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Old 2014-12-28, 14:59   Link #5361
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Old 2014-12-28, 16:26   Link #5362
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Usually, I hate dense MCs that b are oblivious to love, but for some reason when it comes to Oga, I'm okay with it. It kinda adds to his charm.
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Old 2014-12-28, 16:34   Link #5363
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cept Hilda doesnt give a (no pun intended) royal crap about him
Yeah, that was the biggest problem this ship had to even set sai. But damn, would those two make a great demonic couple! xD
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Old 2014-12-29, 04:56   Link #5364
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This was definitely the best post-ending chapter that I've seen. Funny _and_ charming. And I thought that in the one panel showing Aoi crying she was drop-dead gorgeous.
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Old 2014-12-29, 05:01   Link #5365
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Aoi is always drop-dead gorgeous .. but yeah, I agree


damn, I hate Oga now for making her cry like that .. his denseness is seriously too much
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Old 2014-12-29, 05:39   Link #5366
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damn, I hate Oga now for making her cry like that .. his denseness is seriously too much
I believe that this is the most we are going to get, ever. Oga simply can't enter a requited romance without losing a defining part of his character. I don't think that we will ever see this happening, it would have required a different story development.

However, this chapter reaffirms that all his denseness notwithstanding, Oga and Aoi have formed an instinctive, deep understanding of each other. A mutual trust that was shown in the easy way that her challenge was accepted and concluded. It may be missing the romantic component that Aoi is wishing for, but the rest is all there. In this aspect, Aoi came the farthest of all girls.
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Old 2014-12-29, 07:45   Link #5367
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However, this chapter reaffirms that all his denseness notwithstanding, Oga and Aoi have formed an instinctive, deep understanding of each other. A mutual trust that was shown in the easy way that her challenge was accepted and concluded. It may be missing the romantic component that Aoi is wishing for, but the rest is all there. In this aspect, Aoi came the farthest of all girls.
Uhh bull***t Oga doesnt have a deep understanding of anything other then slaughter. The guy has fighting on the brain constantly so any relationship to him is meaningless. I hate to be so harsh but dont over analyze just to try to give what was a pure fan shipping any merit when there really isnt.
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Old 2014-12-29, 08:23   Link #5368
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Uhh bull***t Oga doesnt have a deep understanding of anything other then slaughter. The guy has fighting on the brain constantly so any relationship to him is meaningless. I hate to be so harsh but dont over analyze just to try to give what was a pure fan shipping any merit when there really isnt.
It's fine if you disagree ... but I don't think you're right. Take his interactions with Hebiko - it took endless questions and banter, and in the end they still didn't connect whatsoever. Oga completely misunderstood her from the beginning till the end.

In comparison, he instinctively understood what Aoi wanted - closure. They had one line of exchange, fought, and then things ended - with Aoi thanking him, because she got what she wanted.

This is exactly the kind of "relationship" that this blockhead has and also the extent to which he's able to connect. And Aoi understands that.
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Old 2014-12-29, 09:15   Link #5369
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It's fine if you disagree ... but I don't think you're right. Take his interactions with Hebiko - it took endless questions and banter, and in the end they still didn't connect whatsoever. Oga completely misunderstood her from the beginning till the end.

In comparison, he instinctively understood what Aoi wanted - closure. They had one line of exchange, fought, and then things ended - with Aoi thanking him, because she got what she wanted.

This is exactly the kind of "relationship" that this blockhead has and also the extent to which he's able to connect. And Aoi understands that.

You're missing something rather obvious.
Hebiko wanted romance and as you said Oga is a blockhead

Yes Aoi got her closure but thats because she realized the extent of their relationship is one of fighting and will never be romance.
Oga just got a fight and he thought he was thanking her for the fight.
And when has Oga ever shown any instincts that dont involve fighting. In Oga's mind she was thanking him for one last fight before they parted ways. In Aoi's mind she got closure because she realized that fighting was how they interact.
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Old 2014-12-29, 09:19   Link #5370
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And that is exactly what I wrote, isn't it?

Aoi and Oga _have_ formed an understanding and trust between each other. It does _not_ contain the romantic element that Aoi would wish for, but other than that, they know and get along with each other perfectly fine. Unlike Hebiko.
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Old 2014-12-29, 09:51   Link #5371
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And that is exactly what I wrote, isn't it?

Aoi and Oga _have_ formed an understanding and trust between each other. It does _not_ contain the romantic element that Aoi would wish for, but other than that, they know and get along with each other perfectly fine. Unlike Hebiko.
No its not because your explanation for the fight is different. Your words suggest that Oga accepted Aoi's fight because he knew that she wanted closure for her feelings (which was what Aoi intended).

What im saying is Oga accepted the fight simply because he wanted to fight. The reason didnt matter and it could've been anybody but he simply wanted to fight. There's no understanding involved. Oga probably thought she wanted one last fight with him before they graduated.

You're right that there was an understanding but it was Aoi's understanding of Oga's stupidity and that the only way that they could interact was through fighting. Oga has very little understanding of Aoi
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Old 2014-12-29, 10:23   Link #5372
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Kinda funny reading how everyone simple insults him because hes not love struck for their favorite girl?

