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Simplicity · 2009-09-03, 12:56

Well the underage drinking in this scene didn't exactly result in having a good 'ole time like the novel version of Lone Island syndrome. It's shown that it's very bad to spike someone's drink, just look at Kyon's reaction. So I'm not surpised they kept (...well if, since I can't say for sure without the subs) that part of the scene in tact.

Jonbob0008 · 2009-09-03, 13:22

What I never understood about that scene was how Mikuru never noticed that their was tequila in her drink. If you've ever mixed tequila (or any alcoholic beverage with significant alcoholic content) you'd know that even if you water it down with whatever they were drinking that you'd still likely taste it. I'd find it hard to believe that Mikuru wouldn't have gone and said "My drink tastes funny" or something along thoses lines.

Ithekro · 2009-09-03, 13:50

Unless they don't have milk or whatever it was in the future.....If she's never tasted whatever it is Tsuruya served, how could she know it tasted funny?

Xiomay · 2009-09-03, 13:54

This scene was amazing, although I do agree that I expected Haruhi to act more violent towards Mikuru, but underage drinking AND harsh abuse, probably would have been pushing it a bit too much, especially considering that even Kyon was on his last nerve from decking Haruhi.

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Originally Posted by Jonbob0008

I'd find it hard to believe that Mikuru wouldn't have gone and said "My drink tastes funny" or something along thoses lines.

Same here =/

But nope, she just gulped it all down without even flinching. And by the way, what were the drinks given to everybody? It looked like milk to me.

Triple_R · 2009-09-03, 14:49

I personally don't see what would be the problem if the drink given to Mikuru simply contained some sort of sleeping pill dissolved into it instead of mixed tequila.

Actually, to me, it's more important that Haruhi's degree of abuse of Mikuru feel right (not too excessive, but not too mild either) as opposed to what, ultimately, puts Mikuru in a drowsy and tipsy-turvy state.

Mind you, I say this with out seeing the episode yet, so I can't comment on how effectively the episode conveys these aspects of the scene in question.

Daniel Lind · 2009-09-03, 15:02

So that was amazake Mikuru was drunk with.
Oh the adaptations. Tequila, huh! Nyoro~

Or... Was it amazake in novels?
Because they give this stuff to kids, even, that's not your Lone Island alcohol party.
(I guess ingridients vary though)

Anyway, brilliant episode. Completely as expected.
Kind of sad that we only have one more to go...

Triple_R · 2009-09-03, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Daniel Lind

So that was amazake Mikuru was drunk with.
Oh the adaptations. Tequila, huh! Nyoro~

Going by your link there, that sounds quite a bit weaker than Tequila.

Pretty funny if this is all it takes to get the SOS Brigade drunk, lol.

Daniel Lind · 2009-09-03, 15:14

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Going by your link there, that sounds quite a bit weaker than Tequila.

Yep. I looked this up, it's tequila in the original japanese novel text.
Censorship ahoooooooy!

Triple_R · 2009-09-03, 15:15

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Originally Posted by Daniel Lind

Yep. I looked this up, it's tequila in the original japanese novel text.
Censorship ahoooooooy!

I don't know what to think about this change.

On the one hand, it makes it less of a deal that Mikuru gulped it down so easily. On the other hand, it's pretty sad that one glass of this gets her drunk...

Tyabann · 2009-09-03, 15:23

Mikuru has zero tolerance... she passes out after, like, two glasses of wine... and honestly, they are not going to get away with giving her tequila on broadcast television.

Daniel Lind · 2009-09-03, 15:24

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On the other hand, it's pretty sad that one glass of this gets her drunk...

Moreover, that was juice+amazake, not just amazake alone.

I wonder if they will go and edit the line for the DVD.

Toonleap · 2009-09-03, 15:31

Worked so hard today that I almost forgot...

Spoiler for Screenshots and some spoilers:

Great episode....I wonder what could have happened if Itsuki was not there to stop Kyon? An scary thought.

Roger Rambo · 2009-09-03, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Toonleap

Great episode....I wonder what could have happened if Itsuki was not there to stop Kyon? An scary thought.

The bad end.

Triple_R · 2009-09-03, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Toonleap

Worked so hard today that I almost forgot...

Spoiler for Screenshots and some spoilers:

Great episode....I wonder what could have happened if Itsuki was not there to stop Kyon? An scary thought.

Nice episode review, by the way... especially since you're doing it off of the raw, wow. Your screenshot selection is really nice.

Anyway... I can't really blame Kyon for snapping here. Presuming he cares about Mikuru even half as much as his narration would have you believe, there had to eventually come a point when Haruhi would cross the line with him, when it came to her treatment of Mikuru. In a way, I'm glad Kyon at least has enough testicular fortitude to not stand idly by while a girl he cares about gets constantly mistreated.

Toonleap · 2009-09-03, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Nice episode review, by the way... especially since you're doing it off of the raw, wow. Your screenshot selection is really nice.

Anyway... I can't really blame Kyon for snapping here. Presuming he cares about Mikuru even half as much as his narration would have you believe, there had to eventually come a point when Haruhi would cross the line with him, when it came to her treatment of Mikuru. In a way, I'm glad Kyon at least has enough testicular fortitude to not stand idly by while a girl he cares about gets constantly mistreated.

Thanks for your comments. Yeah, it was time for Kyon to do something...Glad Itsuki was there...By the way, come to the site and take the poll....

Lets see what people think about punching Haruhi...

Triple_R · 2009-09-03, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Toonleap

Thanks for your comments. Yeah, it was time for Kyon to do something...Glad Itsuki was there...By the way, come to the site and take the poll....

