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In the odd-numbered Episodes, there is a variable X that forces Kanon to be considered dead, whether or not he actually is dead. In the even-numbered Episodes, there is a variable Y that forces Kanon to be considered missing, even though he definitely is dead. And the author always includes that variable in each odd/even Episode. Which is why Kanon is "dead or missing" in alternating Episodes. And it's possible, (I don't know if I believe this, though) that the variable is whether or not Kanon is fictional. |
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2010-06-12, 05:17 | Link #10944 |
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@Seagull The author didn't create the character Kanon though did he? Even it's fiction it's a fiction based on an accident that really happened in the Umineko universe.
So he's (presumably) based on a person, possibly not a real person if he's the same as somebody else, but presumably if he was real person he is based off someone with a real flesh and blood body. That stays true even if how he dies is different each time.
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2010-06-12, 05:27 | Link #10945 | |
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There is one setback, and it's that Battler doesn't see Kanon in EP3 either. Unless I'm not remembering it correctly, it kind of breaks the pattern. |
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2010-06-12, 05:32 | Link #10946 | |
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2010-06-12, 05:40 | Link #10947 | |
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The interesting thing is, right before Kanon goes missing in EP6, Kanon and Shannon both have a duel. Since Shannon won that duel, I think it might actually be the opposite of what you said. In even-numbered Episodes, Shannon wins the duel.....Maybe she shoots Kanon (it would explain his chest wound every time) and hides his corpse for Reason Z. Since the detective never sees Kanon in even-numbered Episodes, there are no contradictions. Now THAT would be interesting. |
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2010-06-12, 07:12 | Link #10948 | |
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2010-06-12, 14:21 | Link #10949 | |
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The detective actually does see Kanon in in episode 2 though. It's in the hallway before they go into the chapel, and in the chapel before Jessica and Kanon leave.
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2010-06-12, 15:28 | Link #10950 | |
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It still works if Kanon and Shannon had the duel after Jessica and Kanon left the chapel. Because Shannon was supposedly with Kinzo writing his will, but we know that's impossible. So the duel takes place immediately before Kanon's disappearance, not at the beginning of the game. |
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2010-06-12, 15:58 | Link #10951 | |
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2010-06-12, 19:22 | Link #10953 |
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Hmm, I've always liked this theory better than the Shkanon interpretation of Kanon's "Schrödinger's cat"-like existence, and now I think we should see how that would work into/help the closed room in EP6.
It would make Beato's introduction of Kanon as a variable almost completely irrelevant, for one thing (aside from the fact that it would imply that this is where Shannon stashed his body - probably in the closet, more specifically). Any other ideas?
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2010-06-13, 02:08 | Link #10956 | |
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But since I didn't want to accept Shkanon I found a way around it. Sort of. You disregarded the witch's side. If you take out Kinzo and Maria from the original 18 and add them to the witch's side, you get 16 pieces for the human side. And 16 for the witch's side: Spoiler for witch's side:
This wasn't really meant to deny your theory, but it's a way to get around it without using Shkanon. |
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2010-06-13, 03:09 | Link #10959 | |
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Unless Pony theory makes a comeback. ...that would not be a good thing. |
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2010-06-13, 04:04 | Link #10960 | |
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I'm afraid that both Shannon's and Jessica's and even Kanon's fanon interpretations ran very far away from letting them do anything of the sort long ago.
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