Heavy Object [Light Novel]

[Apoptosis]

Originally Posted by iLikePotatoes

Plot twist: I like both series.

Your crying is invalid.

I carefully worded my sentence to exclude people who read both series. Your attempted snark is invalid. Besides I like both series too. Just that the cons slightly outweigh the pros to me...

Well, hopefully the adaptation will do the series justice.

[Weikang]

I was waiting for this, pretty happy to finally see the two idiots on screen.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

I hope the internet chills down, so much undeserved hate on this series.

Blame Dengeki's awful marketing, not this series please.

I'm hyped for this series. I'm not sure whether I should wait for the anime or try reading it first though? What do you guys think? I mean... no Index III is bad... but we weren't going to get it anyway... Thinking about it logically: all last night did was give us a new anime to enjoy~~~ and tying it in with other Kamachi works. In the best case scenario, more Kamachi series getting more popular means more fanbase for all of his works in general. I mean... look at Type Moon. It's the same principle. I don't necessarily like what I've seen from it, but it's mega popular because it has so many different parts that people like.

This is just good news. It is worse than what we expected, but it is better than what might have happened. The fact that this is the first non-Index-related series by Kamachi getting an anime and that Blood Sign is also likely getting an anime just makes this even better news.

I'm personally happy for Kamachi and I can't wait to see this. Not watching this because you didn't get Index is like hurting Kamachi because he didn't give you what you wanted. That's not how being a successful fandom works. You try to help the author so that he can go and help you back. The more clout and success he has--the more positive stuff that can happen later. This is why things like this usually blow out of proportion and fail: negative cycles of emotion react against each other and make things that could have ended well end badly...

Anyway, my original question still stands: do you all recommend reading this or waiting for the adaptation? I've only really read A certain series by Kamachi and bits of Blood Sign--so I'm rather new to other series of his. I'm therefore open to advice because I generally love his use of complex and interesting ideas anyway. As long as this has interesting ideas, I'm in? So does this have any bizarre/Kamachiesque wacko ideas?

[Fellen]

Originally Posted by dniv

I'm hyped for this series. I'm not sure whether I should wait for the anime or try reading it first though? What do you guys think? I mean... no Index III is bad... but we weren't going to get it anyway... Thinking about it logically: all last night did was give us a new anime to enjoy~~~ and tying it in with other Kamachi works. In the best case scenario, more Kamachi series getting more popular means more fanbase for all of his works in general. I mean... look at Type Moon. It's the same principle. I don't necessarily like what I've seen from it, but it's mega popular because it has so many different parts that people like.

This is just good news. It is worse than what we expected, but it is better than what might have happened. The fact that this is the first non-Index-related series by Kamachi getting an anime and that Blood Sign is also likely getting an anime just makes this even better news.

I'm personally happy for Kamachi and I can't wait to see this. Not watching this because you didn't get Index is like hurting Kamachi because he didn't give you what you wanted. That's not how being a successful fandom works. You try to help the author so that he can go and help you back. The more clout and success he has--the more positive stuff that can happen later. This is why things like this usually blow out of proportion and fail: negative cycles of emotion react against each other and make things that could have ended well end badly...

Anyway, my original question still stands: do you all recommend reading this or waiting for the adaptation? I've only really read A certain series by Kamachi and bits of Blood Sign--so I'm rather new to other series of his. I'm therefore open to advice because I generally love his use of complex and interesting ideas anyway. As long as this has interesting ideas, I'm in? So does this have any bizarre/Kamachiesque wacko ideas?

I recommend reading it beforehand since similarly to how the Index anime skipped infodumps the HO anime might do the same. So by reading it beforehand you'll be able to appreciate what's happening onscreen more.

Also yeah this series has bizarre/Kamachiesque/unorthodox wacko ideas.

[El Rue]

Another option is to read the parts/story arc/volume after seeing it animated, like following it step by step (to see its original form and/or fill in gaps that might go unexplained in the adaptation which often happens to some explanations & mental monologues).

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by Fellen

Also yeah this series has bizarre/Kamachiesque/unorthodox wacko ideas.

This is Kamachi we are dealing with so that is sort of a given.

Also I heard that HO volumes are sorta episodic and that it is mostly just one isolated incident after another. Is that true?

[bakato]

Originally Posted by the one above all

This is Kamachi we are dealing with so that is sort of a given.

Also I heard that HO volumes are sorta episodic and that it is mostly just one isolated incident after another. Is that true?

Yes. To date, there are no arcs that span more than one volume.

I was a little skeptical when I heard the news, but when I thought about it I realized the anime adaptation had some definite potential.

[desrtsku]

Originally Posted by the one above all

This is Kamachi we are dealing with so that is sort of a given.

Also I heard that HO volumes are sorta episodic and that it is mostly just one isolated incident after another. Is that true?

More or less. Kamachi himself said in one of his HO afterwords (I don't remember which one, though) that he structured the series in such a way that all you need to do is read the first volume, and then you can jump directly to any other volume you want without missing anything important.
That is strictly about the plot only of course. If you take his remark for granted, you'll miss out on exploring some notable character arcs. Or you might also fail to understand some character jokes/references in the future. Silly Kamachi.

