Shin High School DxD Volume 4 Discussion

[AzazelDxD]

Originally Posted by Ruki0089

Wow, Lint-chan!

Sona falling to Non-Pervert Ise.
Please make it happen!

I can´t see it. Less after Shin 2 vision of Issei wedding.

I like to see my cute Bennia in the quotes too.

Originally Posted by darkofficer

that sona quote seems like they are getting overpowerd by the enemy.

also issei looks weird in that cover art

This seems more likely

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

So Alphecca tyrants user is named Meredith. Betting Issei strips her when he gets his perversion back and she falls for him lol. Or maybe she is attracted to him but not his perversion, so she neutralized his perversion to get the parts she is attracted to more prominent

I doubt it. She sounds like one Raynare 2.0 that for unkown reasons hates Le Fay..

Before this crown, whether it’s Oppai Dragon or Vali Lucifer, everyone will kneel before me. Now look how the thing important to you breaks, Le Fay! -- Meredith Ordinton, possessor of Longinus Alphecca Tyrant

I prefer not heard about this meredith again. the author can always give her longinus to another person like in incinerate anthem case.

Originally Posted by Malbolge

This is the last time Grim Reapers are going to be relevant to the plot, so I need to see at least some sort of flag being raised, otherwise I'm abandoning this ship.

It seems that her father group of Grim Reapers(moderate faction?) want peace with the devils and rest of the world.

It was mentioned in Vol 24 when the ORC talked with him and in SHIN 3 was mentioned too calling this group as Anti-Hades faction and mentioning something about Post-war negociations.

Curiously Bennia appears between the quotes of girls that are not in Issei harem that talk about help him that are Lint and elmenhilde(that was confirmed) despite she is not mentioning him.

I still see her for the harem.

I sincerely hope this isn't implying that Balberith is getting villain-of-the-day treatment.

After what happened in Shin 3 is IMPOSSIBLE consider him a villain.. I am sure that he will be fine.

Originally Posted by Ruki0089

Also, Sona probably see Ise as Man. Not like the way she see Saji as little brother.

I don´t care about Saji but.. It seems that Sona doesn´t want problems in her peerage and with Saji having 2 girls in love with him she was not interested in create more problems. In other words. Sona is ANTI-HAREM.

Saji losed one of these girls in love with him(nimura). I am sure that soon Momo will end tired of him too soon. lol.

[Malbolge]

After what happened in Shin 3 is IMPOSSIBLE consider him a villain.. I am sure that he will be fine.

I'm not saying he's an outright villain, that's obvious.

Villian-of-the-day treatment (or perhaps I should say JOBBER treatment) is when you exist to lose a fight to the protagonists to make them look good. Like Sonellion/Greissil in the last volume. What I'm saying is based on how he's been built up, it shouldn't be believable that Balberith will lose to the people he's fighting against.

But again, I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

[Hakai]

No way Bal is going to lose to them after all that hype, at best I see them doing somewhat better than Mahabali and maybe actually do a little damage to him this time.

And since he's a massive oppai dragon fan he might seriously hold back against Ise's known allies.

[AzazelDxD]

Originally Posted by Malbolge

I'm not saying he's an outright villain, that's obvious.

Villian-of-the-day treatment (or perhaps I should say JOBBER treatment) is when you exist to lose a fight to the protagonists to make them look good. Like Sonellion/Greissil in the last volume. What I'm saying is based on how he's been built up, it shouldn't be believable that Balberith will lose to the people he's fighting against.

But again, I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

I choosed the WRONG WORDS

After what happened in SHIN 3 is impossible that the author considers him a villain. even his quote doesn´t sound like that if we compare him with that Meredith(who talks like a true villain).

Yeah.. Is only wait and see what happens. Fortunatelly the 19th of February(in some parts of the world) the lifes spoilers will start to appear and maybe we will discover it.

And since he's a massive oppai dragon fan he might seriously hold back against Ise's known allies.

Yeah. Maybe he will contain and not use the 100% of his strenght.

[Lex79]

Sona falling in love with Issei is one of the things I would truly dislike for this series, I hope the quote refers to so egging else.

[AzazelDxD]

Shin 2 avoided that. With the rookies 4(including sona) as Issei wedding guests.


The author can't have changed my mind 2 volumes later.

[Hakai]

2020, Shin 4 about to be released. And we're still talking about Sona in harem.

Some things never change

[Ka-el]

Originally Posted by Malbolge

I see some people going ahead and declaring her for the harem already, but all I see is a Walburga-tier villian? The harem already has so many girls, and there are still plenty of desirable candidates who are still available (like Bennia…), so do we really need to start stanning for someone with such a deplorable introduction?

Issei have to complete his peerage and since Ishi already stated that there will be old and new character joining it, there will be new girls for the harem as well of course, since his peerage will be formed by some of his harem girls. Among his peerage the only new character out of the 5 he already has only is Ingvild, so he clearly will have some new character for it.

