(L) Magi - Labyrinth of Magic [manga]

[Apoptosis]

Well considering that Sinbad has Zepar when he wasn't the one chosen in the first place already spoiled it.

[LevelSeven]

while i miss the fact that there is no alibaba fighting im superpleased with the current flow of the story,

seems like david stilll exists and talks with sinbad,
and sinbad faked his understanding for alladins interpretation,

but i would say alladins thinking is naive,
he talked about hopes and dreams, but that doesnt stop war and suffering,

if people follow their dreams at some point people WILL clash and with 1 vs 1 it turns bigger and bigger until people suffer due to people wanting their dream to come true...

like i said once, only a being that is absolute should have the right to rule over humanity, sinbad and david are by far not such beings, but their thinking isnt bad per se

[FlareKnight]

Aladdin's thinking certainly has naivety to it and idealism. But Sinbad's perspective is no less naive. What does he think he can do? Even if he was a near god and controlled everything....he's going to die eventually. His absolute rule is limited to his lifespan. And honestly what is the point of peace if he can't allow anyone to have their own ideas? He wants a world without war and one without innovation unless that innovation comes from him?

That level of selfishness will cause wars itself. No matter how much Sinbad wishes for it, creating a world without conflict isn't going to happen. Trying to control the world to that degree is itself a conflict. Even becoming a God will eventually just lead to people seeking their freedom and desire to cut down that God. If Sinbad wants a world without conflict then he better just turn to wiping out humanity. No life, no conflict.

At least Aladdin is encouraging people to seek their happiness. And he's not totally naive. He wants Sinbad to share his burdens with them and admits no one can see the whole picture. They are all individuals and need to share their views.

[LevelSeven]

^in sinbads case there will at least be a time where wars wont happen (and im not sure if he will have a human lifespan if he reaches the same lvl as sinbad) at all... while i agree that it is a plan full of flaws and wont work forever im absolutely sure that alladins plan isnt any better

the only way i see for lasting peace is to make people as emotionally attached to one another as possible, that way nobody will be able to ignore a person who is in need and nobody will be able to hurt others because of their own goals

or maybe making a world where people dont know the concept of lies and deceptions, but i dont think that the truth will make people any less affected by their violent tendencys :/

[Fairy Water]

I feel like Sinbad is totally negative while Aladdin is full positive.
Wonder who is it that Arba went to meet? And I thought she doesn't hate David? What's a twist.

[Kazu-kun]

I see a translation mistake in page 13

"But you can also see what Alibaba's being doing"

should be

"But Alibaba can see it too"

[LevelSeven]

^does that means alibaba is also a singularity like sinbad?

i hope we will get a fight in the end with alibaba (with alibaba gaining a few more djinns) vs sinbad and alladin vs a more powerful arba

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

^does that means alibaba is also a singularity like sinbad?

No, Aladdin is talking figuratively.

[DragoMuseveni]

That last page tho , it gives me a feeling that David ditched Sinbad and started a new plan with Arba . He stated that Solomon`s wisdom is not the only key to unlock the sacred place

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

No, Aladdin is talking figuratively.

but i guess it would weaken alibabas character, he was never meant to be someone born to be great, no big past, destiny or special ability like mors but despite that he still impresses people and is able to motivate them

[Apoptosis]

I feel Aladdin and Sinbad both want the same thing for the world, it's just that Aladdin has faith in humanity while Sinbad doesn't.

[Fwarlord]

Originally Posted by Fairy Water

I feel like Sinbad is totally negative while Aladdin is full positive.
Wonder who is it that Arba went to meet? And I thought she doesn't hate David? What's a twist.

Well, Arba always hates David, ever since Alma Torran. She believes he is the usurper who steal Ill Illah's position and wants to erase his existence to restore Ill Illah to its pure state.

[foxbox360]

They said we halfway though the final arc, we might see a huge war in the end. As for Sinbad, I'm glad he didn't picture as the end villain, he just a guy who try to make the world a better place. He admitted defeat but won't change his belief, he is human after all...

[LevelSeven]

^i think the defeat-part wasnt actually true... the way he thought to himself about alladins way of thinking makes it seem like he faked agreement in order to have a easier time betraying them later :/

[DragonOsman]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

^in sinbads case there will at least be a time where wars wont happen (and im not sure if he will have a human lifespan if he reaches the same lvl as sinbad) at all... while i agree that it is a plan full of flaws and wont work forever im absolutely sure that alladins plan isnt any better

the only way i see for lasting peace is to make people as emotionally attached to one another as possible, that way nobody will be able to ignore a person who is in need and nobody will be able to hurt others because of their own goals

or maybe making a world where people dont know the concept of lies and deceptions, but i dont think that the truth will make people any less affected by their violent tendencys :/

You're also right, in that Sinbad will at least manage to create peace for a time even though it'll take a lot of time, but it's still bad that his way would attempt to control people. Trying to control people and taking away their individual will and ability to think for themselves is a kind of tyranny. That's one of the things Sinbad wanted to stop when he started off trying to change the world.

So yeah, I agree with Apoptosis' point: They both want basically the same thing, with Sinbad having lost his trust in humanity and Aladdin still having that trust. That's the reason why, this being a Shounen manga, Aladdin has to be one to win. To send the readers the message that humanity really can still be trusted, even if the world became anything like what's shown in this series and if what Sinbad fears will happen happens.

And yeah, on the point of him admitting defeat, that probably wasn't true.

[foxbox360]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

^i think the defeat-part wasnt actually true... the way he thought to himself about alladins way of thinking makes it seem like he faked agreement in order to have a easier time betraying them later :/

So sad but true, Sinbad is his own worst enemy and I wonder if his friends will help in his quest to take the scrad palace.

[DragonOsman]

They can't. Aladdin is closely related to the Sacred Palace and if what Sinbad wants to do with it is bad in any way, Aladdin will want to stop him rather than to help him.

[Sixth]

Arba came in the whole package; Loli Arba, Young Arba, Milf Arba. Definitely worth your buck if you can tolerate with her zealous insanity.

And Sinbad wasn't even trying here and the entire casts were convinced by his act alone. It was nice to see that David is decided to take the matters with his own hands.

As for trust on humanity issue and how Aladdin believe with it, I really think that the author shouldn't prey on this kind of issue in the first place. It is really hard for me to swallow the whole "humanity can be good" pill when you've live long enough to see how our society works. The Naruto's writer touched this issue as well, but at the best he can wrote for the ending was Naruto is still working/searching with it without a firm solution.

[DragonOsman]

You're right about Arba, but she's still a b*tch, so I'd never take her if she were real.

[foxbox360]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

They can't. Aladdin is closely related to the Sacred Palace and if what Sinbad wants to do with it is bad in any way, Aladdin will want to stop him rather than to help him.

I was referring to the seven generals, the casts of Snb.