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Rovert10 · 2013-05-05, 09:20

I doubt it's just that simple.

kaizerknight01 · 2013-05-05, 09:24

Or a change in emotion or philosophy/enlightenment perhaps ..... Accel did get another dose of sermon form Touma being TouMAN XP

Von Himmel · 2013-05-05, 09:28

Reading that part again, he seem to understand more about 'magic calculation' in that mode. Not to mention Kamachi described the narration as 'unknown power' that made him flew with unimaginable speed

..not the exact phrase but it's something like that.

Speaking about AC development, those Kiharas are undoubtedly what caused them to advance so much

those guys are crazy.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-05, 09:35

His 100 meter wings used more than just the power of the wind. They also converted some more unknown energy into lift. He emitted no force down at the earth, but he still shot up like a bullet.

Unknown propulsion method.

kaizerknight01 · 2013-05-05, 09:42

sound pretty impressive but if you think Fimma 50 km energy/was it fire blade???

tsunade666 · 2013-05-05, 10:41

Fiamma just had a freaking bad ass sword. Its not a fire sword for that matter and isn't it 40 something kilometer? Fiamma can proudly say that "my sword is bigger and longer than yours"

And Fiamma doesn't really want to destroy Eurasia. He wants to curse it and turn the lands into an barren lands where people can't live anymore. A cursed land. Its worse than destroying it because he is altering the land so that the people will feel despair again and his power will become stronger again.

Hiss13 · 2013-05-05, 12:45

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

Fiamma just had a freaking bad ass sword. Its not a fire sword for that matter and isn't it 40 something kilometer? Fiamma can proudly say that "my sword is bigger and longer than yours"

Makes you wonder if he's trying to compensate for something...

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

And Fiamma doesn't really want to destroy Eurasia. He wants to curse it and turn the lands into an barren lands where people can't live anymore. A cursed land. Its worse than destroying it because he is altering the land so that the people will feel despair again and his power will become stronger again.

Technically, he doesn't want anything at this point. He's just being dragged around by Ollerus and Silvia because they wanted to have a new lackey.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-05, 16:34

Actually I'm pretty sure it was said to be a flaming sword...

DanielMors · 2013-05-05, 18:30

I was also pretty sure it was a flaming sword, but:

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Originally Posted by Volume 20, Chapter 2, Part 6

In the opening, he saw something like a wall of orange light.
Kamijou was one of the closest ones to the scene, but he did not know that a giant sword 30 or 40 kilometers long had been swung down. After all, the base of the sword, was so far away it was almost disappearing off the horizon.
[...]
Kamijou immediately held up his right hand, but he had only just destroyed the giant orange sword.

Orange light, but no mention of fire.

The To Aru Wiki on the other hand says:

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Originally Posted by To Aru Wiki

Flaming Sword — It is powerful 30–40 km magical sword massive enough to resist being negated by Imagine Breaker for some time.[13] This is likely symbolism for the Sword of Michael, said to be a flaming sword used by Archangel Michael to banish Lucifer from Heaven.

[13] refers to the excerpt above.

So... I guess no one really knows whether the sword burns or not.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-05, 18:32

I guess it might just be one of those pesky misinterpretation so commonly found here.

DanielMors · 2013-05-05, 18:53

Well, we are talking about an orange glowing sword used by a guy named Fiamma. I've seen worse misinterpretations than this.
It might very well be the case that the sword really is supposed to be burning, but Kamachi forgot to explicitely state it. The parallel to Michael's sword does sound like something Kamachi would do.

Polarpew · 2013-05-05, 19:53

Accel's black wings are actually dark matter, which is why the other lvl 5 admitted accel was the true center of the plan since dark matter is merely an offshoot of accel's power to control all vectors (theoretical and real)

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-05, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Polarpew

Accel's black wings are actually dark matter, which is why the other lvl 5 admitted accel was the true center of the plan since dark matter is merely an offshoot of accel's power to control all vectors (theoretical and real)

Actually the common accepted theory is that they are AIM wings, similar to Aiwass' golden wings but more crude.

tsunade666 · 2013-05-05, 20:17

Isn't Micheal's sword the la curtana of the royal family?