It could just be hes simply not interested in girlfriends and stuff right now. too much drama. He just likes to fight and carrying around a naked baby is badass enough.

I am fine with him ignoring love drama. Its what makes Oga, Oga.

btw, I dont even think Aoi has confessed to him seriously anyway, blushing and vague hints isnt confessing. If she clearly asked him to be her boyfriend... she might even get a response?
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Old 2014-12-29, 10:29   Link #5373
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Kinda funny reading how everyone simple insults him because hes not love struck for their favorite girl?

It could just be hes simply not interested in girlfriends and stuff right now. too much drama. He just likes to fight and carrying around a naked baby is badass enough.

I am fine with him ignoring love drama. Its what makes Oga, Oga.

btw, I dont even think Aoi has confessed to him seriously anyway, blushing and vague hints isnt confessing. If she clearly asked him to be her boyfriend... she might even get a response?
What i insult people for is trying to put romance in a story that clearly doesnt have it. As for insults because they arent love struck for the favorite girl that is the basis of a shipping war.
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Old 2014-12-29, 10:46   Link #5374
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btw, I dont even think Aoi has confessed to him seriously anyway, blushing and vague hints isnt confessing. If she clearly asked him to be her boyfriend... she might even get a response?
not sure about Aoi, but .. didn't Hebiko literally say I AM IN LOVE WITH YOU and then hugged him ? .. and still - 0 understanding (unless he's pretending, because he's asexual/gay :P) .. what more do you need ?
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Old 2014-12-29, 10:57   Link #5375
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Actually guys, wasn't there a girl where Oga did not misunderstood "kissing" and "sleeping together" with "I break your arms" or "I break your back"?
Remember?
The girl from who Oga, the demon overlord of all delinquents of the city, ran away like a b!tch?

I'm talking about MoeHilda!

I can't remember a scene with MoeHilda where Oga tried to hit her or throw her or otherwise hurt her physically. And when he heard that she needed a "kiss" to wake up, he totally flipped his shit BECAUSE he fully understood what this means. XDDD

I know, that MoeHilda wasn't liked by some readers, but I for one enjoyed how a girl made Oga feel so helpless despite his strength and fearsome aura and that simply due her wanting to be his cute, adorable and lovely wife and housewoman. <3
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Old 2014-12-29, 11:13   Link #5376
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No, I'm completely with Mentar on this one.

You can see that this is more than just a fight to Oga - right after Aoi challenges him to a fight in pg25, Oga smiles to himself in one small panel, which suggests that he knows more about this than he's letting on. Aoi smiles in return: both knows this is no mere fight. That's why the fight ends poignantly, with him asking if she 'feels better' - note that he has never extended this courtesy to her before. Or anyone at all.

In the second last page, Aoi calls out to him, and Oga pauses. In classic anime frame, his expression is the only one that couldn't be seen, and we see Aoi saying 'thank you' to him (it appears Nene has an indication that something has indeed happened). It's a blink and you'll miss it moment - note all the little panels laid out in the manga frames, especially with Oga, and you'll see there's a deeper connotation than what you're proposing.

I agree with the comments that says romance has no place in this series. I, however, have a problem with simplifying and watering the series down to the other extreme, where people think Oga is nothing more than a mindless shounen brute.
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Old 2014-12-29, 18:25   Link #5377
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Wow; I cant believe you guys are expecting something with Oga?>.. Guy is a world-class dunce the only one who can make Oga become powerless is Hilda or rather Memory-loss Hilda. But still its shown on that chapter that even Oga has an understanding with romance its just being a dunce is much more comfortable to him than rejecting a person. From my POV Oga is just a guy who cant put his feelings into words.
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Old 2014-12-29, 18:54   Link #5378
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^ That's right so he puts his feelings into his fists.

Heh, blame Misaki for Oga's inability to grasp anything outside of a fight. Oga can put 2+2 together and even do 2+a = 4 at times as well but it's rare. He understands the core nature of a person, he doesn't really like to bother with everything else that goes with a person such as their responsibilities, their past, or things like that.

He might not have romance in his head for Aoi (such as we see it) but there is a relationship there that only Hilda can come anywhere close to. Just because she likes him doesn't make him obligated to answer back exactly the same way. Would be nice but...*shrugs* He understands Hilda since she also uses 'brute force tactics' on par or even above his own. Her being a demon and constantly saying that she's only interested as long as Beel is kinda puts him out for that.

Aoi doesn't want that. She's going using a different path. Unfortunately, this is the much longer, harder path to take. Bless Aoi, she's trying to make him be a man as 'normal society' sees they should act but he doesn't care. It's going to be a loooong, slow process. If she had a slightly more straight-forward personality, she probably would be his girlfriend right now. As such, Oga's probably picked up the 'clues', looked at them, and then got a big '?' above his head since he doesn't know what the hell he's holding.
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Old 2015-03-21, 22:43   Link #5379
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Beelzebub Side Story ch6 was released today, apparently its the last chapter.
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Old 2015-03-21, 23:54   Link #5380
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Yup, Beelzebub is done. It was a fun ride, but there was a lot of wasted potential, too. I liked that Hilda hesitated when she stated that they would never come back.
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