G Gundam

[Eidolon Sniper]

I'm not really sure, considering I watched Wing before G (stupid dubbers over here)....>.<;; yeah, timeline wise, G was created before Wing.

Ummm, isn't Spiegel/Kojiro...

Spoiler:

Domon's older brother...?

[grandmaster192]

Originally Posted by Eidolon Sniper

Spoiler:

Domon's older brother...?

Yes. .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Gundam Pilot]

I rate G Gundam: 8.5 out of 10

For more gundam fights, and martial arts!

[duotiga]

Originally Posted by Gundam Pilot

I rate G Gundam: 8.5 out of 10

For more gundam fights, and martial arts!

Gundam Fight-o ...Ready.....GO!!!!!

i like the storyline for G Gundam also.....some scenes are quite touching.....

[Eidolon Sniper]

Originally Posted by Gundam Pilot

I rate G Gundam: 8.5 out of 10

For more gundam fights, and martial arts!

Do not underestimate the power of TRUE LOVE!

[AlphaDragoon]

I liked this series a lot, myself. The God Gundam was one of my favorite designs (and had one of my favorite offenses for a Gundam via the Shining Finger/Bakaretsu God Finger). Plus I liked that the pilots could whoop ass outside of their robots, and the battles themselves were crazy near the end (the championship fights in HK). I also happen to like Rain more than any Gundam female with the exception of Lacus.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Wing debuted a week after God Gundam so they put in in their as a teaser.

[megakim]

and had one of my favorite offenses for a Gundam via the Shining Finger/Bakaretsu God Finger

It is one of the more memorable attacks but imo it cannot beat Guy from Gaogaigair. HIKARI NI NARE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kenjiharima]

G Gundam is the series I like the best. The story has alot of heart, the characters are very well developed and the this series created the wrost and best designs of Gundam. Damn!!! I can't stress out how Master Asia's Gundam is SOOOO BAD ASS!!! >_< I'm just sad that Shining Gundam was replaced by God/Burning and Rising Gundam. And an added note this is the only series that is so tragic Domon had to kill 2 or 3 of the most important people in his life. Master Asia, Swartz and Kyoji dying inside the Devil/Dark Gundam. Tell me who didn't not cry when Master Asia died and Domon was force to kill his brother?

Some say G is lined up as a super robot gundam, but inmho any gundam series created is a real robot to me. So if the Seki-Ha-Ten-Kyo-Ken looks like a super fireball of Ryu passed on a mecha well their must be some reason why God and Master gundam can create those powerfull blast.

As for gundam spegiel imho is above the agility level of God, yet it has a weak armor due that when it was chraging the devil gundam it got blown piece by piece OMG and those where only vulcans!! But as for God/burning Gundam it had many hits from the devil I was'nt damage scared with black tint, but was never damage. Master Asia said he could beat Swartz with the Sekiha-ten-kyoken and so he did.

Allenby and Rain are my favs babes in G. I just love 'em

One thing though...why does Chibodee remind me of Logan? XD (Xmen) Either way Gundam Maxter is one of my favs 'cause it's like a coboy with guns, can surf with it's hover, has brass knuckles like a thug, boost up to gloves like a boxer and the armor is like a football players uniform.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Some say G is lined up as a super robot gundam, but inmho any gundam series created is a real robot to me.

The distinction between real robot and super robot shows is an artificial one created by the Super Robot Wars games. There's no reason to take it very seriously at all; and if one were to make a concious attempt to categorize mecha shows, then the vast majority of Gundam shows would fit under the category of super robot.

As for G Gundam, it's probably best to think of it in terms of a mecha-based wuxia story. After all, the names, character archetypes, and even many of the moves are taken straight from kung-fu novels.

[Derringer]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

The distinction between real robot and super robot shows is an artificial one created by the Super Robot Wars games. There's no reason to take it very seriously at all; and if one were to make a concious attempt to categorize mecha shows, then the vast majority of Gundam shows would fit under the category of super robot.

As for G Gundam, it's probably best to think of it in terms of a mecha-based wuxia story. After all, the names, character archetypes, and even many of the moves are taken straight from kung-fu novels.

Back when Gundam first came out, it was considered a "real robot" show because the show depicted robots as devices used by the military, instead of some kid getting magical powers and being able to pilot a robot who had rocket fists (shows like Mazinger, etc).

Super Robot now seems to refer to anything that is more capable than Asimo.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by Derringer

Back when Gundam first came out, it was considered a "real robot" show because the show depicted robots as devices used by the military, instead of some kid getting magical powers and being able to pilot a robot who had rocket fists (shows like Mazinger, etc).

That's incorrect. Originally, when Mobile Suit Gundam first aired, it was hailed as a more realistic approach than it's predecessors, but it wasn't called a "real robot". I believe that this latter term was first coined (and the etymological dichotomy created) by the Super Robot Wars to distinguish the supposedly"more realistic" machines from the more fantastic ones. If you were to scrutinize the matter further, the line between super robots and real robots is just about nonexistent if we go by the Super Robot Wars classifications. A more honest approach would be to simply categorize the shows as either semi-realistic and the completely fantastic. In the latter case, there would be very, very few mecha anime that would fall outside of the fantastic category. I doubt that any of the Gundam TV shows would.