Accel and Kakine's wings are pure highly dense AIM. Its made the same way as angel's wings but the basic element that made up the structure is AIM instead of Telesma.

Rovert10 · 2013-05-05, 20:22

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Originally Posted by DanielMors

Well, we are talking about an orange glowing sword used by a guy named Fiamma. I've seen worse misinterpretations than this.
It might very well be the case that the sword really is supposed to be burning, but Kamachi forgot to explicitely state it. The parallel to Michael's sword does sound like something Kamachi would do.

Well flaming swords are mentioned numerous times within the Bible.
It goes all the way to Genesis when a flaming sword was used to oust Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden.
So it may as well be the flaming sword just from Biblical symbols and text alone considering this is the Christian faith.
Definately not normal fire but still.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-05, 20:23

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

Isn't Micheal's sword the la curtana of the royal family?

Some people think that the flaming sword that guards the path to Eden belongs to Michael.

(Or a Cherub)

Haigon · 2013-05-05, 20:38

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

Isn't Micheal's sword the la curtana of the royal family?

Curtuna was a regular sword that was meant to execute a English king, but Michael appears and slices it.

Or I'm wrong?

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Some people think that the flaming sword that guards the path to Eden belongs to Michael.

(Or a Cherub)

IIRC, the guard of Eden is Uriel.

EDIT: That don't make sense, how can the "Fire of God"'s element be wind?

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-05, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Haigon

IIRC, the guard of Eden is Uriel.

EDIT: That don't make sense, how can the "Fire of God"'s element be wind?

The wiki only said its a Cherub, and some people thinks its Michael.

The fire of god isnt literal.

And Uriel and Raphael have their elements mixed up remember?

Haigon · 2013-05-05, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

The wiki only said its a Cherub, and some people thinks its Michael.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Uriel is often identified as a cherub and angel of repentance.[4] He "stands at the Gate of Eden with a fiery sword",[5] or as the angel who "watches over thunder and terror".[6] In the Apocalypse of Peter he appears as the Angel of Repentance, who is graphically represented as being as pitiless as any demon. In the Life of Adam and Eve, Uriel is regarded as the spirit (i.e., one of the cherubs) of the third chapter of Genesis. He is also identified as one of the angels who helped bury Adam and Abel in Paradise.

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

And Uriel and Raphael have their elements mixed up remember?

Fiamma fixed it, or he only fixed Michael's?

tsunade666 · 2013-05-05, 21:09

Fiamma fix the alignment, element and direction of the archangels or the 4 pillars of creation or angels of direction or something. The 4 angels that will show in apocalypse.

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Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Reading that part again, he seem to understand more about 'magic calculation' in that mode. Not to mention Kamachi described the narration as 'unknown power' that made him flew with unimaginable speed ..not the exact phrase but it's something like that. Speaking about AC development, those Kiharas are undoubtedly what caused them to advance so much those guys are crazy. __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Fiamma just had a freaking bad ass sword. Its not a fire sword for that matter and isn't it 40 something kilometer? Fiamma can proudly say that "my sword is bigger and longer than yours" And Fiamma doesn't really want to destroy Eurasia. He wants to curse it and turn the lands into an barren lands where people can't live anymore. A cursed land. Its worse than destroying it because he is altering the land so that the people will feel despair again and his power will become stronger again. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

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Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Actually I'm pretty sure it was said to be a flaming sword... __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

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Rovert10 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I doubt it's just that simple.

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kaizerknight01 Extra Superior Otaku Join Date: Sep 2008	Or a change in emotion or philosophy/enlightenment perhaps ..... Accel did get another dose of sermon form Touma being TouMAN XP

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kaizerknight01 Extra Superior Otaku Join Date: Sep 2008	sound pretty impressive but if you think Fimma 50 km energy/was it fire blade???

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Isn't Micheal's sword the la curtana of the royal family? Accel and Kakine's wings are pure highly dense AIM. Its made the same way as angel's wings but the basic element that made up the structure is AIM instead of Telesma. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Fiamma fix the alignment, element and direction of the archangels or the 4 pillars of creation or angels of direction or something. The 4 angels that will show in apocalypse. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero