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^I haven't disregarded your posts at all. Yes, Usopp is a fraidy-cat, but like I already said, he's had a lot of growth throughout the series. In earlier storylines he was more liable to run away from a fight, but that hasn't really been the case in the more recent adventures. He stood his ground and fought alongside his crew, despite overwhelming odds. Was he still scared? Yes, he was. But hey, that's just a part of his character, whether anyone accepts it or not. The fact that he is a bit of a wuss actually makes Usopp a more realistic (and therefore, more engaging) character than most of the Straw-Hats IMO, but again, some people just don't want to see things that way, I guess......
As for him being comedy relief..... well sure, he's goofy. But half of the crew is made up of goofballs anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me (I love some of the facial expressions he makes, though! ). But... eh, whatever. That's all I really have to say, since I don't like getting into any big debates about why "X character is better/worse than Y character", so I'll drop the subject now. BTW, I wasn't forcing my opinions on anyone or anything, but just giving a little food for thought, you know? Anyway, going back on topic, I'm definitely interested in seeing what Garp is going to do now that Luffy's arrived at Marineford. I still think it's quite possible that he'll rebel against Sengoku, but I guess I can't rule out the possiblilty of him attempting to stop Luffy, either. Well, the next chapter's spoiler is apparently coming out early next week, so we probably won't be waiting too much longer...... |
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2009-09-09, 19:30 | Link #164 | |
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2009-09-09, 19:35 | Link #165 | |
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2009-09-09, 20:11 | Link #167 | |
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All we know is that Garp cornered and fought Roger to the death many times. That doesn't mean they were equals; and if he was on Roger's level, we would have been told so by now. Whitebeard is the only person mentioned to have stalemated Roger.
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Dragon is definitely going to be in the top tier. That just goes without saying, really. He is the world's most wanted man, which means he most likely has the highest bounty in the One Piece universe. He is the leader of the revolutionaries who are in direct contention with the World Government. He is the father of our protagonist Monkey D. Luffy. All of these things make him one extremely formidable adversary. Shanks is one of the four emperors. We know that the four emperors are the four strongest/greatest and most influential pirates residing in the New World, so that fact serves as some kind of indication that they're all relatively around the same level. Whitebeard just edges them out by a little for the reasons I already mentioned. Then we have Sengoku who is the fleet admiral of the marines. Whitebeard commented that he is one of the few people that truly knew the seas back during Roger's era. Getting respect and reverence from Whitebeard certainly merits Sengoku as being truly extraordinary.
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2009-09-09, 20:18 | Link #169 | |
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2. Shanks 3. Kaidou 4. Unknown
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2009-09-09, 20:36 | Link #171 | |
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The closest thing we have are 2 silouettes of them shown in one of the chapters, though I forget which one specificlly.
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2009-09-09, 20:36 | Link #172 |
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We have absolutely no idea who the 4th emperor is right now. I'm sure that mystery will be unveiled to us in due time. Perhaps in the aftermath of this war, we'll see what the 4th emperor's thoughts are after Whitebeard's death has shaken the entire world.
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It was stated clearly that Whitebeard is the Strongest Man in the World, and even Garp referred to him as the "King of the Seas" when he was talking to Ace in Impel Down. Even Sengoku, strong or not strong, is shook from his strength. The other Yonkou are strong, there's no doubt it about that, but its a reason why Whitebeard was named the strongest. And he proved it by causing 2 tsunami's that would have wiped out nearly all of the marine's fighting force (DF users), but luckily the World Government has Aokiji. Otherwise, with just one move, Whitebeard would have defeated the World Government. You telling me other Yonkou's have the capacity to do that? I don't think so. Besides Whitebeard is also a special character to Oda, being as though he modeled him after an old man he admired (or liked or something), that had passed away. |
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2009-09-10, 17:23 | Link #175 | |
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Yeah, Whitebeard's based on an old bartender that Oda knew who had roughly the same personality (and even the life support equipment!). I forget the specific source that info came from, though. I just know it was one of those special books that was released a few years back for the series' 10th anniversary...... Anyways, back to the Yonkou, I still have a feeling that Kaidou will make a special appearance at some point during the war. The fact that he tried to get the jump on Whitebeard before he made it to Marineford is already enough indication for me that he'll show up there in order to finish the job....... |
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2009-09-10, 17:39 | Link #176 | |
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2009-09-10, 18:07 | Link #177 |
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^All we know is that Shanks intercepted Kaidou's sneak attack on Whitebeard, and that's it. Whether or not they had any prolonged battle is still unknown, though I kinda doubt it (having two emperors warring against each other would only further screw up the world's balance, would it not?)......
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2009-09-10, 20:15 | Link #179 | |
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And i did say the reason i didn't want to believe it was because of wishful thinking...Don't have to argue it anymore as i admitted it wasn't arguable because it was stated clearly in the manga. My point is strength isn't like a test score...it can be judged in many different ways. For example..I don't see how whitebeard would defeat blackbeard since blackbeard can conquer gravity itself. |
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2009-09-10, 21:00 | Link #180 | |
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The balance is really how no single emperor is willing to attack the WG singlely and suffer huge losses and alliances of more than 2 emperors are just almost impossible, they are pirates who are individualistic, egolistic and most probably "prone to backstabbing". Also note that if 3 of the emperors do ever band together to take on the world government, the 4th one will likely take the chance to become the overlord of the seas as the attack will leave all 3 emperors and the WG too weak. So even a 3 emperor alliance is not going to happen. Sidenote: Just because the shichibukai added together is likely only to equal 1 emperor's powers is not an indication that they are much weaker. Note that so far none of the shichibukai have huge crews. The difference is more likely due to the lack support of good crew members. |
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