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susyia · 2011-12-02, 19:18

hey anyone know where i can find the Novel of gundam wing? have 5 vol.... i want to compare the diferences between the novel and the anime anyone knows???

Eeni · 2011-12-02, 20:00

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Originally Posted by IkuzeMinna

Episode 26. What he says is this: "Who are you? You're from Earth. Am I right? Heero. Let's go to Earth."
For the longest time I believed Quatre was referring solely to Heero (meaning it was Heero who was born on Earth). But ever since I spotted those weird brown eyes and FT insinuated that the ZERO system might be based off someone's mind (or have a mind of its own, whatever), it got me thinking. For one, if Quatre is referring to the "Heart of Outer Space" in that scene it'd be kinda odd that it would originate from Earth, wouldn't it? Heero, too, was likely born on the colonies. So it must be the "mind" of Zero. This theory is further supported by Zero turning off the beam saber on its own, making Quatre give it a surprised look. Besides, it's not like the show isn't full of scenes which have Zero's eyes light up for a sec all on its own while someone (meaning Heero) is talking to it. So yeah, maybe Quatre's space heart picked up Zero's will/intentions/thoughts there?

My assumption was somewhat the same. Quatre was definitely referring to Heero as this elusive "space-hart" or someone who (like him) was really in-tuned to their surroundings. Quatre definitely sensed that Heero was thinking about Releena and decided that it be best to take Heero to her.

But, what is this "brown eye". I can't seem to remember this from anywhere. Was it in one of the manga or in the series?

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Am I the only one who's put off a little by the fact that Heero more or less killed Relena's dad in GoL? Considering she goes from thinking about her father to Heero in episode 5 (while she's holding a gun to her "kidnapper's" face), meaning they're similar to her for some reason, it's slightly odd/contradicting/downright weird that after that she'd be all "I'm fighting with you now, Heero". I mean, she wanted to shoot Une (or rather Treize) for his death. But now Heero is the one responsible. This either means weirdness or more changes.

WTF!!??!?! OZ being behind VFM Darlian's death is huge plot point of the story. Not only did her mentor die, allowing her to cross the threshold from ordinary girl to politician, but it also gave her a clear view of the enemy! How is she supposed to dislike OZ with this sequence of events? For that matter, why would she have any feelings for Heero (and his cause) if he caused her father's death?

Septum haves a cheap death now... the original was much more compelling (and made Une a badass).

Sumizawa is pulling a M. Night Shyamalan on the fans... what a shame.

Deacon Blues · 2011-12-02, 22:45

Guys, as of yet Darlian ISN'T dead. The building is just collapsing and he's shoving Relena out of the way. He's still more or less "whacked" by OZ if he does die though.

IkuzeMinna · 2011-12-03, 12:01

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Guys, as of yet Darlian ISN'T dead. The building is just collapsing and he's shoving Relena out of the way. He's still more or less "whacked" by OZ if he does die though.

Oh, okay. The way you put it made me think of Quatre's dad in the manga. The building he was in was attacked, too and he got crushed by rubble. I thought Darlian's case was similar.
Though I find that it still has a "Shinn! Heero! You almost killed my father! HOLD ME!" feel to it.

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Originally Posted by susyia

hey anyone know where i can find the Novel of gundam wing? have 5 vol.... i want to compare the differences between the novel and the anime anyone knows???

You can find the translations (not all of them though) here: link

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But, what is this "brown eye". I can't seem to remember this from anywhere. Was it in one of the manga or in the series?

On page 178, post #3549, is a screenshot of them. Those eyes showed up at the end of Zechs' and Heero's battle in Zero and Epyon, respectively. It's the aptly named episode 37 "Zero vs. Epyon".

EDIT:
Huh, look what I found. Mr. Winner's first name is given as "Zayeed" in the GW novel and FT, right? Turns out there's an Arabic honorific title "Sayyid" (variations include: Sayyidi, Sayyed, Sayid, Saiyyid, Saiyid, Sidi) which, according to Wikipedia, means "Mister". Meaning he's called "Mr. Mr. Winner" lol.
(There's also an Arabic name "Sa'id" which means happy, but it doesn't sound as close to Zayeed when I have Google translator read it.)

