2009-09-23, 16:43 | Link #41 |
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Kuma did what could be the best thing possible during the situation.
Even with Rayleigh taking on Kizaru, the Strawhats would still be defeated by Sentoumaru and the Pacifistas. The appearance of Kuma is like a godsent miracle. Not only did they get a chance to escape, they get a chance to become stronger and when they reunite, their bonds will become stronger than before.
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2009-09-23, 17:21 | Link #42 |
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So, how did Moria create his new zombies? After all, If the shadow's original body was left out in the sun, it would burst into dust, and the zombie would collapse. So, did Moria hide away some injured soldiers/pirates in order to make his zombies? Or is something new going on?
I do like that his sights are still set on Luffy. Here's hoping for a rematch (yes, I know that Jinbei attacks him, but still...). I did like everyone's reaction to the news that Luffy was Dragon's son. Easily comparable to the reactions seen when Ace was announced as Roger's son... |
2009-09-23, 17:34 | Link #43 |
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o, Luffy vs Hina am not to bothered about ~ but i hope this leads to the Smoker vs Luffy rematch at last. His logia doesn't seem to have any real weakness that i can see (like Crocodile and Enel), this should be where Luffy starts to realize his powerful Haki.
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I thought about it as well, and the only conclusion I can think of right now is that Moria used his own shadow to reanimate those corpses. My guess is that maybe he split it into several fragments (like when he does his Brick Bat) to pull off this feat. After all, we know that he can take control of zombies that were already animated through other foreign shadows (like when he manipulated Luffy's shadow so Oz could stretch his limbs), so maybe he can already manipulate several zombies at once with his own shadow, though it obviously wouldn't be as effective as using the shadow of another powerful warrior...... Quote:
Not that I don't like the idea of a rematch between those two or anything, but I figure that Luffy is already "done" with Moria. Luffy already pushed him a great deal at Thriller Bark, and I doubt that he has too many more tricks to throw at him, unless it's a new zombie warrior that's stronger than Oz. Not that Moria himself is a pushover, of course (he's far from it), but I don't really think there's much more meaning in a rematch between him and Luffy. I'd much rather see the shadow man fighting against Whitebeard's forces...... |
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2009-09-23, 19:27 | Link #46 | ||
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And of course, getting stronger wouldn't have happened. That is why, I think the only important part of Kuma's apperance is the getting stronger part. Not only as a character, but also the help they can gather during the lonely days. Quote:
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2009-09-23, 19:53 | Link #47 |
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The strawhats fought to the point of complete exhaustion against one pacifista. After such a tiresome battle, there is no way they would have been able to emerge victorious against another one being accompanied by Sentoumaru to make matters even worse. The strawhats were clearly outclassed at the archipelago.
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2009-09-23, 20:06 | Link #48 |
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Gotta agree with Blackbeard D. Kuma on that matter. Plus, remember that the Pacifistas weren't a handful for just the Straw-Hats, but the other supernovas, as well. Simply put, Luffy and co. would've been screwed over big-time if not for Kuma. The Sabaody arc was meant to show just how far the Straw-Hats have to go before they can properly compete with the big boys.......
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2009-09-23, 20:15 | Link #49 |
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Regarding Pacifistas, after solving how to beat one, they could have done it easier for the remaining ones. So, I am not really too worried about Kuma clones. The only major problem they would have would be Sentoumaru, and considering his intelligence, he should have been also defeated in a surprising way. A complete exhaustion would not happen, as long as they have the willpower to fight. And, if they had believed they would have won, that would have happened. And that time would signal the complete exhaustion...
If Zoro can survive that Kuma energy ball, then anything is possible. |
2009-09-23, 20:17 | Link #50 | |
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2009-09-23, 20:22 | Link #51 |
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That energy ball was quite real, considering the reaction Zoro had after touching a small piece. And I doubt Kuma is someone, who would hold back, especially after seeing such an admirable courageous act from Zoro (that is after ignoring what he had done earlier that would have killed everyone there). I think it would be okay to assume that Kuma had believed in Zoro's strength. And it was Zoro's strength that allowed him to survive.
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2009-09-23, 20:57 | Link #52 |
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i think iva's opponents isn't the real kuma...
Iwankof: Bartholomew kuma…!! HA..HA… I get that you wanna keep you title as a SHICHIBUKAI.. But damn, dont be shooting MAJIREZA (real laser) at someone you know the real kuma isn't using laser right. it was a pascifistha |
2009-09-23, 20:57 | Link #53 | |
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Also, having willpower alone is not enough to prevail in battle. One must also have the sufficient strength needed to overcome their adversaries, otherwise they will lose in the end. The strawhats suffered an utter defeat because of their inadequate strength at the archipelago. Like marvelB said, showing their inadequacy in comparison to the elites was the main message of the sabaody archipelago arc.
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2009-09-23, 21:52 | Link #54 | |
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And I like how Oda makes it so that in a lot of fights even with willpower they still lose, sometimes. Cause Luffy's will has to be loads stronger then most of the guys he's gotten his ass handed to him by.
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2009-09-24, 02:01 | Link #56 | |
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2009-09-24, 02:52 | Link #58 |
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After saving Strawhats (which is confirmed by this chapter), defeating a pacifista and being called an acquaintance by a revo commander.....still no marine can identify Kuma as an enemy? Someone call Vegapunk to turn his switch off or pull out his batteries.
Hell they were suspicious of Kuma after tenryubito event and if I were Kizaru I'd beam him to death by now.I know WG need everything to hold their ground but an enemy spy in their ranks will only cause trouble. |
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