty fun story overall, but has issues with pacing every now and then.
Like after a problem gets solved it'll spend 3-4 chapters on explanations and shit. I mean, once the work is completed it's not so much of an issue, but reading along with daily updates with an explanation getting spread out over 3-5 days is somewhat irritating.
The synopsis page is also laid out like a complete mess. Wanting to explain exactly what a series has and doesn't have is nice and all, but calm the hell down with it.

Also, he has one girl so far with likely him not getting anymore, and she's iffy on that status. She's the same race as him and the daughter of another Dungeon Master, aka a "princess," and there's been hints as of the latest chapter that she's probably not going to be meeting dear old dad ever again. Which means she's stuck with the protagonist despite how much she'd rather not be.
That said, there's still another former half-goblin majin in his dungeon that she can get with after they meet, so nothing is solid until they fuck on this one.

Revenge is also a major theme in this, with ironically the protagonist being the only one not looking for some.
But he is more than willing to help his minions out in their revenge (even if he isn't sympathetic at all), so I suppose it doesn't make a difference.

Just like World Teacher, dun like a work where MC does too much for people without him gaining anything but "loyalty".

sasuke706 · 2016-06-08, 08:10

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Originally Posted by cabman11

Yeah I don't think she's getting together with the half Goblin. No foreseeable reason why

She's basically a princess knight and he has tentacles.
But in all seriousness, while I agree the chances are low, it is a chance.

cabman11 · 2016-06-08, 08:10

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Originally Posted by sasuke706

Revenge is also a major theme in this, with ironically the protagonist being the only one not looking for some.
But he is more than willing to help his minions out in their revenge (even if he isn't sympathetic at all), so I suppose it doesn't make a difference.

Yeah especially with the new chapter. It looks like vampire girls going to have a reason to seek revenge.

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

^For kicks? lol~

Just like World Teacher, dun like a work where MC does too much for people without him gaining anything but "loyalty".

I think you have a little biased toward it just because it doesn't say Harem. And also it's a win-win situation for both of them. Usually the MC gets good minions and they get a reason and a way to Revenge.
But that demon girl is the MC's girl.

bakato · 2016-06-08, 08:11

Can I expect facehuggers and psionics? The most important thing for a dungeon-trope story is the challengers. Have any good challengers appeared?

cabman11 · 2016-06-08, 08:14

No face huggers yet but it's getting there.
We already have Runners, workers, some kind of a living flower thing, some good ol acid spitters. And just newly created little bastard telepathic alien sentient brain things.
Aka biological supercomputers

bakato · 2016-06-08, 08:19

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Originally Posted by cabman11

No face huggers yet but it's getting there.
We already have Runners, workers, some kind of a living flower thing, some good ol acid spitters. And just newly created little bastard telepathic alien sentient brain things.
Aka biological supercomputers

Nice. Have any poor chumps been served this course of horrors?

sasuke706 · 2016-06-08, 08:22

The only challengers his dungeon have had are the dragonman (with useless goblins as support) and the Mind Mage siblings.
The reason being is basically no one can invade from the demon realm side due to location, and the human realm side is in a forbidden forest (forbidden for unknown reasons) that no one's allowed to enter.
But the human nations are taking an active stance toward dungeons with the latest developments, forming an adventurer guild and all that jazz.
So it'll happen eventually.

He's also taken his aliens out on a walk this one time and some slavers and bandits died in terror.
Though part of that terror was the Mind Mage brother's work.

cabman11 · 2016-06-08, 08:31

Lets talk little bit about the MC's personality.

He likes to fuck with people. He really really likes to mess with people. Attracted sexually harasse the vampire but after he got no response he got bored. But majin girl gave him a respond so he kept going. ('~' )
He's pretty flamboyant too.

cabman11 · 2016-06-09, 10:45

New chapter

Spoiler:

sasuke706 · 2016-06-09, 12:28

Yeah, the whole situation is fucked everywhere basically.
The demon realm has been in a sort of cold war state with itself ever since the last war and everyone more or less just wants to stab each other in the back. Ironically, it doesn't seem like any of them have tried to do shit to the human realm, respecting the pact or treaty or whatever it was after the last war.

The human nations have always been at war with the vampire nation (and have destroyed the dragon people empire), but are now starting a civil war because some of them want to expand their territory into the demon realm.