[vietthai96]

Issei's dream is not absolute, in the course of the series Ishi could add more girl, even those we don't think of

[AzazelDxD]

Originally Posted by vietthai96

Issei's dream is not absolute, in the course of the series Ishi could add more girl, even those we don't think of

His dream suggested that there were more than 15 girls.. Without confirm any number.

Anyway. Probably we can discard Sona and Seekvaira after this.

[Vasy]

Originally Posted by AzazelDxD

His dream suggested that there were more than 15 girls.. Without confirm any number.

Anyway. Probably we can discard Sona and Seekvaira after this.

In the dream it is said that he marries the first 2 groups, and after the first two groups there are more girls, it was said that the first group has 12 girls, and in the second I would assume that also 12 girls. So I think the number of girls spins around number 30.

[Vasy]

Originally Posted by vietthai96

Issei's dream is not absolute, in the course of the series Ishi could add more girl, even those we don't think of

very well emphasized

[AzazelDxD]

Originally Posted by Vasy

In the dream it is said that he marries the first 2 groups, and after the first two groups there are more girls, it was said that the first group has 12 girls, and in the second I would assume that also 12 girls. So I think the number of girls spins around number 30.

This is the LAST ARC. With this Azazel CUP ending the serie will end..


SO. You can expect 20 girls. Maybe even 24(If the 2nd group has 12 too. maybe this group has only 8 and the total is 20)... But never 30.

Maybe the next serie(That will continue in dxd universe according ishi) confirms you that Issei has +30.. But SHIN is the last Issei serie as MC. So the new serie will only mention it without say new names.

[Draigathar]

Sona probably won't fall for ise. She was mentioned in EX that the kids called her aunt sona.

[Ruki0089]

Affair still option

[Vasy]

That chronology is different from the current one, in that chronology Issei never made contact with Chichigami. So nothing is impossible.

[Vasy]

Originally Posted by AzazelDxD

This is the LAST ARC. With this Azazel CUP ending the serie will end..


SO. You can expect 20 girls. Maybe even 24(If the 2nd group has 12 too. maybe this group has only 8 and the total is 20)... But never 30.

Maybe the next serie(That will continue in dxd universe according ishi) confirms you that Issei has +30.. But SHIN is the last Issei serie as MC. So the new serie will only mention it without say new names.

I don't think there's anything more to explore in this universe.

[CCPDarkraiRules]

Originally Posted by Vasy

That chronology is different from the current one, in that chronology Issei never made contact with Chichigami. So nothing is impossible.

No EX is not the chronology in that Issei never made contact with Chichigami the one which he never made contact with Chichigami was Born's.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Lex79

Sona falling in love with Issei is one of the things I would truly dislike for this series, I hope the quote refers to so egging else.

It’s possible she falls for his nonperverted, responsible self but not his usual perverted self so nothing comes of it.

[n0m@n]

Ouryuu is another male who is confirmed to have a harem end (since he has his fiance and Miraka) due to his special background. But Saji is still just a reincarnated Devil, no matter how strong he is. So I can't see him having several girls such as Hanakai and Sona like Ise or Ouryuu. And Nimura already left the love-triangle so I doubt she's going back in.

Also let's not forget that Sona is the next heir for the House of Sitri. Her elder sister is gone and she didnt have any child. So it's up-to Sona to leave a pure offspring for the Sitri bloodline. So in that regards I can't see the House of Sitri acknowledging Sona to give birth to Ise's child. The only reason Rias can marry Ise is because Millicas will succeed Rias for the head of Gremory.

Also for the upcoming volume 4 we are getting the final match of the Top-16 RG tournament ---Team Vali vs Team Journey to the West.

So that means that volume 4 would give us the result of the other 3 matches before that match which consists of:

Cao Cao's team vs Surtr's team
Typhoon's team vs Ruval Phenex's team
Slash Dog's team vs Dulio's team.


My prediction for the quarter-finals would be.....

Quarter-finals
1. Indra Team vs Sairaorg Team (confirmed)
2. Diehauser Team vs Ise Team (confirmed)
3. Surtr Team vs Typhoon Team (my prediction)
4. Slash Dog Team vs Vali Team (my prediction)

To be honest I just read volume 2 and volume 3 of Shin DxD today and the perspective I had of Ise's strength totally changed.
Before reading these two volumes I kept on saying that he's going to definitely lose against Indra in the semi-finals and that Vali would also not advance to the finals (so I always thought Ise vs Vali would be like Ippo vs Miyata from Hajime no Ippo where the destined rival never would happen).

But after reading those two volumes it seems like Ise vs Vali in the finals would happen due to their (Ise in particular) power boosts. Ise defeating four Gods (Cheif God and primordial Gods) is insane already. If you include the materialisation of Ddraig and Ddraig's achievement of defeating Typhoon is also part of Ise's achievement then Ise's feats are beyond outstanding. And the upcoming volume will have Ise face another God.

Since volume 3 ended with the talk of Ise becoming an Ultimate-level Devil, I guess that may happen at the very end of volume 4 since it's the end of this arc?