2012-11-07, 02:57 | Link #2661 |
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Wikipedia lists the referendum on the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico as the following:
"The referendum resulted in 53.8% of voters voting to change the political status, and 61.9% opting for Statehood." If this is the case (and the local government and others somehow don't fight it), they will take the case to Congress for statehood as per Constitutional rules of such things. Their statehood must pass both houses and be signed by the President. The President (and Romney) has said he would back whatever the referendum (the will of the people I suppose) said. I don't imagine too much trouble in Congress over it since it is potentally a benefit to either party depending on how they manage it.
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2012-11-07, 02:57 | Link #2662 | |
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Considering many PRs live in the USA already and more keep coming I see nothing wrong with welcoming them as fellow American brothers and sisters since they pretty much are already.
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2012-11-07, 02:59 | Link #2663 | |
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They're driving off the Latino vote, they have no chance of recovering the black vote, the asian vote is mixed. They're losing the young people over their intransigence on social issues. They've even lost the imaginary high ground on being the "party of fiscal responsibility". They simply aren't that any more and they look like idiots when they bark about the budget now. Its a primary driver of many of these faux voter ID laws. The courts are rightfully shooting them down because they're simply poll taxes in fancy clothes. A blatant attempt to reduce the ability of the poor, students, the elderly, working class people to be able to vote. VOTER fraud is not even at noise level. Vote COUNTING fraud and vote SUPPRESSION, otoh, is well above noise level. If you're not going to revamp yourself, the only other course is to keep those who don't follow you from voting. :P
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2012-11-07, 03:05 | Link #2664 | |
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The marriage amendment: REJECTED
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2012-11-07, 03:09 | Link #2665 |
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Which one? There were four states with the issue on the ballot.
Edit: Apparently, the only one not winning is Minnesota (though that's a projection if I understand it) (88% reporting with a difference of a 100,000 or so in yea/nay) Main, Maryland, and Washington State all cleared the hurdle by a fair margin.
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2012-11-07, 03:16 | Link #2667 | ||
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OH... I see. The Minnesota one was written reverse grammar.
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2012-11-07, 03:16 | Link #2668 |
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Yes, the amendment that loses is the one that would put "Marriage is for Man and Woman" into the Minnesotan Constitution; in other words, a defeat of the ballot here is a victory for gay marriage, albeit an incomplete one -- it is still not legal in Minnesota, but it signals the first sweep of a great wind.
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2012-11-07, 03:20 | Link #2669 | |
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On another subject, I'm glad people are recognizing Nate Silver, but we need them to recognize him for his excellent mathematics on voter RATIO rather than the oversimplified "Oh, X state won, he's a genius!" |
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2012-11-07, 03:23 | Link #2670 | |
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2012-11-07, 03:52 | Link #2672 |
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And Mary's been legalized in Colorado and Washington. Once the border states do this in the next seventy billion years, the Mexican cartels will be feeling the same butt pain Beck and Hannity are feeling right now. Or in this case, culo dolor.
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2012-11-07, 06:49 | Link #2677 |
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I honestly don't want to come over as vindictive, but the way I see it, the main victory of this last night was that the Foxnews/Tea Party/GOP alternate reality bubble has been punctured, plainly clear for everyone to see.
So here's hoping that due to the clear necessity to widen its tent, the GOP will hopefully stop their self-engineered reentrenchment and obstruction. Calling it the most important task to make sure BO is a one-term president has failed, and failed in a time where even an average "normal" candidate should have had a serious shot. It will be interesting to see if the self-immunizing victimization narrative ("Whites are the minority now" or "The 47% takers paid their dues") will eventually make way to a more realistic assessment. If so, things could be looking up in America. Because I don't see Obama as the leftist firebreather communist at all he's been painted by the GOP all the time, he's a centrist. Maybe America could *gasp* get something done via compromise? Not like there's not enough work cut out? So glad the Foxnews "Reality Marble" collapsed... |
2012-11-07, 06:56 | Link #2678 |
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That's pretty much my view too. The GOP had been performing self hypnotism and ignoring the reality. It's not just that they lost; they literally did not understand WHY they lost because they no longer pay attention to the real world.
Now the illusion has dissipated, and they saw that they were living a lie. The question is if they would go back to sleep, or face reality.
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2012-11-07, 07:17 | Link #2680 | ||
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Now look at Aohige. Now look at Vexx. Finally look at Seijisensei. Do you feel young now? *runs*
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