This meaning that they're basically going to stir-up the hornet's nest because they're severally underestimating what dungeon masters are capable of and just how many there are. So it's going to become a demon realm vs itself vs human realm also versus itself. A 5(and more)-way complete mess and the divine realm just sitting back on sidelines pretending they aren't there. And then you have the protagonist that is basically on his own side.
But my god I'm having trouble remembering who's who with all these names.

I also like how Michel casually completely overcame the noise that generated when trying to communicate from the demon realm to human realm.
She must've been pretty goddamn bored the past two months.

cabman11 · 2016-06-09, 12:31

Don't underestimate the powers of a psychic yandere.
And that mask makes it cooler.

And there's only like 7 or 11 named characters

sasuke706 · 2016-06-09, 13:00

There's way more than 11 named characters.
Not that it's a bad thing, but the author more or less introduces everyone who appears on screen for even 1 line.
I can remember the people who get involved with the protagonist just fine, but all this Marquis shit is getting me mixed up. Like I thought that Gilmo guy was the Four Element's house head but this chapter said he isn't.

And no that isn't me.

obnuchious · 2016-06-09, 13:09

at present, how many dungeon masters been mentioned? and what had they been doing?

cabman11 · 2016-06-09, 13:22

3? Have been mentioned

Spoiler:

Kaito Yamakage · 2016-06-09, 14:56

MC needs to do a zergling rush on the humans they don't have enough marines to counter.

cabman11 · 2016-06-09, 15:05

He did say hi is going to produce around a thousand

obnuchious · 2016-06-10, 06:02

well, a thousand is still manageable for the humans if they bother to unite as one ... but if they still persist in their civil war . . . bye bye

though the real problem with a thousand zerglings ...... would they be the basic/common types or the fully evolved ones (in regards to SCII)

sasuke706 · 2016-06-10, 11:05

His basic zerglings would be somewhat upgraded.
The world has a sort of level up system, but so far it's only been shown that dungeon masters can access this and generally no one else is even aware it exists, not even the daughter of another dungeon master.
He uses this to strengthen his minions with their own levels, and the protagonist's own levels all go into either information gathering abilities or minion strengthening.
For the record, the protagonist can fight and has been practicing with a spear, but he typically doesn't use level ups to increase his own fighting abilities.
That said, this series doesn't like the whole one-man army bit, so the strengthening stuff are just slight increases.

Of course he has other kinds of zerg as well.
He can make structure zerglings including tower defense ones.
He has hydralisks that specialize in stealth.
He has a gorilla-type and its upgrade, which is basically an armored gorilla.
He has acid artillery worms and bats that spew fire everywhere.
He also has mini-overmind minions...that talk and act like grade schoolers, with kyupi kyupi stuff.
He's got your average drone ones for manual labor, too, of course.

The protagonist actively goes around collecting what's basically DNA strands to upgrade his Zerg with. Not all DNA strands have an apparent use though, however.

obnuchious · 2016-06-10, 23:37

so this is one of those stories where Levels =/= TUE

He has hydralisks that specialize in stealth == I've only seen Lurkers do that so being them Hydras doing that is good . . perfect against ground and air targets

He has acid artillery worms and bats that spew fire everywhere == Spore Colony (that uses them Banelings) and Mutalisks, much?

mini-overmind minions...that talk and act like grade schoolers, with kyupi kyupi stuff == that's enough to cause mental and soul damage

He's got your average drone ones for manual labor, too, of course == one can never go without drones for manual labors .. though am guessing they ain't only mining for minerals and gas... can they still be used to attack?

has he tried attacking other dungeons, even if he's that far away?

sasuke706 · 2016-06-10, 23:50

The hydralisks don't have a range attack. They're just described exactly as looking like one, but stealthy. So they're for scouting, stalking, and assassinations.
The drones can be used to attack, but they're super weak. In battle, he uses them to rearrange terrain on the fly. Terrain as in his dungeon walls.

He hasn't tried attacking another dungeon. In fact, he's trying to get one as an ally currently but has to meet the dungeon master first, who may be up to some shady shit or just outright dead.
He can't attack from the demon realm side because his island is guarded by a hydra that attacks anything going in or out, and it turns out hydras are pretty goddamn strong. Not to mention aliens aren't so good with water yet.
Otherwise, he's also only an Archbaron — the second lowest position a dungeon master can be in. Odds are he isn't a match for other dungeons yet.

