2011-08-10, 09:34 | Link #12701 | ||
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You say you want her to know what Touma does, so do you want her into the story or not? You can't have it both ways because it has to start some where.
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2011-08-10, 10:02 | Link #12702 | |
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The fact is that the whole of Academy City is ignorant. And you can't blame them. Heck, even Touma was skeptical of the whole magic thing until Innocentius tried bashing his face in. When you are ingrained in something all your life, suddenly accepting a change is difficult. And Mikoto does, in fact, realize that Touma is in deeper shit than she originally realized in Volume 16, I think. It's just that she was conflicted with herself on why exactly she would care about him so much that she's frozen with indecision. It's an acceptable thing. One could argue about her significance to the plot but she's proven her guts - When Touma's in trouble, she rushes over to Russia without a second thought, stops a potential nuclear fallout and attempts to fly up there to rescue him personally. What did Lessar do? Stand around and gape. Her appearances only seem forced because she sometimes appears out of nowhere... but Touma actually gives a viable reason for her being there. She's his tutor, she's the most powerful electromaster and thus, her knowledge regarding electronics is top-notch. I understand the massive wanking that some people force down other people's throats but I would like to ask some understanding rather than bashing her character and appearance. Heck, at this rate, you might as well say that Index shouldn't be there because she doesn't do anything except biting Touma and providing exposition. |
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2011-08-10, 10:24 | Link #12703 | |
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One thing for sure is that it is not within my power to decide whether I want to see her in Index or not. I can still see her around and go "Her again?" but alas, I'm not Kamachi. I'll be looking forward to seeing how far "I'll fight too" goes for her in NT3.
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2011-08-10, 10:26 | Link #12704 |
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Quite a lot of interesting information to take in. I like most of what I've heard so far concerning NT2.
Regarding the picture of Radiosonde - was that cone also part of the structure or was it due to Kanzaki? Also, while I can see what might have brought 'Railgun Hell' on (Touma should really have known better), was it a before-after with a brief description, or description as it happened? |
2011-08-10, 10:39 | Link #12705 | |||
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On a related note, Kanzaki's SS Chapter 1 part 1 has been translated by Js06. |
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2011-08-10, 10:40 | Link #12706 |
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Quite honestly I see Misaka as a well done character all in all she stays true to her dementor, she actually acts like a person that age (outside picking on poor skill outs harashing others). Really you want her to have a reason? honestly outside Touma theres no reason for her to be involved so far, as someone mention people are grounded to a reality and in the espers case they don't really belive in occult stuff even accelerator that so far was the most open minded esper took a bit to actually belive in those things.
I have more issues with Itsuwa been forced on the main plot she is basically everywhere when Touma needs a magician, avigon? really of 50 possible Akamatsu there it has to be Itsuwa. |
2011-08-10, 10:42 | Link #12707 | |
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Anyway, called up my otoutos, and they did confirm the spoilers so far. Also, no Railgun Hell or Deredere Worst |
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2011-08-10, 10:45 | Link #12708 | |
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I don't see why not. That volume was her real debut. Volume 11 wasn't anything big. |
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2011-08-10, 10:48 | Link #12709 | |
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As for Mikoto, my complaint isn't about people hating it as much as they're complaining about her being inserted into the main story by saying it's forced progression. Really? How could it be forced progression finally inserting a "major" character that's been around since the beginning into the main plot, and that's without reading the flow leading to the event yet. It's fair to hate on a character, but why all the hate of her being inserted into the story when there's nothing wrong about it considering she went to Russia before and face danger just for being able to fight with Kamijou. |
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2011-08-10, 10:52 | Link #12710 |
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It's still better than the condensed wreak that was Index 2 (I mean, only a few of them had the same kind of impact as Railgun in any sense). But really, I'm comparing the two series. Index had a lot of potential wasted, unlike Railgun, and that gave the hardcores enough ammo to ram through with their zealous beliefs.
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2011-08-10, 11:00 | Link #12711 | ||
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2011-08-10, 11:11 | Link #12713 | |
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I wake up and come here, expecting to see at least a few more spoilers, but it's another Mikoto argument?
When did Mikoto turn into Matou Sakura? My opinion on the matter is that Mikoto was bound to get involved in Touma's battles a long time ago. This is simply a natural progression of everything that's happened so far. Quote:
*flies away to BT*
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2011-08-10, 11:49 | Link #12716 |
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Well, the Japanese>Chinese translators have already translated the prologue of NT2 now. Not going to use it though.
And I failed in my quest to get NT2. Next attempt will be on 14/8 (or 8/14 if you like), since I'm really busy after all the National Day stuff (Army)...
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2011-08-10, 13:00 | Link #12717 | |
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@ Teh_Ping - Too bad, but good luck next time.
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_____ Anyway, I would like to add that some people here make it sound like Kamachi is sacrificing the structure of his story just to please the fans by including more of Mikoto. Have you thought that maybe Kamachi likes her too, as well as many of his other characters?, but since she's had good reception then he decided to include more of her in the story. Possibly slowly precisely so as not to affect what he had already thought of. |
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2011-08-10, 13:17 | Link #12718 | ||||
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Kamachi already changed the structure since after vol. 2, remember? Don't you think that somehow affects the series? Railgun has Mikoto while Index has... Touma, Accel, Mikoto, Hamazura and growing load of characters.... and? Somehow I've finally realized why serenade_beta refers to Index as In-something-san, etc... . Even if some people has a dislike for the titular character Louise from ZnT, Shana from SnS, etc, their respective authors have managed to keep their titular characters a main characters even I admit despite not liking some of them I have a respect for them. A series which doesn't do so will slowly reveal its weakness by adding more and more characters but the supposed titulars in order to make up for those points. Quote:
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2011-08-10, 13:57 | Link #12719 | ||
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Itsuwa, Kanzaki, Agnesse and Orsola, among others, have sections that have little to do with the main plot, and I don't see people complaining about that (and they shouldn't, those also don't absorb that much space either.) I think it's just wrong to blame every storytelling mistake to the inclusion of Mikoto. Quote:
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2011-08-10, 14:02 | Link #12720 | ||
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