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Old 2015-09-03, 01:07   Link #3881
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As was evident in my earlier post, I'm still a learner of Japanese, but during a conversation with some online friends they asked me to show them what (if anything I could do). It took me about 15 minutes to try and translate this, so I'm coming to you guys to let me know if I even got it right at all. xD



The first sentence only, I think, says something along the lines of, "However, we only breathe a percent of air, we must breathe 2 proportions of air." Is this right? I'm not sure what to make of the second part of the sentence, mostly. What's going on with the 空気中の実? Is 割 a counter of some sort?
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Old 2015-09-03, 03:54   Link #3882
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"However, the air we breathe only contains 20% Oxygen. The remaining 80% consisted of Nitrogen, which is supposed to suffocate us."
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Old 2015-09-04, 07:17   Link #3883
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割 operates sort of like a counter. You can think of it as counting bundles of 10%.

So in the example you posted, 2割 would be 20%, 8割 would be 80%. The same works for any number between 1 and 9.

Your understanding ("2 portions of air") isn't really that far off, though I'd word it like "2 parts" with the implication that there are 10 parts total.


As for 空気中の実,

空気 = Air/Atmosphere
中 = in
実 = content/substance (I assume this is where the difficulty is, as 実 has a billion definitions)

So roughly, the "contents in the air," or "contents in the atmosphere." A bit more colloquially, the "contents of the air," or "the air is made up of ____."

While your translation feels kind of clunky, in essence its not that far off the mark. Hyde did a good job of making it sound a bit more elegant, so I'd probably go with that one, but with the reservation that I would probably want to see the rest of that sentence you cut off before making any definitive claims about it :P
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Old 2016-01-22, 00:00   Link #3884
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I'm heading off to Japan soon. One of the definite places I'm heading is to a Book Off! to sell off some extra copies of manga I bought a few years ago. I'm not sure on what to say, though I do know that I want to tell the store that I'm selling the copies.

Does it sound right to say something like...

私はこれらの漫画の本を見ることができますか?
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Old 2016-01-22, 00:38   Link #3885
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I'm heading off to Japan soon. One of the definite places I'm heading is to a Book Off! to sell off some extra copies of manga I bought a few years ago. I'm not sure on what to say, though I do know that I want to tell the store that I'm selling the copies.

Does it sound right to say something like...

私はこれらの漫画の本を見ることができますか?
No. Not sure how you came up with that but it sounds way off. In fact I don't quite understand what you mean by that. Weird grammar/phrasing aside, you are effectively saying: "Can I look at these manga?". And it's more like questioning your ability to look rather than asking for permission.


Just make it simple, my suggestion:
すみません、新古書の漫画を売りたいのですが。。。
(sumimasen, shinkosho no manga wo uritai no desu ga...)

In fact Google translate seems to work pretty well (it sounds a bit superfluous but the meaning will get through without any issue )
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Old 2016-01-22, 14:50   Link #3886
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I'm heading off to Japan soon. One of the definite places I'm heading is to a Book Off! to sell off some extra copies of manga I bought a few years ago. I'm not sure on what to say, though I do know that I want to tell the store that I'm selling the copies.

Does it sound right to say something like...

私はこれらの漫画の本を見ることができますか?
Dekimasu is the potential form of the verb suru. it sounds like you are questioning your own ability to look at the manga. To say that you want to do an action, you have to use the tai form of the verb.

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Old 2016-01-22, 22:34   Link #3887
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Egads.

Seems like I'm way off. Thanks for the assist. Totally embarrassed now.
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Old 2016-01-22, 22:50   Link #3888
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I'm heading off to Japan soon. One of the definite places I'm heading is to a Book Off! to sell off some extra copies of manga I bought a few years ago. I'm not sure on what to say, though I do know that I want to tell the store that I'm selling the copies.

Does it sound right to say something like...

私はこれらの漫画の本を見ることができますか?
general rule, if it's not wrapped.... And it's Book Off where everything's virtually second hand...


I'd say browsing is fine.... Especially if you see others doing the same no?


But if it's wrapped and you want permission to read, just a simple すみません、この本を調べたい(みたい、読めたいetc) のですが。。。(それを)できますか? should get the meaning across
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Old 2016-01-24, 20:52   Link #3889
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^ when asking for permission, it's more natural to normally use ~てもいいですか? rather than できますか? which questions an ability.
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Old 2016-01-24, 21:03   Link #3890
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Ehh true...but I am stating it more like is it within the shop's rule to do so rather than requesting special permission
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Old 2016-01-30, 02:48   Link #3891
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Hey folks.

Need to ask if there's a way to ask someone "When's the best time to go to X?"

X is the marker for a place.
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Old 2016-01-30, 08:08   Link #3892
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Im not so sure but for me: "X"ni iku saiko no toki ni wa itsuka shitteimasuka? Or maybe saiko no toki ni "x" ni iku no wa itsuka shitterundesuka?

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Old 2016-01-30, 20:43   Link #3893
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A bit round about, but
Xに行きたいんですけど、一番いい時はいつと思いますか?
X ni ikitai n desu kedo, ichiban ii toki wa itsu to omoimasu ka?
(I want to go to X, when do you think would be the best time?)

...is in my opinion the most natural way of getting that across.
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Old 2016-01-30, 20:45   Link #3894
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Verb X in infinitive form + ごろ = best time to X.
So "best time to go" can be translated to 行きごろ

More colloquially you can also say X に行く一番いい時がいつですか。
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Old 2016-01-31, 03:47   Link #3895
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Thanks.

Folks wanted me to ask someone when's the best time to go to Sapporo. I failed cause I wasn't sure how to say it, given my level at N5.
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Old 2016-01-31, 22:18   Link #3896
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I found this odd track name in the Next Generation Patlabor tracklist

--> "来るもんが来た" (Kuru Mon Ga Kita)

I wasn't sure what it means. But I read it literally as "Mon" has come to come. Oddly, it didn't use the kanji for gate.
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Old 2016-01-31, 22:22   Link #3897
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It's just a slang use for "mono". So it's "kuru mono ga kita". That means "the one who's supposed to come has come" or somesuch.
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Old 2016-02-02, 08:44   Link #3898
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Old 2016-02-03, 05:35   Link #3899
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I just thought of something trivial but it's been bugging me. How do you translate "yoishotto" or the like? (you know, it's the sound Japanese like to make when they're straining to reach high places or pick heavy loads)
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Old 2016-02-03, 09:37   Link #3900
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As in translating from manga or something similar? Depending on context/character, the English equivalent would be "heave-ho!" or "oof" or "hup!". What do you normally say when straining to reach high placed or lift heavy loads?
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