[kenjiharima]

Hmm...if the devil gundam has cells...it's an organic robot that can regenerate and self resurect. Can it be also classified as a humanoid robot similar to Eva and others? But a Gundam is a Gundam it's still a semi realistic robot no classified as RR.

[brightman]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Hmm...if the devil gundam has cells...it's an organic robot that can regenerate and self resurect. Can it be also classified as a humanoid robot similar to Eva and others? But a Gundam is a Gundam it's still a semi realistic robot no classified as RR.

Devil Gundam cells are actually nanomachines and are non-biological in nature. Therefore, DG isn't typically considered organic, unlike the Evas which are in fact grown from biological components.

[Derringer]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

That's incorrect. Originally, when Mobile Suit Gundam first aired, it was hailed as a more realistic approach than it's predecessors, but it wasn't called a "real robot". I believe that this latter term was first coined (and the etymological dichotomy created) by the Super Robot Wars to distinguish the supposedly"more realistic" machines from the more fantastic ones. If you were to scrutinize the matter further, the line between super robots and real robots is just about nonexistent if we go by the Super Robot Wars classifications. A more honest approach would be to simply categorize the shows as either semi-realistic and the completely fantastic. In the latter case, there would be very, very few mecha anime that would fall outside of the fantastic category. I doubt that any of the Gundam TV shows would.

You have got to be kidding me. Encyclopedias and articles covering anime have always pointed out Mobile Suit Gundam as one of the titles that ushered in the "real robot" genre. There's a VERY obvious difference between the Getter Robo and the Mobile Suit Gundam.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Hmm...if the devil gundam has cells...it's an organic robot that can regenerate and self resurect. Can it be also classified as a humanoid robot similar to Eva and others? But a Gundam is a Gundam it's still a semi realistic robot no classified as RR.

As brightman said, the DG cells are mechanical, so Devil Gundam wouldn't count as an organic machine. However, I don't even think that the classification is really all that important at all. After all, the abilities and functions of a machine are rather more important than its nomenclature.

As for the Real Robot bit, based on the Super Robot Wars classification, most Gundams count as Real Robots. However, there often isn't a whole lot of difference in terms of realism between Gundams and some Super Robots. For example, There's nothing even vaguely realistic about forcefields powered by the souls of dead people. That's why I don't think that such a dichotomy is all that meaningful outside of being used in a game.

Originally Posted by Derringer

You have got to be kidding me. Encyclopedias and articles covering anime have always pointed out Mobile Suit Gundam as one of the titles that ushered in the "real robot" genre. There's a VERY obvious difference between the Getter Robo and the Mobile Suit Gundam.

It's true that Mobile Suit Gundam was the first of the more realistic mecha shows. However, the gist of my argument is quite different: the distinction between Super Robots and Real Robots (and I believe the etymology of "Real Robot" to begin with) was first posited by Super Robot Wars as a game mechanic. While there's a big difference between Getter Robo and the RX-78, there's also a big difference between Zeta Gundam and a Patlabor, and there's not a whole lot of difference between ZZ and some of the Godannar machines.

[Derringer]

The real and super robot genres apply directly to the anime/manga in question not the actual robot, though the portrayal of the robot does help.

WHaaa-? ZZ and Godannar? I don't recall the ZZ being able to merge with other robots and being able to do the Fire Soul Breaker. More importantly...ZZ HAS NO HOT BLOOD.

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by Derringer

The real and super robot genres apply directly to the anime/manga in question not the actual robot, though the portrayal of the robot does help.

You're not quite correct. While Real Robot and Super Robot exist as sub-genre of overarching mecha shows, the origin of such designations stem from Super Robot Wars where it was used primarily to denote individual machines. If you want to be precise, a Real Robot show would be one that features Real Robots, and likewise for Super Robot shows. As far as I'm concerned, such categorization can be misleading, especially since the boundary between the two is quite often unclear. At the best of times, it's not a particularly helpful distinction.

Originally Posted by Derringer

WHaaa-? ZZ and Godannar? I don't recall the ZZ being able to merge with other robots and being able to do the Fire Soul Breaker. More importantly...ZZ HAS NO HOT BLOOD.

While ZZ doesn't combine with other mobile suits, it's made up of multiple combining vehicles, so I think that the distinction is very slight. None of the mecha other than Godannar can do the Fire Soul Breaker either, so I'm not sure what your point is. Finally, while I seem to recall Judau (and others) having the odd hotblooded moment, I'm not going to quibble with you. However, since when was hot blood an important difference between ZZ and the machines in Godannar? Heck, there were plenty that operated fine without hot blood at all.

[Derringer]

The designation did NOT come as a result of SRW. Where are you getting that information from?

EDIT: Ah forget it, I'm probably just too old and have been behind the times =/

[kenjiharima]

ZZ Gundam has that hyper slash similar to Shinning's Shinning Finger Sword...point here is the most realistic Gundam is ZZ then?