He probably has an idea where some dungeons are located on the human side because of the Mind Mage siblings' archive memory, but going to one without standing out is extremely difficult, not to mention attacking one from the human side would completely ruin his plan of staying low for the time being. He just wants to bolster his forces and find neat DNA strands.

Also to mention, he has a small army of enslaved goblins and has been purchasing interesting human slaves as of late.
It hasn't gone into why the human slaves are interesting yet though.

2016-06-08, 08:14	Link #25
cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	No face huggers yet but it's getting there. We already have Runners, workers, some kind of a living flower thing, some good ol acid spitters. And just newly created little bastard telepathic alien sentient brain things. Aka biological supercomputers __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

2016-06-08, 08:31	Link #28
cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	Lets talk little bit about the MC's personality. He likes to fuck with people. He really really likes to mess with people. Attracted sexually harasse the vampire but after he got no response he got bored. But majin girl gave him a respond so he kept going. ('~' ) He's pretty flamboyant too. __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

2016-06-09, 10:45	Link #29
cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	New chapter Spoiler: So what Civil War is about to break out in the human world. We all are happy go lucky dungeon master is silently walking through. Also brother and sister Fusion Magic __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

2016-06-09, 12:31	Link #31
cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	Don't underestimate the powers of a psychic yandere. And that mask makes it cooler. And there's only like 7 or 11 named characters __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown Last edited by cabman11; 2016-06-09 at 13:00.

2016-06-09, 13:09	Link #33
obnuchious Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	at present, how many dungeon masters been mentioned? and what had they been doing? __________________ Something I did to pass the time: https://www.fictionpress.com/u/997198/ ======== Oxygen was first discovered in 1783. How could people breathe back then?

2016-06-08, 08:11	Link #24
bakato Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	Can I expect facehuggers and psionics? The most important thing for a dungeon-trope story is the challengers. Have any good challengers appeared?

2016-06-08, 08:22	Link #27
sasuke706 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	The only challengers his dungeon have had are the dragonman (with useless goblins as support) and the Mind Mage siblings. The reason being is basically no one can invade from the demon realm side due to location, and the human realm side is in a forbidden forest (forbidden for unknown reasons) that no one's allowed to enter. But the human nations are taking an active stance toward dungeons with the latest developments, forming an adventurer guild and all that jazz. So it'll happen eventually. He's also taken his aliens out on a walk this one time and some slavers and bandits died in terror. Though part of that terror was the Mind Mage brother's work.

2016-06-09, 12:28	Link #30
sasuke706 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Yeah, the whole situation is fucked everywhere basically. The demon realm has been in a sort of cold war state with itself ever since the last war and everyone more or less just wants to stab each other in the back. Ironically, it doesn't seem like any of them have tried to do shit to the human realm, respecting the pact or treaty or whatever it was after the last war. The human nations have always been at war with the vampire nation (and have destroyed the dragon people empire), but are now starting a civil war because some of them want to expand their territory into the demon realm. This meaning that they're basically going to stir-up the hornet's nest because they're severally underestimating what dungeon masters are capable of and just how many there are. So it's going to become a demon realm vs itself vs human realm also versus itself. A 5(and more)-way complete mess and the divine realm just sitting back on sidelines pretending they aren't there. And then you have the protagonist that is basically on his own side. But my god I'm having trouble remembering who's who with all these names. I also like how Michel casually completely overcame the noise that generated when trying to communicate from the demon realm to human realm. She must've been pretty goddamn bored the past two months.

2016-06-09, 13:00	Link #32
sasuke706 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	There's way more than 11 named characters. Not that it's a bad thing, but the author more or less introduces everyone who appears on screen for even 1 line. I can remember the people who get involved with the protagonist just fine, but all this Marquis shit is getting me mixed up. Like I thought that Gilmo guy was the Four Element's house head but this chapter said he isn't. And no that isn't me.

