(L+CR) My Hero Academia Season 3

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

The funny thing is that ended up being nothing to do with the charity event at all, and basically an extended commercial for the movie.

Yeah. They even lampshaded it, noted that there wasn't a speck of love in the episode.

[Random Wanderer]

Expecting them to get it from that "hint" is BS. On the other hand, apparently it's part of police procedure to restrain suspects at a crime scene no matter what their apparent condition. Seemingly dead suspects have proven to be alive in the past, after all, and thus can be a threat to officers.

[Galaxian]

I love how Bakugo was completely done with the whole scenario almost from the start.

[Guardian Enzo]

Even if that was kind of a misread of his character.

[Random14]

By filler standards it was ok. Not awful, but not what I'd call great either. More that it was somewhat entertaining and funny. That last twist was cheap though, but it would be kind of like Aizawa to pull that kind of trick on them. Although they went overboard with the melodrama, but the episode was parodying that kind of situation.

I forget sometimes how old All Might is, but I was already looking forward to the movie anyway (even if it sounds like it'll just be normal anime filler too). Anyway, I'll be glad to get back to canon material next week.

[Guardian Enzo]

Horikoshi wrote the movie (or at least the major plot and character points). To me it feels quite canon. And not only that, he's said that the movie canon is officially part of the series' core mythology now.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Yeah, I really hope that the movie is canon. I mean, surely people in the industry have learnt from past shounen movies (from DBZ, YYH, Inu-freakin'-yasha, Naruto, OP, Bleach and even HxH) that doing non-canon features is just wasting potentials and resources unless the non-canon movies did some truly incredible one-off stories. Heck, even Digimon Adventure & Doraemon movies are canon to their respective TV series so, why can't popular shounen do the same?

[Mr. DJ]

Horokoshi said the movie is canon. It takes place between Seasons 2 and 3.

[Chosen_Hero]

Didn't expect to get a Detective Conan filler case as a filler for BnH (anyone that has seen Case Closed knows how bad the deducting in those can get).

I call bs on Deku getting the entire premise 99% right with barely any evidence outside of the wallets, I get that this is supposed to be comedic episode made to promote the movie but they could have put more effort and made it a good Detective Conan parody training exercise. Now that would have been hilarious to watch.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Chosen_Hero

Didn't expect to get a Detective Conan filler case as a filler for BnH (anyone that has seen Case Closed knows how bad the deducting in those can get).

I call bs on Deku getting the entire premise 99% right with barely any evidence outside of the wallets, I get that this is supposed to be comedic episode made to promote the movie but they could have put more effort and made it a good Detective Conan parody training exercise. Now that would have been hilarious to watch.

Sometimes the deducting can get really stupid. But here? Unless all three witnesses were in on it, it wasn't hard to guess the villain stabbed himself (motives aside, who else could have?), the rest was just a matter of guessing why. Which Deku didn't, actually, but that's not the point. The big clue for guessing the premise was the question of who called the police. (And yes, normally, you'd conclude it was someone who wasn't dumb enough to enter the store after seeing it was being held up, but well, lucky guess and dumb scenario...) The wallets didn't play a role.

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Sometimes the deducting can get really stupid. But here? Unless all three witnesses were in on it, it wasn't hard to guess the villain stabbed himself (motives aside, who else could have?), the rest was just a matter of guessing why. Which Deku didn't, actually, but that's not the point. The big clue for guessing the premise was the question of who called the police. (And yes, normally, you'd conclude it was someone who wasn't dumb enough to enter the store after seeing it was being held up, but well, lucky guess and dumb scenario...) The wallets didn't play a role.

Sorry, was very tired when I wrote that post, so I got a few things wrong like the wallets being evidence. I do agree with you, but my problem is not with the scenario itself (although it was a pretty crappy one, especially the part where they are magically supposed to know that the actor was acting dead as the character without any sort of rule or warning set beforehand), my problem is that Deku made a 99% accurate deduction of the entire scenario and that the teachers agreed with his "deduction".

With the information given up to the point where Deku starts "deducing" all you would get is that Midnight was just a concerned citizen that noticed a really sketchy man with obvious intent of wrongdoing entering a jewelry store that then alerted the police but then (stupidly) decided to enter to check if something was possibly amiss and ended up getting caught. Nothing at all points at Midnight and the Villain having a relationship to the point that Midnight is willing to do what she did, or give her any reason to breakdown as she did proving Deku was right about her motives. Sure, Deku got the love part wrong, but that was only from the perspective of the Villain since Midnight and Eraserhead had already proven that Deku was right that there was in fact a relationship and that Midnight did love the Villain.

