Danganronpa - Episode 6 Discussion / Poll

[Jan-Poo]

Originally Posted by hamazura

double killing kirigiri + togami = instant win

You mean Naegi? Togami picked the wrong person in the first trial and the second trial he even messed with the crime scene.

I'm not even sure what Togami was thinking there, apart from the fact that he witnessed the culprit, did he have an actual proof that he could show?

Because after everyone pointed him as the culprit because of his meddling I doubt he could have said "Ha! You fell for my trick, the real culprit is Owada" and then expect everyone to believe him.

At the same time I have no idea why he is so calm about Genocider Shou considering she is armed, she is crazy, she kills the guys that she thinks are hot, and she clearly thinks he is hot.

Finally he is confident that he will get out alive from there.


Is all of that a sign of intelligence or an irrational overconfidence dictated by his pride?

[Anh_Minh]

Or he's the mole and believes, rightly or wrongly, that Monokuma won't let anything happen to him.

[White Manju Bun]

Originally Posted by Marina2

For example: A Smart person probably won't fall into a trap like a paper with message "hey, can you come to my room alone at night, I have something to talk with you" (like Maizano message to Leon) BUT if a culpit somehow manage to trick the smart victim, a culpit must be equally skilled/smart person).

Kinda going along with this, when Shaman Guy knocks on Naegi's door and he just willingly opens it. Given what's been happening Im surprised they do that

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Or he's the mole and believes, rightly or wrongly, that Monokuma won't let anything happen to him.

Heh, now that's interesting.

[irsyahma]

Originally Posted by Sute443

Still not buying it. My working theory is that all the stuff like the letters, the laptop, and Alter-Ego were deliberately put out there by the kidnappers to mess with the captives.

There's a proof that Fujisaki is the one who design Alter Ego. It's in episode 4 at 15:23

Screenshot:

Spoiler:

[Jan-Poo]

What I don't buy is that Monokuma left a room without any kind of surveillance. What are the chances that it simply slipped his mind and that he is fine with that?

I think those guys are simply stupid for thinking that it is safe to talk there, and you'd think that Kirigiri wouldn't be so naive.

That looks more like another of Monokuma's prank to me, just another way to give them hope only to crush it later.

[White Manju Bun]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

What I don't buy is that Monokuma left a room without any kind of surveillance. What are the chances that it simply slipped his mind and that he is fine with that?

I thought that as well, but then it also didnt surprise me that Fujisaki would have noticed something like that and left AE there.

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

What I don't buy is that Monokuma left a room without any kind of surveillance. What are the chances that it simply slipped his mind and that he is fine with that?

I think those guys are simply stupid for thinking that it is safe to talk there, and you'd think that Kirigiri wouldn't be so naive.

That looks more like another of Monokuma's prank to me, just another way to give them hope only to crush it later.

After thinking about it, if someone manages to be not found out in the trials and thus survive the school alone, wouldn't it be very likely that Monokuma just says "Hahaha, now you 'graduate'... from life! Hahaha feel the despair" or something like that? Monokuma doesn't seem like a person who would be nice to the last survivor...

[Klashikari]

Additional thing you would notice in the game: All of the restrooms, Bathroom and Sauna do not have any camera either.
Basically, all hygiene facilities are devoid of surveillance. It isn't just only the bathroom changing room.

[irsyahma]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

What I don't buy is that Monokuma left a room without any kind of surveillance. What are the chances that it simply slipped his mind and that he is fine with that?

I think those guys are simply stupid for thinking that it is safe to talk there, and you'd think that Kirigiri wouldn't be so naive.

That looks more like another of Monokuma's prank to me, just another way to give them hope only to crush it later.

That a bathroom right? That's way it's kinda foggy because of hot water fog and pointless to set a surveilance camera there. But maybe the room it is a trap from Monokuma to give them a hope and eventually crush it with despair.

[Solitaired]

No. That's a locker room which is linked to the bathrooms. In Japan, it is a custom to undressed fully in the locker/changing rooms before going to the bathrooms. In the previous case, Monokuma placed a machine gun outside the gyms to prevent males from going into the female gyms, and vice-versa. Monokuma is very strict against any form of sexual interactions. He can't put cameras in the locker room as that means that he will be able to see inside the locker room himself, thus violating his own rules.