Lets see what people think about punching Haruhi...

At my height and weight, I would never punch Haruhi... it would be like child abuse.

Mind you, in fairness, she'd probably be too slippery for me anyway, lol.

In all seriousness, I'm kind of old-fashioned in that I don't think that a guy should hit a girl except in necessary self-defense... although Kyon's situation is a tricky one (do you hit one girl to protect another?).

Toonleap · 2009-09-03, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

At my height and weight, I would never punch Haruhi... it would be like child abuse.

Mind you, in fairness, she'd probably be too slippery for me anyway, lol.

In all seriousness, I'm kind of old-fashioned in that I don't think that a guy should hit a girl except in necessary self-defense... although Kyon's situation is a tricky one (do you hit one girl to protect another?).

I can see some debate on this one...Probably a slap would do it, but Kyon was willing to do something more there....

Personally, I wouldnt dare to hit a girl...That's bad....

ReneeBurossamu · 2009-09-03, 17:43

Awesome. I watched, and the animation quality was great, just like everyone is saying. It's very season 1-ish, and by far the best that I've seen from these new episodes.
The tension was very nice here too. But I feel like they completely just "undertoned" Haruhi's meanness.

It was awesome that Kyon grew balls this time around. It wasn't really that awesome that Koizumi was around to stop it. Also, this makes me wonder how strong Koizumi really is, considering that he could stop Kyon from pulling his whole arm out of his grip. Hmmm.
... I would've punched Haruhi. I'm a girl though, so...

DJ Trouble · 2009-09-03, 17:54

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Originally Posted by ReneeBurossamu

Also, this makes me wonder how strong Koizumi really is, considering that he could stop Kyon from pulling his whole arm out of his grip. Hmmm.

There's also the fact that Kyon seemed to be struggling quite a bit, while Koizumi wasn't even trying.

I was disappointed with the lack of violence from Haruhi. Kyon snapping at her felt uncalled for. Stopping her wasn't out of place, but his level of anger didn't match the provocation, so it felt really off to me. Oh well, I knew it would happen.

Heminga13 · 2009-09-03, 17:56

I think Kyon was more pissed about realizing what they did with Mikuru's drink. Whatever Haruhi said after that set him off.

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2009-09-03, 13:50	Link #43
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Unless they don't have milk or whatever it was in the future.....If she's never tasted whatever it is Tsuruya served, how could she know it tasted funny? __________________

2009-09-03, 14:49	Link #45
Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	I personally don't see what would be the problem if the drink given to Mikuru simply contained some sort of sleeping pill dissolved into it instead of mixed tequila. Actually, to me, it's more important that Haruhi's degree of abuse of Mikuru feel right (not too excessive, but not too mild either) as opposed to what, ultimately, puts Mikuru in a drowsy and tipsy-turvy state. Mind you, I say this with out seeing the episode yet, so I can't comment on how effectively the episode conveys these aspects of the scene in question. __________________

2009-09-03, 15:31	Link #52
Toonleap Member Join Date: Jun 2006	Worked so hard today that I almost forgot... Spoiler for Screenshots and some spoilers: Late post with screenshots...oh well... Great episode....I wonder what could have happened if Itsuki was not there to stop Kyon? An scary thought.

2009-09-03, 17:56	Link #60
Heminga13 Wannabe Sleuth Join Date: Apr 2009 Age: 35	I think Kyon was more pissed about realizing what they did with Mikuru's drink. Whatever Haruhi said after that set him off. __________________ If you're interested in what I'm watching, click here. Heminga13: Speculating and anticipating 'The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya' movie since August 3, 2009.

2009-09-03, 12:56	Link #41
Simplicity Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Well the underage drinking in this scene didn't exactly result in having a good 'ole time like the novel version of Lone Island syndrome. It's shown that it's very bad to spike someone's drink, just look at Kyon's reaction. So I'm not surpised they kept (...well if, since I can't say for sure without the subs) that part of the scene in tact.

2009-09-03, 13:22	Link #42
Jonbob0008 The Last Loner Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Minnesota Age: 40	What I never understood about that scene was how Mikuru never noticed that their was tequila in her drink. If you've ever mixed tequila (or any alcoholic beverage with significant alcoholic content) you'd know that even if you water it down with whatever they were drinking that you'd still likely taste it. I'd find it hard to believe that Mikuru wouldn't have gone and said "My drink tastes funny" or something along thoses lines.

2009-09-03, 15:02	Link #46
Daniel Lind ロック・オン！ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nizhny Novgorod, Russia	So that was amazake Mikuru was drunk with. Oh the adaptations. Tequila, huh! Nyoro~ Or... Was it amazake in novels? Because they give this stuff to kids, even, that's not your Lone Island alcohol party. (I guess ingridients vary though) Anyway, brilliant episode. Completely as expected. Kind of sad that we only have one more to go...

2009-09-03, 15:23	Link #50
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	Mikuru has zero tolerance... she passes out after, like, two glasses of wine... and honestly, they are not going to get away with giving her tequila on broadcast television.

2009-09-03, 17:43	Link #58
ReneeBurossamu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Awesome. I watched, and the animation quality was great, just like everyone is saying. It's very season 1-ish, and by far the best that I've seen from these new episodes. The tension was very nice here too. But I feel like they completely just "undertoned" Haruhi's meanness. It was awesome that Kyon grew balls this time around. It wasn't really that awesome that Koizumi was around to stop it. Also, this makes me wonder how strong Koizumi really is, considering that he could stop Kyon from pulling his whole arm out of his grip. Hmmm. ... I would've punched Haruhi. I'm a girl though, so...