2010-10-27, 08:50 | Link #21 |
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^Personally, I tend to (partially) agree with Shankss and Hisoka on this. Seeing Rayleigh do his Gandalf impression was certainly fun and cool and badass. But then, Hancock shows up for no real reason. Okay, whatever, I love Hancock, and I've been waiting for Sanji's reaction to her for ages now. So, kinda cool. But then, Herculesun shows up. Okay...what? And then the Weatheria professors show...come on Oda, this is getting a little silly now. And then the Okama Brigade appears......
Undoubtedly, Oda did all this as a proper send-off, but I can't help but wonder why he actually thought the fans needed such a scene, especially considering a similar scene already played out with Brook just last week. Whatever the case, at least the Strawhats are finally reunited and the story can pick up again. Can't wait to see how Jinbei has changed (also can't wait to find out how he can still hang around Fishman Island without the WG trying to kill him). (Additionally, Perona is cuter than ever…) |
2010-10-27, 09:54 | Link #24 |
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Oda loves these kind of things. That's one of One Piece's problems at this point. While the scale of the story gets bigger, the related cast and characters do as well, and Oda makes an effort to give props to every character related to the events, even if it takes a lot of chapters.
At this rate, by chapter 700, it'll take 2 chapters just to show the reaction of all the interested parties regarding the return of the Strawhats. ( Vivi, Dadan, Makino, Garp, Admirals, Dragon, Baratie, Zoro's Teacher, Nami's Island, Kaya, etc. ) and 3 chapters by chapter 800.
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2010-10-27, 10:35 | Link #28 | |
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It's not hard to see why there master and friends they spend the last 2 years with would help them. All of them want the SH to get to FI with out problems or for them to get delay . There going to stick around until they see them off like what friends would do . Oda not doing something like this would be strange , he's going to show the people that help them one last time for a while. |
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2010-10-27, 10:38 | Link #29 | |
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ioh they are still arround on the island, and is not like they don't have a reason to help them... it's just like a farewell gift or showing the bond between them...
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2010-10-27, 10:43 | Link #30 |
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They are the ones that brought them. What with this "they have no reason to be there" nonsense? Is it wrong to help/send off someone you been with for 2 years? It's not, this is One Piece. Friendship.
Sanji's/Luffy reaction was winrar for me in this chapter.
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2010-10-27, 10:49 | Link #31 |
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Good one
I personally think that's not that bad to see almost everyone related to the SHs in the past two years showing up. Oda simply makes it clear that the SHs not only trained hard but also made friends and strong allies respectively in different places which is an important pre-condition for Luffy to become the pirate king. Besides, Hancock had to watch Luffy's back because he was paddling his way to Sabaody Archipelago and couldn't swim (if he fell into water); Zorro needed Perona to not get lost; Sanji probably didn't need those okamas to get back but they simply loved to pursuit him LOL; Chopper and Nami were brought to the islands by their mentors/friends as well. So it makes sense that all their allies are still around and help them to escape as a farewell and a demonstration of the crews new power in addition to their physical strengh. I find the chapter rather sweet than inapt, but it would be definitely more interesting to see at least one of the admirals standing in their way. |
2010-10-27, 11:07 | Link #32 |
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The problem isn't really that these characters appeared (though I understand Small One's comment concerning the issue), but rather that Oda never properly set-up their inclusion. Why the hell is Boa even at Sabaody? Let alone the Weatheria professors or Herculesun or that big ass bird or even Perona? At least the Okama showed up with Sanji, so there presence on the Island was known, but all the other characters pop up simply to let Luffy escape a little faster. So, instead of Oda giving us a brief moment (say, 4 or so pages) of the Strawhats taking out fodder to escape, we instead get a bunch of characters that aren't supposed to be there (and have already said their goodbyes) popping up to defeat mooks. Oda would have been better served to simply show the goodbyes originally, or to at least hint that these characters were still on the island...
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2010-10-27, 11:15 | Link #33 | |
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Also how much an explanation is really needed... is it so hard to believe that each of the strawhats were not alone when they came back. They likely all had some kind of escort... as for Boa, i mean come on she is completely obcessed with Luffy, why WOULDN'T she stop by to make sure his departure went un-hindered |
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the 'teachers' (most of them) will quite likely never see their SH pupils again ever - so yeah, it's alright to send em off without a hitch
epic chapter, mega-cute winking Boa, poor Sanji and FINALLY THE NEW WORLD BECKONS (but first Fishman Island) Quote:
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2010-10-27, 11:47 | Link #35 | |
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I love Perona's new outfit. She looks a lot cuter now.
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2010-10-27, 11:51 | Link #36 | |
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2010-10-27, 11:51 | Link #37 | |
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You guys made up in your minds that they already left when we never saw them leave or any hints were showed. Oda does not have to set up every little thing . In fact it makes more sense that they are still on the island. Ray lives there . Boa not going to leave until she see luffy goes to FI that how she is. The okama's just got there . If Perona left the island with Zoro why would she go back so fast after 2 years. Ussop master has been stuck on island for how many years it's not like he has any where to go. Bird came with chopper , it will stick around until he leaves . Same for the Weatheria . What reason do have to leave just because they drop off the SH. There not only Masters to SH but also friends they spend last 2 years with . OP is about dreams and friendship and that's the reason they stick around to help them. |
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2010-10-27, 12:46 | Link #40 |
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Sanji's reactions to Hancock, Nami and Robin and the fact Luffy was on Amazon Lily was absolutely hilarious. xD
Perona's new look wasn't what I was expecting when I read the description, but it still suits her character so I'm not complaining. Finally it's time for the Fishman Island arc.~
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