2012-10-14, 15:40 | Link #881 |
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Governments mass producing drugs to appease the masses would be too obvious, but easily accessible virtual sex works just the same, it allows the brain to release dopamine which makes you feel better. Of course if your life gets exponentially screwed day by day you will feel shittier and shittier after the effects of the dopamine wear off.
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2012-10-14, 15:44 | Link #882 |
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Do "police brutality" or "excessive use of force" ring a bell? Because you are not a desanitized member of the psycho pass universe, you live in our universe and you are supposed to yell "Foul" at that kind of behavior. I mean, you can already paralize on the spot a perp with a stun gun, but it is not standard procedure anywhere on the world for a good reason.
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2012-10-14, 15:49 | Link #884 |
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I think that the entire point of this story is that the system is very twisted. It criminalizes and ostracizes people for crimes they may or may not commit. It's not like the ones who haven't done anything yet are going to be sent to happy camps, you know?
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2012-10-14, 15:50 | Link #885 | |
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"You can just do what the Dominator tells you.If it says shoot,then just shoot (...) you don't have to take it too seriously" It's really more the attitude of the people in the system rather than the system itself that bothers me.Because really,shooting someone should be taken seriously. Then again,the person telling her this isn't mentally stable according to the system itself
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So instead of using "what if", it would be fairly less a headache if you consider the facts: a victim was -judged- as a latent criminal worthy of a paralyzer, and subsequent therapy. Also, we are again going in circle, but if the system wasn't flawed, as in: not involving victims in its evualation and/or if the system was able to consider circumstances, the problem wouldn't even be present to begin with. Assuming the system isn't flawed means that it was right for the system to consider the victim was a "criminal". Quote:
Being paralyzed isn't the only problem: it is also the fact you will be taken into custody by the police, despite you didn't do anything wrong. However "not menacing" the police can be, the victims are always subject to additional anxiety and fear, even in this day and age. Quote:
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2012-10-14, 15:52 | Link #887 |
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The system wasn't build to consider "circumstances". It just reads the target's psychological state and assigns a value to it, and applies countermeasures depending on the value, rather than the situation.
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2012-10-14, 15:58 | Link #888 | |
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2012-10-14, 15:59 | Link #889 |
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Pretty much like Anh minh, my biggest gripe is the "system" as the protocole stating: if you see an individual with X cc level, do this or that etc.
The psycho pass meter itself is "harmless" as again, it doesn't force the Dominator holder to execute the person in front of them. Instead, the problem is the way how the law enforcing procedure is heavily reliant on numbers etc (hence a system). The settled procedures and environnement is the law enforcement system, which literally dictate measures that involve people that shouldn't even be pressed charges to begin with.
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2012-10-14, 16:01 | Link #890 | ||
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You'll have to forgive me if there's an instance I worded it poorly. But this is pretty much my stance on this: Quote:
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2012-10-14, 16:09 | Link #892 |
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That's why I'm wondering if this isn't case where when the system was created the numbers were just supposed to be some sort of guidance but as time went by people got lazy and just started blindly trusting numbers and it became the norm and what's expected even if it wasn't the original intent.
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2012-10-14, 16:12 | Link #893 | |
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Other possibility: people started just asking more and more of the system. They saw every news-worthy criminal had a story of high CC and started clamoring for the police and justice department to take a more proactive stance in stopping crime before it actually occurs, while never really thinking about what it'd mean for the innocent. |
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2012-10-14, 16:13 | Link #894 | |
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2012-10-14, 16:54 | Link #895 |
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I get the impression that you think the narrative quality of this anime is dependent on the defensibility of the Psycho-Pass system. But given Gen's track record, I'm not sure why anybody would think that. Spoiler for Fate/Zero and Madoka Magica spoilers:
Now, to be clear, the Psycho-Pass system may have a certain logic to it. It probably does result in more criminals being caught/killed (but it probably victimizes loads of innocent people in the process of getting there). I can imagine somebody like Light Yagami thinking that it's just wonderful. But I definitely think the system is meant to creep out the average viewer, and to leave us disturbed by it. I really don't think that it's meant to be seen in a positive light.
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2012-10-14, 17:05 | Link #896 |
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eh I'm not saying I won't be able to enjoy this anime if the system turned to be really crazy. I just don't see why I should see this world as crazy when: it cannot be proven in this first episode, a lot of evidence to counter it, and when it also doesn't logically follow. And TBH I think it's more interesting if the system turned out to be quite defensible and not some sort of super oppressive and totalitarian system that you get to expect from a futuristic story where the world is ruled by a dictator. edit: Also if the system turned out to be quite defensible... it doesn't mean that Gen can't make up even more twisted situations where it defeats the purpose of the system.
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There's not (yet at least) "a lot" of evidence to counter what we've been saying, and there's plenty of reason to think that this Psycho-Pass system is pretty crazy.
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And what do you have to prove that the system is crazy? That the system tagged her as a latent criminal when you don't even really know how accurate the reading is? What if the reading turned out to be accurate and she really is a latent criminal? The system gave her the death sentence when there was no oracle issued by Sibyl?
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