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2013-06-13, 12:14 | Link #4 |
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^I disagree with this chart.
Carrisa with Curtana Second's shards stronger than Aqua? Birdway lower than Vento despite Touma can't negate the former attacks? He only touched Index, and he really didn't hit Kanzaki it was Kanzaki the one hit herself . |
2013-06-13, 13:46 | Link #5 | |
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I still think it's a pretty good chart regardless though. The effort is appreciated. It's obviously hard to make it near perfect at this point. We don't have near enough information that's definite. |
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2013-06-13, 19:22 | Link #7 | |
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In terms of Birdway... Spoiler for late OT of Index and details on her power and some NT:
I know what you mean about Touma. I understand that. I'm not saying this makes the top 4 weaker. I'm saying this should make Touma higher than he is... Considering everything we have seen about him... he will probably be there sometime. Even if it doesn't claim to be a power relation chart (?), it was made to show the relative strength of characters. If it can't do that correctly, then what's the point of making one in the first place. Maybe they should change it from a 2-D pyramid to a 3-d pyramid. That would better account for the different possibilities (me trolling). |
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2013-06-13, 21:33 | Link #9 | |
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That's all I'm going to say about that... I have to admit though: it's really really hard to figure out where things would go on a pyramid like that and get even half of the relative power levels right. |
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2013-06-14, 09:30 | Link #11 | |
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But: the Birdway stuff happened somewhere in 20-22 don't remember which Rikou in 22 Touma (that's obvious) Spoiler for volume 22:
And fine: I was just speculating. I still think things will happen ok? |
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2013-06-14, 10:43 | Link #12 | |
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2013-06-14, 11:02 | Link #13 | |
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P.S. I did read the legend. P.P.S. about Birdway... (the actual truth) Spoiler for NT 6 Birdway:
P.P.P.S. It's a good chart. I was saying it could be improved. It's an opinion. I was giving some critical feedback. Is that a problem? People accomplish things, making better charts, by taking critical feedback and doing something about it... just saying. You work and you work to get results... Spoiler for NT 6:
P.P.P.P.S. (if you're saying Touma's power isn't his own ability, then......... that's silly...) his power is his ability... Touma can use IB... so his power is the power of IB... what about that isn't obvious?... Every aspect of IB is part of Touma's power. In terms of Gemstones, their abilities are their own powers. Touma is like that even if he is technically a special case. I guess it's still too early to speculate, Spoiler for Vol 22:
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2013-06-16, 18:10 | Link #15 | |
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I'm guessing Aleister Crowley is also immune to mind control somehow... I wonder how... Misaki could also just mind control important people who have legal power or influence... she doesn't need to directly control "powerful" espers in that sense to get her work done. She could have mind controlled everyone in the Radio Noise project probably to solve Mikoto's problem for her... if she had wanted to.. (that's more than Mikoto would have been able to accomplish)... Power is a relative thing. |
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Misaki, I don't think so, she must be even less capable than Mikoto. He must be like Fiamma, once you reach a certain level you r nigh invulnerable to any kind of effects from spells or attacks. Fiamma had his protection from his HR and used against Index's mind poison but once he lost it on his defeat he started to suffer the consequences. |
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So many ellipses you're using there pal, in fact there's not one sentence aside from two in your post that doesn't have one. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On topic: It's jarring to consider how powerful individuals in the Magic side compared to their Science side counter-parts. But then again artificial espers are relatively new to supernatural scene, they'll probably evolve or something as the series progresses. Last edited by Ihaxlikenoob; 2013-06-16 at 19:01. |
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It's kind of like a natural pause for me when I'm talking. On topic: I want to see espers evolve. I hope they do. They can espervolve. Is there some dragon quest reference I can make, now? |
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