Even if they did fail in the end Deku still somehow got 99% of the scenario right using unfounded motives that turned out to magically be the right ones without any sort of clue to them at all. Like I said, this felt like one of those Detective Conan filler episodes were Conan just guesses the entire premise of the murder, the motives and the trick to the murder with one non-conclusive piece of evidence that is magically the perfect piece of evidence that will make the murderer breakdown and confess everything for no reason... It's been a while since I have seen DC, might have to start catching up again.

[Anh_Minh]

To a degree you are right - in all such stories, the world is small and simple. We meet all the relevant actors, and witnesses are never simply mistaken - they're either tricked, or lying, and lying with a purpose.

That's why whoever called the police had to be either one of the witnesses, or the villain himself. But it's also why Midnight couldn't have gone into the store after calling the police out of sheer stupidity. And if it'd been, she'd have said so. And granting that, why else would she have entered the store?

[Ghostfriendly]

I can forgive the rather extravagant deductions by Midoriya since the murder is the kind of romantic morning drama set up that All Might would naturally concoct, and Deku is perfectly in tune with All Night's thought process. The twist ending was probably Aizawa's doing.

[Anh_Minh]

There's also the possibility Midnight just went with the flow when Deku started his deductions...

[Mr. DJ]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

There's also the possibility Midnight just went with the flow when Deku started his deductions...

Seems about right given the ending of the scenario lol

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

To a degree you are right - in all such stories, the world is small and simple. We meet all the relevant actors, and witnesses are never simply mistaken - they're either tricked, or lying, and lying with a purpose.

That's why whoever called the police had to be either one of the witnesses, or the villain himself. But it's also why Midnight couldn't have gone into the store after calling the police out of sheer stupidity. And if it'd been, she'd have said so. And granting that, why else would she have entered the store?

Actually, it is common for a witness to be mistaken on events even if they did see the crime/accident/etc happen. While witness accounts can help you find a missing piece, they can also be very unreliable when when the witness feels like they are telling you the truth. If anything, all witnesses being able to perfectly describe an account is what is truly out of the ordinary.

With that said, Midnight did not lie, she just didn't say anything at all that would be a link to her and the Villain having some sort of relationship which makes Dekus deduction on their relationship bs and the fact that he was right even more bs.

As for her entering the store that she actively knows is getting robbed is just convenience on the part of the scenario because the character has to be extremely stupid to do that. It would have worked better if she had followed him inside before he started robbing the place. Besides, this is the world where heroes and society at large literally chastises those that take that kind of initiative and puts themselves into danger, Midnight is an adult in this world, her character would NOT put herself in that position that easily.

Originally Posted by Ghostfriendly

I can forgive the rather extravagant deductions by Midoriya since the murder is the kind of romantic morning drama set up that All Might would naturally concoct, and Deku is perfectly in tune with All Night's thought process. The twist ending was probably Aizawa's doing.

Well I can't on the simple basis that this supposed to be a "serious" training exercise, as with everything they do in that school.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

There's also the possibility Midnight just went with the flow when Deku started his deductions...

Originally Posted by Mr. DJ

Seems about right given the ending of the scenario lol

At first I thought that too, but Aizawa quite clearly states that Dekus deduction is exactly the same as the scenario they wrote except for one thing, the Villain faking his death.

[Random14]

Good to get back to the manga storyline here. Too bad they just had to end the episode on that cliffhanger. How much longer is this season anyway? Feels like its almost time for another break, but this season has been particularly awesome.

I almost feel sorry for Todoroki, he's still got issues but I found Inasa more annoying, between his personality and his own issues. If those two could have worked together, they probably would have put up a much better fight. And poor Bakugo was stuck "rescuing" people the whole time. And Tsuyu has a new ability! I wish we could have seen more of the others fighting off the "minions", but guess this was Todoroki and Inasa's moment.

This test arc hasn't been bad, but next episode looks even more interesting, given the characters involved.

[foxbox360]

Next Week: Deku vs Bakugou Round 2? and All might visiting his nemesis in prison.

[Stark700]

Inasa's hate for Todoroki reminded me slightly of season 2 where Todoroki himself hated his father (very different reasons of course)

[Kanon]

Given the system they were using, Todoroki and Inasa most likely failed. The blunder they committed is just way too big. I hope the two of them will have a little talk and apologize to each other.