But to be more accurate, the schema goes exactly like a full Index arc compressed into a single volume. You know, a series of seemingly independent conflicts which always come together with the final one.

[Flere821]

Nice to see this series getting an anime Hopefully they can capture the same comedy as in the LNs.

[SineMora]

Originally Posted by desrtsku

More or less. Kamachi himself said in one of his HO afterwords (I don't remember which one, though) that he structured the series in such a way that all you need to do is read the first volume, and then you can jump directly to any other volume you want without missing anything important.
That is strictly about the plot only of course. If you take his remark for granted, you'll miss out on exploring some notable character arcs. Or you might also fail to understand some character jokes/references in the future. Silly Kamachi.

But to be more accurate, the schema goes exactly like a full Index arc compressed into a single volume. You know, a series of seemingly independent conflicts which always come together with the final one.

Nah despite being quite separated the volumes actually take things from earlier volumes... and answers the question of Earlier volumes.

For example: Who are the ones REALLY behind the Oceania incident in Volume 1? It gets answered in 7 but builds up in the middle.

Also, whatever Quenser learned the earlier volumes, gets reused... and horribly countered the next volume Hence: "We can't make battlefield manuals in destroying Objects. Any strategy we used today, will be outdated tomorrow."

[Brin A'sair]

Originally Posted by Code:GUEST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuuKTwwiPd4

I never would have imagined the voice they chose for Milinda, but somehow it fits.

I will look forward to this anime. I imagine I'm an outlier, but I actually like Heavy Object more than Index.

[SineMora]

Originally Posted by Brin A'sair

I never would have imagined the voice they chose for Milinda, but somehow it fits.

I will look forward to this anime. I imagine I'm an outlier, but I actually like Heavy Object more than Index.

Now I realize why both of them are freaking out, specially if your Fire Support sounds like a robotic, utterly bored girl driving a 50 Kiloton monstrosity behind you, and you're in the middle of a crossfire a few seconds later...

[Tranhieu]

Originally Posted by Brin A'sair

I never would have imagined the voice they chose for Milinda, but somehow it fits.

I will look forward to this anime. I imagine I'm an outlier, but I actually like Heavy Object more than Index.

No you're not alone. I also prefer Heavy Object to Index. It's more fun and the events are easier to follow.

[Brin A'sair]

I finally figured out why the voice sounds familiar.

Milinda is being voiced by the same VA that did Sanae (the ghost) from Rokujouma no Shinryakusha, but with the timbre as if she were playing the role of Iona [I401] from Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio - Ars Nova.

[deadlight]

Originally Posted by Weikang

I was waiting for this, pretty happy to finally see the two idiots on screen.

Can't wait to hear their conversations

[desrtsku]

I'm looking forward to their hijinks too. I hope they don't remove the penguin scene and the 'it's porn' scenes.

Originally Posted by SineMora

For example: Who are the ones REALLY behind the Oceania incident in Volume 1? It gets answered in 7 but builds up in the middle.

It still falls under the 'you just need to read the first volume to not be lost' though. But yeah, the other volume did help showing that the world factions are all a bunch of internal mess and independent powers has it really rough. But it still not as important as the evolution of the cast in my opinion.

Originally Posted by SineMora

Also, whatever Quenser learned the earlier volumes, gets reused... and horribly countered the next volume Hence: "We can't make battlefield manuals in destroying Objects. Any strategy we used today, will be outdated tomorrow."

This just plays in the variety factor rather than the plot itself. And 'horribly countered' is too strong of an expression, it just happen to not work. Moreover, most of the 'any strategy we used today, will be outdated tomorrow' are applied more for accidents within the same volume rather than accidents from separate volumes (for when we have more than one object per volume). Stuffs like 'putting an explosive in a random fragile part', or 'feeding false info to the AI' are a good example. And stuffs like 'beware of the sensors' strategy, which are the most brought up, don't really matter since they have been branded as a very circumstantial since the very beginning (though he did maim a jumping object by messing up with them).

[Weikang]

Originally Posted by desrtsku

I'm looking forward to their hijinks too. I hope they don't remove the penguin scene and the 'it's porn' scenes.

I'm waiting for the "engagement ring" conversation, but i'm not sure that we will reach Vol3.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Weikang

I'm waiting for the "engagement ring" conversation, but i'm not sure that we will reach Vol3.

I really hope we get to see volume 6. That's the closest we'll ever get to Index's WWIII arc.

[El Rue]

I'm quite happy and all...but I'd also like to see Mariydi "Ice Girl 1" Whitewitch from volume 5, I've always been fond of her. Depends on how far it gets adapted I guess, but that certain volume was a deviation from the standard so...

Oh, that reminds me of how funky the names of characters can get. It would be amusing to see anime viewers reaction on hearing them. Alicia Sloppyjoes? Seriously?

[Pablete]

Maridy debuts on volume.3, just saying.