2016-06-09, 13:22	Link #34
cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	3? Have been mentioned Spoiler: But in the demon world society a labyrinth is synonyms to a country. And they aren't underground and immobile either. The labyrinth is represented by where the user visually claims to be his rightful "territory" Think of it as if there's some kind of invisible "field". And that "field" is his territory. So the entire Island MC is currently on as his Labyrinth /Country. These are the countries of the Demon World and each dungeon Lord is a king essentially And they're said to be six hundred of them. But the dungeon Lord system a ranking. While they are all technically Kings. They still follow the basic Baron to arc-duke system. With the Devil being at the highest. The position that pretty much something along the lines of a pope to the Demon gods. And also the devil doesn't necessarily have to be the strongest either. The main military power are held in the archduke's and their armies. So yes around 600 Labyrinth cores spread out in the Demon World. All of them have a Lord. And mc's one was actually hidden in the farthest Island that no one can reach in the Demon World therefore his was literally the last untouched one After Conquering the whole island and she became an arch barron __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

2016-06-09, 14:56	Link #35
Kaito Yamakage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007	MC needs to do a zergling rush on the humans they don't have enough marines to counter. __________________

2016-06-09, 15:05	Link #36
cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	He did say hi is going to produce around a thousand __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

2016-06-10, 06:02	Link #37
obnuchious Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	well, a thousand is still manageable for the humans if they bother to unite as one ... but if they still persist in their civil war . . . bye bye though the real problem with a thousand zerglings ...... would they be the basic/common types or the fully evolved ones (in regards to SCII) __________________ Something I did to pass the time: https://www.fictionpress.com/u/997198/ ======== Oxygen was first discovered in 1783. How could people breathe back then?

2016-06-10, 11:05	Link #38
sasuke706 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	His basic zerglings would be somewhat upgraded. The world has a sort of level up system, but so far it's only been shown that dungeon masters can access this and generally no one else is even aware it exists, not even the daughter of another dungeon master. He uses this to strengthen his minions with their own levels, and the protagonist's own levels all go into either information gathering abilities or minion strengthening. For the record, the protagonist can fight and has been practicing with a spear, but he typically doesn't use level ups to increase his own fighting abilities. That said, this series doesn't like the whole one-man army bit, so the strengthening stuff are just slight increases. Of course he has other kinds of zerg as well. He can make structure zerglings including tower defense ones. He has hydralisks that specialize in stealth. He has a gorilla-type and its upgrade, which is basically an armored gorilla. He has acid artillery worms and bats that spew fire everywhere. He also has mini-overmind minions...that talk and act like grade schoolers, with kyupi kyupi stuff. He's got your average drone ones for manual labor, too, of course. The protagonist actively goes around collecting what's basically DNA strands to upgrade his Zerg with. Not all DNA strands have an apparent use though, however.

2016-06-10, 23:37	Link #39
obnuchious Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	so this is one of those stories where Levels =/= TUE He has hydralisks that specialize in stealth == I've only seen Lurkers do that so being them Hydras doing that is good . . perfect against ground and air targets He has acid artillery worms and bats that spew fire everywhere == Spore Colony (that uses them Banelings) and Mutalisks, much? mini-overmind minions...that talk and act like grade schoolers, with kyupi kyupi stuff == that's enough to cause mental and soul damage He's got your average drone ones for manual labor, too, of course == one can never go without drones for manual labors .. though am guessing they ain't only mining for minerals and gas... can they still be used to attack? has he tried attacking other dungeons, even if he's that far away? __________________ Something I did to pass the time: https://www.fictionpress.com/u/997198/ ======== Oxygen was first discovered in 1783. How could people breathe back then?

2016-06-10, 23:50	Link #40
sasuke706 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	The hydralisks don't have a range attack. They're just described exactly as looking like one, but stealthy. So they're for scouting, stalking, and assassinations. The drones can be used to attack, but they're super weak. In battle, he uses them to rearrange terrain on the fly. Terrain as in his dungeon walls. He hasn't tried attacking another dungeon. In fact, he's trying to get one as an ally currently but has to meet the dungeon master first, who may be up to some shady shit or just outright dead. He can't attack from the demon realm side because his island is guarded by a hydra that attacks anything going in or out, and it turns out hydras are pretty goddamn strong. Not to mention aliens aren't so good with water yet. Otherwise, he's also only an Archbaron — the second lowest position a dungeon master can be in. Odds are he isn't a match for other dungeons yet. He probably has an idea where some dungeons are located on the human side because of the Mind Mage siblings' archive memory, but going to one without standing out is extremely difficult, not to mention attacking one from the human side would completely ruin his plan of staying low for the time being. He just wants to bolster his forces and find neat DNA strands. Also to mention, he has a small army of enslaved goblins and has been purchasing interesting human slaves as of late. It hasn't gone into why the human slaves are interesting yet though.