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Old 2013-04-25, 09:31   Link #13381
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One has to wonder, though. How do Zen's Zero's fit into all that? He has skills, but his mentality and such is neither plus nor minus.

Because a Zero is basically a skill to have that exact same description apply to Zenkichi when he was a teenager.
Devil Style neutralized fate and Model Zenkichi simply allowed Zenkichi to perceive his own limits.

So how did he lose that?
TBF Zenkichi's abilities weren't really abilities let alone his, in a world where plus and minus abilities barely exist so don't have any effect on fate, then Devil style is always in effect, after percieving your limits after a period of time you know your limits and you could figure out those limits through hardwork anyway. Those abilities don't really do anything for Zenkichi anymore he already lives in world he always wanted, where hardwork determines most of the success a person achieves.
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Old 2013-04-25, 10:03   Link #13382
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Shit happens. That's all the explanation needed lol.
Or he doesn't give a shit anymore, take you pick
Aw, do I have to choose?

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TBF Zenkichi's abilities weren't really abilities let alone his, in a world where plus and minus abilities barely exist so don't have any effect on fate, then Devil style is always in effect, after percieving your limits after a period of time you know your limits and you could figure out those limits through hardwork anyway. Those abilities don't really do anything for Zenkichi anymore he already lives in world he always wanted, where hardwork determines most of the success a person achieves.
I don't really understand your wording, but are you saying that he lost both his skills because they became redundant?

Because that would be the explanation I'd use. Kinda like how, even though Parasite Seeing is a skill compatible with his personality, it ultimately became redundant to him during the election, because he didn't need it to understand people completely anymore(hence the speech).
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Old 2013-04-25, 10:10   Link #13383
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Well as far as endings go, it wasn't bad. it was a fun series, and I'll miss it, this series definitely had some great characters so it'll be sad to see them go, ah well.


tho I'm a little anal that we never found out fully what happened in Junior High...or what Fukurou was going to say before he got sliced in half...
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Old 2013-04-25, 10:42   Link #13384
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Th last pic was nice, I noticed that both Medaka and Zen were wearing the presidents armband, till the end he managed to spend beside Medaka as equals.
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Old 2013-04-25, 10:44   Link #13385
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Also count me in on the dislike for the Japanese obsession with thinking adolescence/teenage years are apparently the best part of a life span that lasts decades. But that is largely due to their culture and how screwed up things get beyond their teenage years in society. So if nothing else, I do understand why they never seem to let that period of life go.
Never have truer words been spoken. It's a given any work set in those years will try to ram an overstated nostalgia down your mouth at the end. But yeah, it's a representation of the hard life japanese expect after it (ffs, they're all thinking about marrying at 23!), someone should do a thesis about it it's truly something pertaining to them, and we aren't as able to "get" that feeling, being westeners.
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Old 2013-04-25, 10:47   Link #13386
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tho I'm a little anal that we never found out fully what happened in Junior High...or what Fukurou was going to say before he got sliced in half...
Oh, thank God. I'm not the only one!

I also have to mention, that besides that, we never found out Nienami's deal.

But, I'm sure this series was canned, so it makes sense that Nishio had to rush an ending and leave all of those open.
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Old 2013-04-25, 10:53   Link #13387
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Ya know this suddenly occured to me but I'm kind of curious...what would happen if Medaka and Zen's duel ended in a tie? Knowing how they are I can't imagine they'd be satisfied and just get married anyway
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Old 2013-04-25, 12:50   Link #13388
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wonderful ending. I'm happy.
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Old 2013-04-25, 13:28   Link #13389
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Well as far as endings go, it wasn't bad. it was a fun series, and I'll miss it, this series definitely had some great characters so it'll be sad to see them go, ah well.


tho I'm a little anal that we never found out fully what happened in Junior High...or what Fukurou was going to say before he got sliced in half...
There's the Fanbook
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Old 2013-04-25, 17:16   Link #13390
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And so it ends.

sigh

So many ups and downs.

Wonder what their next project will be?
Hope there's ecchi in it

I'll stick around for GLK and the fanbook info.
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Old 2013-04-25, 20:33   Link #13391
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I don't really get alot of this stuff about skills going away and such but in the end... they where just suffering from chuunibyou right?
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Old 2013-04-25, 22:18   Link #13392
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Ya know this suddenly occured to me but I'm kind of curious...what would happen if Medaka and Zen's duel ended in a tie? Knowing how they are I can't imagine they'd be satisfied and just get married anyway
Well since they both would lose (and win) he would have to marry her and she would have to marry him.
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Old 2013-04-26, 00:56   Link #13393
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but in the end... they where just suffering from chuunibyou right?
What about a Moon?
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Old 2013-04-26, 01:05   Link #13394
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What about a Moon?
Was there even a moon to begin with? I've never seen such a thing. More importantly that wierd kinda open place where kumigawa and anshin'in are missing makes me feel like they may go somewhere with this. I'd love to read a story about those two, and no one else from Medaka Box is invited!
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Old 2013-04-26, 01:06   Link #13395
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Was there even a moon to begin with? I've never seen such a thing. More importantly that wierd kinda open place where kumigawa and anshin'in are missing makes me feel like they may go somewhere with this. I'd love to read a story about those two, and no one else from Medaka Box is invited!
Jump Square spinoff, believe.
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Old 2013-04-26, 03:03   Link #13396
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Was there even a moon to begin with? I've never seen such a thing. More importantly that wierd kinda open place where kumigawa and anshin'in are missing makes me feel like they may go somewhere with this. I'd love to read a story about those two, and no one else from Medaka Box is invited!
I really like kumagawa and anshin'in but light novels would be good enough. I'm not that crazy like most kumagawa fans that at some point it reminds me of bieber fans. At least not yet right? Light novels that would have to do with only Kumagawa would be really great and no one else invited? They better have Nienami.
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Old 2013-04-26, 03:54   Link #13397
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I was just wondering.... since Zen can't use skills anymore..... does that mean his back to be blinded now?
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Old 2013-04-26, 04:44   Link #13398
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A couple of Kumagawa x Ashinin can be considered confirmed? I would be happy.
I already want to see a Medaka Box:After story.Moon plan or Medaka Box:Next generation.
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Old 2013-04-26, 05:15   Link #13399
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I was just wondering.... since Zen can't use skills anymore..... does that mean his back to be blinded now?
No because the cause of his blindness is a skill as well.
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Old 2013-04-26, 08:27   Link #13400
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I was just wondering.... since Zen can't use skills anymore..... does that mean his back to be blinded now?
He should've lost it when Shiranui morphed Parasite Seeing into Model Zenkichi, anyway. Nishio don't give no damn.
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