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View Poll Results: Valkyria Chronicles - Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 5 | 15.63% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 6 | 18.75% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 7 | 21.88% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 21.88% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 12.50% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 3.13% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 3.13% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 3.13% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll |
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2009-06-27, 00:39 | Link #41 | |
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2009-06-27, 02:10 | Link #42 | |
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Only in rare cases anime surpasses original (Kannagi, Hatsukoi Limited), usually it is other way round. It is always a problem to animate original, but it is not true that all animations require changes or else 'it won't be interesting to watch the same thing over and over again', as such animes like Haruhi are pretty clearly denying such groundless claims as Haruhi follows novels line-by-line and is still incredibly popular. The key is a good quality of work while animating it. Novel writers are usually on completely different talent scale compared to anime script writers, so it is very rare for anime script-writers to make the script better. Even more problems rise when you animate the game (best example would be Kimikiss, on how extremely popular game in Japan, turned into very unpopular anime). Thats the problem with VC too. Studio does not have enough financial resources to be a real adaptation of VC game - if it would a real VC animation then we would be seeing a hell lot more battle scenes, and those cost more money as require more animation frames. So they do what they can with their limited resources. It's not a super-duper hit Evangelion with GAINAX at the wheel so they can spend huge amounts of money on Rebuild after all. It still doesn't make VC excusable for some stuff they do though. I mean come on inviting a pig and an almost completely unimportant tsundere brat or Isara (knowing her background) into what is supposed to be a high-class ball is too much. Even Welkin and Faldio should not be such big-shots as well since looking logically they did not win all that many battles. What they are doing here is just silly and not even in a funny sense. And justinstrife, I am with you on that one. With such 'friends' like Faldio, who need enemies? He doesn't even seem to know Welkin all that well (based on his recent conversation). |
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2009-06-27, 02:48 | Link #43 | |
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That being said, I haven't played the game. |
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2009-06-27, 03:52 | Link #44 | |
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2009-06-27, 04:30 | Link #45 | |
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I found that preview with Zaka and Rosie a bit scary. Is that a bit of skirt-lifting I see there?! |
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2009-06-27, 11:13 | Link #47 | ||
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I agree that the anime shouldn't be made solely for the game community and should try to get a new audience, but it shouldn't be done at the expense of making the game players think, "What the hell is this crap?" As I've said several times I had hoped they'd expand upon certain things we didn't see in the game. Like episode 9 with Selvaria chasing after Max, I felt, was exactly for what I had hoped; an expansion upon a relationship and part of the story of which we don't see a ton. It gives some more meaning to later portions of the story from the game now having seen that episode and their relationship. Quote:
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2009-06-27, 11:28 | Link #48 | |
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I wasn't talking about deviating from the source material as some sort of broad concept, I was talking about my own personal experiences with this show. I never said that "all animations require changes" to be unique and interesting; I simply said that whatever they did change here seems to be working for me (and, apparently, some others who've never played the game). The "novel writers are usually on completely different talent scale compared to anime script writers" comment is pretty specious as well, since many of the writers are in fact writers in other media, and many of the changes people deplore so much were made in collaboration with the original writers and editorial staff (sometimes at their request!). I can't help but feel like these are mostly stereotypes to support your "the original is almost always better" argument, which is more personal preference than anything else. If you look at sales, the jury is still out; shows have sold extremely well either way. It depends. Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. But now that you understand the sort of adaptation this is, are you really going to keep holding it against the show at every single turn? There's nothing wrong with being disappointed, but it's going to be a bit "broken record" if you keep with the same complaint all the way 'till the end. I'd like to also think that I set my expectations reasonably given what I knew of the show's premise, and I've been pleasantly surprised. So I, for one, don't think the show is doing something so "wrong", even if it apparently is different. *shrug* |
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2009-06-27, 13:29 | Link #49 | |
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2009-06-27, 14:57 | Link #50 | |
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It's a shame that they decided to put love drama in the anime, something that doesnt happen in the game luckily. Ah well, I suppose it's to compensate for the lack of action we've been getting so far. |
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2009-06-27, 15:10 | Link #51 |
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I also don't like that Faldio in episode 12...
And this episode to me kind of makes a turn around of this series, before the series was at or above average, but this episode makes me feel a lot more interested in this series once again I also admit that I come to only watch the main heroine ...the staff draws her quite well
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2009-06-27, 17:50 | Link #52 | |
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2009-06-27, 20:33 | Link #53 |
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Whoa, there's not a lot of love for Faldio, is there.
I don't see how he's a bad friend for openly communicating with Faldio his thoughts and feelings. If anything, that makes a GOOD friend. Faldio likes Alicia. He wonders if Welkin likes Alicia, and so he asks. Less chance of misunderstandings this way. I think that just straightly watching the anime without prior biases based on the game or other sources will enhance the viewing pleasure for people, and honestly, just off the anime, Faldio comes across as a straight shooter if a bit of a flirt. All the hate flying his way makes me think you guys know something I don't (e.g. Faldio ends up betraying Welkin). |
2009-06-28, 03:21 | Link #54 |
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I don't dislike Faldio in this, though i can easily understand why most of you do. He just doesn't push the wrong buttons for me, and instead i like where they're going with him in the story. My prediction seems to be all the more true as each episode passes by.
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2009-06-28, 10:14 | Link #55 | ||
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But yeah, it appears that a lot of people expected what you expected -- I mean, there's a Weapons and Technology thread in here (probably more to do with the game), and I've hardly seen any of that in the show besides Isara working on the tanks. Quote:
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2009-06-28, 16:16 | Link #56 | ||
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2009-07-04, 06:00 | Link #60 | |
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If your answer is civilian, I may understand your point. If you are someone who served in the army or in other executive force by your state, then the answer is incorrect. As as soldier - what Welkin is - you are obliged to save casualties to a point where you are forced to kill. Welkin could have made a lethal shot. From the size difference between the guy and Alicia he could have made an easy headshot. But his decision just to wound him was in acceptance of Alicia. Therefore a nice teamwork and a wise decision. And in addition they enough evidence that the Alliance won' t start a second kidnapping. Nonetheless my opinion to episode 12: Very good realization of "The foe of my foe is my friend".
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