RRW · 2011-12-07, 14:24

so what this Snow white Seven dwarf thing? a Bit/funnel?

Miss Yuy · 2011-12-12, 11:53

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EDIT:
Huh, look what I found. Mr. Winner's first name is given as "Zayeed" in the GW novel and FT, right? Turns out there's an Arabic honorific title "Sayyid" (variations include: Sayyidi, Sayyed, Sayid, Saiyyid, Saiyid, Sidi) which, according to Wikipedia, means "Mister". Meaning he's called "Mr. Mr. Winner" lol.
(There's also an Arabic name "Sa'id" which means happy, but it doesn't sound as close to Zayeed when I have Google translator read it.)

Hi
I think you have some problems with Arabic language , It is a complex language beside there is a differance between Formal Arabic language and the Accent or pronounce that differ from country and other ,and even a city and other
Example : I want to study
I wanna study
See there is a difference in both reading and writing it is the same in Arabic language

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Hint : Arabic language contain more letters than English so it will be difficult for me to explain well

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(( Zayeed winner ))

First of all the spelling of " Zayeed " is wrong , It is " Zayid " or " Zayed " with one "E"
There is no need for "Zayeeeeeed "

and " Zayed " is from colloquial or public language so it can't be found in google translator or Wiki
it pronounce " Za-Ed " in formal Arabic language
there is no change in " Za " but you have to read " Ed " as if you read the word " Education "

"Zayed " or " Za-Ed " means : Extra , so much , more than it is needed

This is a male name and it is a symbol of welfare and Parents when name a child " Zayed " They hope that he has a Luxury Life

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The Word " Saiyed " means : " Sir "or " Lord "

It is a male name
" Saiyeda " for female
When Parents think of this name for thier baby they hope that he will be a lord or an important man

" Saiyed " isn't a public word ,it is only a boy name
But it is used in formal language in TV
Example : The Minister of Health Saiyed XXXXX has visited Paris

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Although "Mr / Mister " and " Sir " has the same meaning in English , It has different meaning in Arabic

" Mr "
" Ostaz " in Arabic
can't be a name of a child

It is used to call an embloyee , strange person and the teacher in arabic lessons only

(( We call the Teachers" Mr " and " Miss " in English except The Teacher of Arabic we have to call him " Ostaz " ))

So any strange person is called " Mr " before his name but The important person in TV called " Sir "

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In gundam wing

Rashid means : Reasonable or Wise man

Quatra, Rebarba and Maguanac are not arabic words
After all Japanese don't Know Arabic

I hope you understand my english

susyia · 2011-12-12, 15:03

Hey! i have a question ...i've been searching on the internet about 5 five pilots to see if they suffered any change in their personality in FT... because sooo many years has passed.... but i didnt found anything about quatre.... how is he doing? he's the same as the anime and manga? the only thing i know this far is his younger look ......

susyia · 2011-12-12, 15:07

you can find the translations (not all of them though) here: link

Oh Thanks !! i hope they translate the rest soon

Eeni · 2011-12-13, 04:04

Whoa! Thank you Miss Yuy for all that information! It's pretty cool finding all these roots for names and such in the series

Deacon Blues · 2011-12-17, 11:32

Since the manga is long out of print, does anyone know if Viz's scans of Chang Wufei's chapter from Episode Zero are around? I wanted to compare it to a scene from the Glory of Losers chapter... (then we can finally release Volume02).

Aldaeus · 2011-12-17, 18:45

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Since the manga is long out of print, does anyone know if Viz's scans of Chang Wufei's chapter from Episode Zero are around? I wanted to compare it to a scene from the Glory of Losers chapter... (then we can finally release Volume02).

I've got the Viz episode zero but I lack a scanner... what part of Wufei's chapter, i'll see if I can get it to you in picture form or something.

