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Perfect 10 | 151 | 66.23% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 39 | 17.11% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 19 | 8.33% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 4.39% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 1.75% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.44% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 4 | 1.75% | |
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2009-02-15, 15:48 | Link #381 |
floating away...
Join Date: Oct 2007
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May be i look as an Ami hater, im not, actually i like it, but, i think that she is doing the same mistake of a lot of female characters of this kind of titles/mangas/anime...
If she is in love of someone... WHY THE HELL SHE DOESN'T TELL HIM THAT!!! She is suffering and make suffer the people who likes her. But she is taking the bad approach to this, just mumbling some phrases to a guy like Ryuuji will not make any difference...
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2009-02-15, 15:52 | Link #382 |
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Kołobrzeg (Poland)
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2009-02-15, 16:18 | Link #384 | |
Homo Ludens
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canada
Age: 34
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The show should make it clearer by at least episode 21... |
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2009-02-15, 16:22 | Link #386 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The Netherlands
Age: 35
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If he gets together with Minorin, she won't be able to be the one to stand beside Ryuuji anymore and she doesn't want that. Seeing her actions after realizing this though, I think it's pretty clear how she really feels.
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2009-02-15, 16:28 | Link #387 | |
緩和
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Minori is great and I like her alot, but I personally think shes way too over the top and unusual in terms of compatibility with Ryuuji. If anyone's been paying any remote attention to his reactions and attentiveness towards Minori, wouldn't you think its nothing more than a crush? "But Ryuuji's had a crush on her since the beginning!" So what? Does that mean that just because hes had a crush on her that that suddenly makes Minori the one who was mean't for him? I personally think he will eventually be able to distinguish the difference between his crush (Minori) and whom I think he will eventually fall in love with (Taiga.) Episode 19 has shown a big hint in development as far as that, being that he went out of his way to prioritize seeing and being with Taiga on Christmas Eve more than he did his potential meeting with Minori. Had Taiga not literally forced or pushed Ryuuji out the door to go meet Minori, he would have stayed at Taiga's place. As far as Ami, well, I'll try not to sound too biased being that I don't particularly care for her, but shes just way too self centered. Just as someone had already mentioned as well, she doesn't make any effort to allow others to get to know her "good" side and perhaps develop anything towards her, its only because shes been put in situations against her control. I grant her that she has indeed improved alot throughout the series for the better, but where does it make any sense to suddenly think or expect Ami to be parable with Ryuuji? She didn't waste any time developing a crush on Ryuuji, and that tells me alot about her. If she genuinely had feelings to Ryuuji, don't you think she would have put more effort to get to know him better and perhaps develop some sort of a connection with him before she declares her "feelings" for him? I think she cares about him no doubt about it, but I would hardly call it love. Ryuuji doesn't seem to have any romantic interest in Ami either, for that matter. Please forgive my post if it seems heated. I've just become frustrated when people are simply so oblivious to the obvious character developments. Everyone is however certainly entitled to their own opinion and of course each are respectable in their own ways Last edited by Janifuu; 2009-02-15 at 16:39. |
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2009-02-15, 16:54 | Link #388 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Warsaw, PL
Age: 46
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"Ami: Ryuuji, I love you. Ryuuji: Taaaiga! Ami is teasing me again!" With dynamics these two share I doubt Ami has any chance to get to him anytime soon. |
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2009-02-15, 17:58 | Link #392 | |
Let's Puppystyle!
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Best Place In The WORLD
Age: 32
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on a more serious note, i'm hoping for a big twist at the end! i want to be surprised, i don't want the obvious ending, but if they're gonna do a twist, they better pull it off well better yet make some ovas with endings for each character ;P, jk that would suck |
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2009-02-15, 18:21 | Link #394 |
In the Tatami Galaxy ↓
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I think you've become frustrated with people who disagree with you.
I wasn't saying she didn't have character development. But she has a lot more character development simply because hers is the most obvious. That doesn't mean Ami or Minori had less, it just means they weren't shown. It can be assumed, however, that all of them have profoundly changed throughout the course of the series. You're agreeing primarily with the author's bias and I'm primarily disagreeing with it, which is free game (ever since the author died in postmodern analyses). It simply doesn't follow that Taiga has the most character development simply because she's the one featured by the series most. I disagree with that sentiment. Ryuuji's also the guy who faces an existing reality with a poker face and often, despite his idealism, doesn't really recognize pipe-dreams. Taiga was an extant reality. She was there, he appreciated what she did, and he wanted to help her. With Minori it was all a pipe-dream: it could come true, but it also could not. Rather than dwelling in dreams, he wanted to help her, and he did. Ami has been self-centered. It was her initial premise. If you failed to see that she's gone a long way since then, however, then that's not my fault. She's subtle with Ryuuji primarily because she recognizes the futility of her actions: at the onset, even at her very arrival, she was already the outsider, the Camus-ian stranger. She was never a central part of the group, and she learnt to deal with that. That doesn't lessen her character or its development, however. Let's cheer to opinion, though. Disagreement is one of the mothers of invention (alongside some other things ).
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2009-02-15, 20:40 | Link #397 | |
緩和
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Absolutely I will agree with the authors bias because uh, well, its the authors story lol. In order to have a better understanding of each characters progression and the overall direction of the story, you need to understand the authors intent. Kaisos Erranon stated it very well, it holds much more weight in examining a story when following the mind of the author as opposed to what the readers themselves follow. Again, I certainly have no problem agreeing to disagree, so long as its within reasoning and mutual understanding Last edited by Janifuu; 2009-02-15 at 20:55. |
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2009-02-15, 22:12 | Link #398 | ||
In the Tatami Galaxy ↓
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I'm not shipping, though. Don't mistake my reprehension of Taiga as blatant support for Ami or Minori. My other posts speak about the author having a lot to do to prove Taiga worthy to me as a viewer. I'm not denying Taiga's progress as well. I'm full well open to the path that the anime would take me. (Before this argument can be twisted, the 'death of the author' is a manner of reading literally. What I'm pertaining to in this post is that the author, the writer herself, has quite a lot to do to rally me over to Taiga's side. Otherwise, it's going to be simply bad writing, and my 'death of the author' reading would stand a lot better.) Quote:
I do believe what I've been writing and I'm currently writing is within rational reasoning. People have yet to tell me otherwise.
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