2012-04-20, 11:37 | Link #8081 | |
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As for your "excuse", explain this too. 1st Poll Zen - 554 Munakata - 323 2nd Poll Zen - 672 Munakata - 807 You can say Zen was treated like a side character and barely had any importance in that arc even though it's flat out untrue.. but Kei wasn't even in that arc period and had a near 500 jump in votes. EDIT - A lot of these votes would've been based off the MINUS ARC, not the NotEquals arc, think of the timeframe and don't forget that TOC votes themselves are 8 weeks back. |
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2012-04-20, 11:42 | Link #8082 | |
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2012-04-20, 11:45 | Link #8083 | |
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2012-04-20, 11:59 | Link #8084 | |
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Anyway first that comes to mind is Nura, the human half definately didn't make top 4 and I have no idea where he actually ranked but I'm pretty sure it was bad. There's a few others. |
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2012-04-20, 12:03 | Link #8085 | |
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Regarding Zenkichi's popularity rising due to his recent focus in the story...this may or may not be true. However, looking at the Medaka Box's performance in the ToC rankings from the end of the Treasure Hunt/Clock Tower segment, it seems like the actual content of the story during that part of the manga wasn't very popular. Regardless of whether Zenkichi actually gained any fans back due to his recent focus in the story, I think it's at least clear that the focus/content of that story--Zenkichi pursuing his love for Medaka--isn't very popular. |
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2012-04-20, 12:09 | Link #8086 | |
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Such consistent writing that would be. |
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2012-04-20, 12:10 | Link #8087 | |
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2012-04-20, 12:27 | Link #8090 | |
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2012-04-20, 12:28 | Link #8091 | |
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And I never said he wasn't, I was just pointing out some his flaws which would make Medaka falling in love with him currently not seem very consistent. In the future maybe if there's sufficient character development for both of their characters but not currently.
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2012-04-20, 13:00 | Link #8092 | |
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Medaka is obviously dependent on Zen for certain emotional reasons (i.e. she believes things like "He's the only one who would never leave me alone", etc.) but I wouldn't take Medaka's words regarding "competing" with Zen as especially meaningful. Part of Medaka's humility is that she's always respecting and thinking highly of others; you can find similar statements by Medaka about "the strongest person I know", etc. about Akune. Medaka simply enjoys/admires people's independence and strength in general; in a way, Akune and Zenkichi's growth away from their worship and dependence on Medaka is a reflection of what Zenkichi lead for the rest of the entire student body. |
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2012-04-20, 14:14 | Link #8093 |
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I'm pretty sure Medaka would've casually proposed marriage to any number of people who she respects. Akune, Hinokage, probably Zenkichi of course after his election victory. I wouldn't take the line too seriously as "shipping" between Medaka and Kumagawa.
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2012-04-20, 15:40 | Link #8095 | |
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Well, at least Zenkichi, is first among the four best fights of the series (although also be Kumagawa).
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2012-04-20, 16:22 | Link #8096 | |
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On a separate aspect, Medaka's statement was explicitly spoken in connection with marriage. This has specific implications which I think are fairly limited to individuals like Kumagawa. The thing is that marriage in Japan has a lot of formal/social implications which don't necessarily have any connection to romanticism; particularly in the case of upper class marriages, which is is most definitely the scenario for Medaka herself. In saying that she would consent to a practically immediate marriage to Kumagawa, Medaka is confessing first of all that she has a trust/confidence in Misogi regarding all of those social conditions. The romantic aspect is secondary (I am not certain Medaka has any determined concept of romanticism), and is suitable to be left for later; the aforementioned "respect" we have been talking is the primary basis for having confidence that that will somehow work out. The point here I am saying, then, is that this is actually a fairly specific compliment (or a compliment in a fairly specific area) from Medaka to Kumagawa. Certainly Medaka would probably agree to "go out" with Zenkichi or Kouki (after she's thought about various other people's feelings, I guess, if she noticed them). However, on the issue of marriage, I think Medaka's "If it's you, Kumagawa" applies more or less specifically. This is because Kumagawa is one of the rare people actually romantically interested in Medaka who hasn't gone through the whole admiration/idolation "Medaka is perfect/always right" stage. Zenkichi/Kouki may have matured/stepped towards independence, but they have still barely started their lives without her. Any romantic relationship Medaka could have with them would have to be tempered by the fact that they would need to keep some distance so as not to regress that growth. It would need to be proceeded gradually (i.e. through dating/courtship), rather than stepping immediately into such ostentatiously unified/intimate roles as "wife"/"husband". The dynamics of their relationships are highly different from the one Medaka has with Kumagawa, whereby Kumagawa's independence from Medaka has long been established already. If you ask me, "I'd marry you tomorrow, Kumagawa" says that Medaka wouldn't mind getting closer to Misogi (yes, even that close). This is in contrast to her relationships with Akune and Zenkichi, where the important thing is actually their ability to stand individually. So, as far as shipping material, I think it's fairly favourable for Misogi. In terms of overall possibilities regarding whether the romance in Medaka Box will actually go somewhere, I think Kumagawa is in fact extremely obvious second choice. |
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2012-04-20, 17:21 | Link #8097 | |
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2012-04-20, 17:26 | Link #8099 |
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Harsh but true, her precise reasoning with him was he saw her as a woman. That could damn near apply to practically anyone that really wanted to be with her. Really though it's bad characterization Medaka's far too willing to propose marriage to random people not even most manga characters are that quick to do that. It's just extremely weird.
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2012-04-20, 17:26 | Link #8100 | |
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