Eeni · 2011-12-19, 03:20

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Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Since the manga is long out of print, does anyone know if Viz's scans of Chang Wufei's chapter from Episode Zero are around? I wanted to compare it to a scene from the Glory of Losers chapter... (then we can finally release Volume02).

I've got my copy. I can scan it in for you if you still need it.

Deacon Blues · 2011-12-19, 10:26

I ordered another copy of Episode Zero. I searched high and low for mine.

It's odd... of all the Episode Zero scans I can find, WuFei's is the only one that doesn't have official scans. Poor guy can't win :P

Oh well. I was mainly checking this backstory to see if it was the same as the series, but me thinks it isn't. I don't remember WuFei and Meiran sitting together in a 'classroom' learning about justice from Master O.

Aldaeus · 2011-12-19, 10:49

No they dont, they argue at their wedding, wufei walks off she and he fight each other, Wufei wins... Master O and Wufei chat, alliance shows up Meilan goes out in the prototype leo, exct... battle happens Meilan saves Wufei, and proceeds to die next to him sitting in his meadow of flowers.

Deacon Blues · 2011-12-19, 11:27

Hm... I wouldn't want anyone to waste time scanning it. Maybe just typing out the dialogue would be easier :P

There was a site out there that had a transcript of it, but alas the archive site didn't save it :/

Eeni · 2011-12-19, 19:58

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Hm... I wouldn't want anyone to waste time scanning it. Maybe just typing out the dialogue would be easier :P

There was a site out there that had a transcript of it, but alas the archive site didn't save it :/

It wouldn't be a bother to scan it, its only like 13 (?) pages. Besides, I wouldn't mind helping out seeing as how you and others are working hard on translating GotD. I can whip up a PDF in a jiffy. ^_^

Aldaeus · 2011-12-19, 20:23

I typed out the chapter and sent it in a PM to you Deacon.

Tendou Souji · 2011-12-19, 21:38

Were there no pictures for the past chapter of Frozen Teardrop?

susyia · 2011-12-21, 09:16

hey look what i found!! there's ova gundam wing operation meteor i didin't know that exist
http://greenzombie.awardspace.com/gwoeom.html
i'm downloading now i hope i like

IkuzeMinna · 2011-12-21, 09:57

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Should anyone mention that OM is mostly a clip show...?

EDIT:
Also, thank you Miss Yuy for elaborating on Arabic names. It's always good to have natives clear things up. Though I'm not entirely sure if you proved or disproved my statement... or better say Wikipedia.

Talking about names, did anyone notice that James Clerk Maxwell (the Scottish physicist and mathematician, not Duo) was married to a woman called Katherine? These Catherines, they're everywhere!
Another funfact is that their marriage was a happy one, said to be "one of unexampled devotion". Makes one wonder if Sumizawa is being intentionally ironic here.

There's also a question I have. I understand that Hilde ran an orphanage on Mars to mirror the events of Duo's EpZ. What I don't understand is, where did the orphans come from? Isn't Mars a brand-new planet that had just recently been terraformed, thus making it slightly impossible for parentless kids to run around without even a war having taken place (iirc)? Unless they shipped them over, too I don't see how this could make much sense.

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I think we hadn't seen the pics from chap 13 yet, yes?

EDIT 3: wtf is wrong with Catherine's waist??? And Duo's! What the?!

2011-12-02, 22:45	Link #3703
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	Guys, as of yet Darlian ISN'T dead. The building is just collapsing and he's shoving Relena out of the way. He's still more or less "whacked" by OZ if he does die though. __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2011-12-13, 04:04	Link #3709
Eeni Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: refrigerator box	Whoa! Thank you Miss Yuy for all that information! It's pretty cool finding all these roots for names and such in the series __________________ There was never a great talent without a bit of insanity. I don't think I've ever seen so much nonsense in so little space. -FalsePrime Stone Age man attempted to draw movement on cave walls by drawing mammoths with multiple legs. The artists worked until their eyes went bad, they got no pay, no credit, and they were eventually eaten by wild animals. Animation was born! - Tom Sito And as the Black Beast lurched forward, escape for Arthur and his knights seemed hopeless, when suddenly, the animator suffered a fatal heart attack! The cartoon peril was no more. The quest for the Holy Grail could continue. - Monty Python and the Holy Grail

