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It's like saying that a series that doesn't have any combat in it has no right to be called shounen. (Flying Witch is an example.) If this was from a Season 1 interview, then I guess that Shuuichi is starting to bite their ass now that he has to become relevant to the plot now.
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2016-12-20, 01:31 | Link #1104 | ||
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2016-12-20, 01:39 | Link #1105 |
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Somehow, I understand why people were apprehensive when Saya began to gain roughly an equal amount of screentime as Hotaru in the Dagashi Kashi adaptation when the original manga overwhelms the reader with Hotaru goodness.
In a sense, the original sentiment of the author is "fixed" by the production staff, only for the watchers to realize that it only "muddled" the anime with the personal biases of the staff, which inevitably clashes with the natural order of the story. In Dagashi's case, fortunately, the problem isn't as strong, although it seems like even the author implied not liking the direction the anime took.
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2016-12-20, 01:43 | Link #1106 |
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Honestly if Takeda had just let KyoAni do their usual shit, it probably wouldn't be such a problem - the only other instance i can think of is Tamako Market where Mochi wasn't really....developed much, so they had to make a movie to get him and Tamako together, while Midori just gave up. I mean, i liked Hyouka enough, even though it was a "shoujo", i think.
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2016-12-20, 01:51 | Link #1109 |
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I don't think it is awful. I would say rather it is simple, very common human weakness expressing itself in a way not many are used to.
For what it is worth I very much agree with the evaluation - it really hits me as spot on....
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2016-12-20, 01:51 | Link #1110 | |
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They did a great job pushing it as far as possible. Otherwise it would look like another Ao Haru Ride or Orange for example. As for the prospective romance between Kumiko and Reina, it never seemed like that to me. I always thought them to be extremely close friends who were drawn to each other because of the differences in their personalities and the mysteriousness of their characters. I was amazed to read Takeda's latest interview because I actually got everything right as she described the personalities and their relationships in it. Shuuichi thinks Kumiko has a very cynical personality. Reina thinks she has a terrible personality. You think she is kinda awful.
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2016-12-20, 01:55 | Link #1111 | |
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IDK it just seems odd. Like, she seems kinda hypocritical? In season 1 she was, iirc upset she'd hurt reina's feelings or something in the prologue. Orange and Ao Haru Ride seem more unique in the mass of same old shoujo's though.
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2016-12-20, 01:56 | Link #1112 | |
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Hell, one of my expectations in the show were that it would go full shoujo at one point because of the renditions of the cast in the light novel and the manga.
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2016-12-20, 02:12 | Link #1113 | |
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As an extension of my previous post, Kumiko's parallels with Asuka are fairly obvious (I hope), but I think her just-as-significant parallels with Nozomi are even more relevant. Making Reina, and everyone else to some degree, Mizore.
I had once said I found Nozomi rather relatable (a reason I like her), but (as I'd sort of known all along) I also find Asuka and Kumiko relatable as well. Maybe that's part of why I like the show so much, and why all of their interactions make sense to me. Quote:
Then somewhere right around here Kumiko figures Reina out. She now understands her, and Reina is no longer mysterious and amazing, but is simply her very unique and quirky close friend. We can further see this shift in the relationship to a more healthy/balanced form after Kumiko chats with Taki and gets her phone back. Specifically when Kumiko is going on about how she's rediscovered her love for euphonium, while completely talking over and ignoring Reina's insistence on telling her about hanging out with Taki. That's the moment we see Reina is no longer the super special snowflake that Kumiko worships. From then on (which is 90% S2 because there wasn't much S1 after this point), Reina is just Reina, and subject to the same standard Kumiko treatment as all of her other friends. Hazuki and Sapphire not having all that much focus or screentime is very deliberate as I see it, because it just further feeds into how Kumiko's social network operated. The difference between them and Reina is the latter is not as okay with this shift. Again, rather like Nozomi, Mizore, Natsuki, and Yuuko, broadly speaking. I swear I had more to add to this but I'm blanking on what it was. >.> Because very little terrifies Kumiko more than hurting someone, anyone, else's feelings. |
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2016-12-20, 02:13 | Link #1114 |
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To be fair, i think she knows better that people just can't handle the truth. Even Asuka, being as mature and intelligent as she is, had a struggle. And then everyone within 10 miles of Reina knew that she was completely incapable of handling the truth at all. Flat out neurotic, it's no wonder why nobody talks to her on the matter.
I think Kumiko did really well.
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This seems like a relevant time to bring up that I was always impressed with how gently Shuu declined Hazuki asking him out, and how well she took it (at the time). Their little date is a favourite scene of mine. The hike with Reina only happened because Kumiko grabbed the arm of whoever happened to be coming out of the music room at that moment, and without looking, said she was going with that person. |
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2016-12-20, 02:32 | Link #1120 |
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Heh, the problem is usually people just come to you to vent, and not really listen to you. And then there's the projection, "If you were me, you'd definitely do that! I'm right, you gotta be like that!" It's no surprise Kumiko starts to get into those -_- faces a lot.
And that's why Reina makes me cringe sometimes. But she's still adorable after she gets around back to her senses.
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