[Jan-Poo]

Let's even say that Monokuma is strict about nudity and doesn't want to watch naked people, that still doesn't mean he didn't bug the rooms.

BTW the first murder happened inside Naegi's bathroom, the second murder happened in a changing room. Are you saying that Monokuma didn't see either?

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

Let's even say that Monokuma is strict about nudity and doesn't want to watch naked people, that still doesn't mean he didn't bug the rooms.

BTW the first murder happened inside Naegi's bathroom, the second murder happened in a changing room. Are you saying that Monokuma didn't see either?

There wasn't any camera inside Makoto's bathroom. Monokuma could only see Sayaka and Leon's struggle in the room, and potentially the actual murder if the door was left wide open.

The changing rooms of the pool are equipped with camera, although these rooms are also used as a fitness one (lifting weights etc). Whether or not it is really an exception or because of the latter usage is up to interpretation.

[Anh_Minh]

So what happens if three people go into one of those blind spots, and only two come out? How does Monokuma judge if the trial got the right answer or if someone can graduate?

[Sute443]

Originally Posted by irsyahma

There's a proof that Fujisaki is the one who design Alter Ego. It's in episode 4 at 15:23

Screenshot:

Spoiler:

That just shows that Fujisaki was working on something, not that he managed to finish an AI in the short amount of time between finding the laptop and getting murdered.

That said, I'm willing to accept for story purposes that Fujisaki made Alter-Ego. I think it's stupid and a waste of a potentially awesome plot twist, but I acknowledge that the story probably means for Alter-Ego to be genuine.

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

What I don't buy is that Monokuma left a room without any kind of surveillance. What are the chances that it simply slipped his mind and that he is fine with that?

I think those guys are simply stupid for thinking that it is safe to talk there, and you'd think that Kirigiri wouldn't be so naive.

Or that she's the mole and is acting under orders to trick the rest of the group.

Originally Posted by GreyZone

After thinking about it, if someone manages to be not found out in the trials and thus survive the school alone, wouldn't it be very likely that Monokuma just says "Hahaha, now you 'graduate'... from life! Hahaha feel the despair" or something like that? Monokuma doesn't seem like a person who would be nice to the last survivor...

Seems likely. When trying to get a reward from a bad guy, always make sure you know beforehand exactly what the reward is.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

So what happens if three people go into one of those blind spots, and only two come out? How does Monokuma judge if the trial got the right answer or if someone can graduate?

Monokuma can still physically appear somewhere, and also ask questions.

[Jan-Poo]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Monokuma can still physically appear somewhere, and also ask questions.

The physically appearing part doesn't solve the issue. A murder could happen without a previous notice in one of the rooms without camera, and unless Monokuma shows up physically in every of those rooms whenever more than one person is inside, it is still possible that he won't see a murder when it happens. Of course if he did that, that would defy the whole purpose of not having camera to respect privacy or whatever.

As for the questions part, I assume that Monokuma won't ask in front of anyone who killed who. That would be pretty stupid. He should rather meet the persons that were in the room at the time of the crime and ask them questions individually.

Of course if someone killed to "graduate" there's no way he'd deny that he was the culprit in front of Monokuma, but the innocent one could take that as an opportunity to graduate without actually killing anyone directly. So Monokuma could well find himself in the situation where there are two or more people claiming to be the culprit, and how would he determine who's telling the truth?

Of course, this is a very unlikely scenario, but still possible.

[White Manju Bun]

I think it just need to be chalked up to he's Monokuma so anything is possible

[jeroz]

Originally Posted by Sute443

Or that she's the mole and is acting under orders to trick the rest of the group..

Inb4 they are both moles, and this is just like the game werewolf.
Considering they are like the best teammates for the mc, this would be fun twist

[GreyZone]

Sudden Plot twist: Naegi is the mole!

Well that would certainly be unexpected.

[Haiprbim]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

Sudden Plot twist: Naegi is the mole!

Well that would certainly be unexpected.

Note that Danganronpa isn't that deep or strong, so mostly everything that is shown to us goes.
Naegi is constantly being shown to us, just like at the "Dark and Embarrassing Secrets" arc, we get to see his secret right away, and no one else's.
He is meant to be the "Pure guy".