2011-12-17, 11:32	Link #3710
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	Since the manga is long out of print, does anyone know if Viz's scans of Chang Wufei's chapter from Episode Zero are around? I wanted to compare it to a scene from the Glory of Losers chapter... (then we can finally release Volume02). __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2011-12-19, 10:26	Link #3713
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	I ordered another copy of Episode Zero. I searched high and low for mine. It's odd... of all the Episode Zero scans I can find, WuFei's is the only one that doesn't have official scans. Poor guy can't win :P Oh well. I was mainly checking this backstory to see if it was the same as the series, but me thinks it isn't. I don't remember WuFei and Meiran sitting together in a 'classroom' learning about justice from Master O. __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2011-12-19, 11:27	Link #3715
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	Hm... I wouldn't want anyone to waste time scanning it. Maybe just typing out the dialogue would be easier :P There was a site out there that had a transcript of it, but alas the archive site didn't save it :/ __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2011-12-02, 19:18	Link #3701
susyia Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brazil	hey anyone know where i can find the Novel of gundam wing? have 5 vol.... i want to compare the diferences between the novel and the anime anyone knows???

2011-12-12, 15:03	Link #3707
susyia Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brazil	Hey! i have a question ...i've been searching on the internet about 5 five pilots to see if they suffered any change in their personality in FT... because sooo many years has passed.... but i didnt found anything about quatre.... how is he doing? he's the same as the anime and manga? the only thing i know this far is his younger look ......

2011-12-12, 15:07	Link #3708
susyia Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brazil	you can find the translations (not all of them though) here: link Oh Thanks !! i hope they translate the rest soon

2011-12-19, 10:49	Link #3714
Aldaeus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Behind you.	No they dont, they argue at their wedding, wufei walks off she and he fight each other, Wufei wins... Master O and Wufei chat, alliance shows up Meilan goes out in the prototype leo, exct... battle happens Meilan saves Wufei, and proceeds to die next to him sitting in his meadow of flowers.

2011-12-19, 20:23	Link #3717
Aldaeus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Behind you.	I typed out the chapter and sent it in a PM to you Deacon.

2011-12-19, 21:38	Link #3718
Tendou Souji Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010	Were there no pictures for the past chapter of Frozen Teardrop?

2011-12-21, 09:16	Link #3719
susyia Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brazil	hey look what i found!! there's ova gundam wing operation meteor i didin't know that exist http://greenzombie.awardspace.com/gwoeom.html i'm downloading now i hope i like

2011-12-21, 09:57	Link #3720
IkuzeMinna Shall we? Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Europe	... ... ... Should anyone mention that OM is mostly a clip show...? EDIT: Also, thank you Miss Yuy for elaborating on Arabic names. It's always good to have natives clear things up. Though I'm not entirely sure if you proved or disproved my statement... or better say Wikipedia. Talking about names, did anyone notice that James Clerk Maxwell (the Scottish physicist and mathematician, not Duo) was married to a woman called Katherine? These Catherines, they're everywhere! Another funfact is that their marriage was a happy one, said to be "one of unexampled devotion". Makes one wonder if Sumizawa is being intentionally ironic here. There's also a question I have. I understand that Hilde ran an orphanage on Mars to mirror the events of Duo's EpZ. What I don't understand is, where did the orphans come from? Isn't Mars a brand-new planet that had just recently been terraformed, thus making it slightly impossible for parentless kids to run around without even a war having taken place (iirc)? Unless they shipped them over, too I don't see how this could make much sense. EDIT 2: I think we hadn't seen the pics from chap 13 yet, yes? EDIT 3: wtf is wrong with Catherine's waist??? And Duo's! What the?! Last edited by IkuzeMinna; 2017-01-09 at 15:05.