Code Geass Drama CD discussion

[darthfury78]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

You're not displaying imagination. You're whining like a pissant, and giving stupid reasons for calling R2 off as 'non-canon' that are totally laughable and utterly false, and show that you're clearly grasping at straws.

And do you know what other scenarios Taniguchi had for R2? Jeremiah's sister being Zero or Lelouch taking people aboard an airship for no reason? Yeah. No.

Those were just early ideas. It may or may not have been used once the original plans for R2 was finalized before it went into production for the latenight audience.

[FoxxFireArt]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

You're not displaying imagination. You're whining like a pissant, and giving stupid reasons for calling R2 off as 'non-canon' that are totally laughable and utterly false, and show that you're clearly grasping at straws.

And do you know what other scenarios Taniguchi had for R2? Jeremiah's sister being Zero or Lelouch taking people aboard an airship for no reason? Yeah. No.

I agree. Those arguments to discount the R2 series seems like the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and humming to yourself.

What puts an end to it all is that Taniguchi signed off on this ending. I haven't seen anything posted anywhere that says he denounces that finale. He has talked about aspects of the story that never got developed, but that often happens in shows.

[darthfury78]

Originally Posted by FoxxFireArt

I agree. Those arguments to discount the R2 series seems like the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and humming to yourself.

What puts an end to it all is that Taniguchi signed off on this ending. I haven't seen anything posted anywhere that says he denounces that finale. He has talked about aspects of the story that never got developed, but that often happens in shows.

I hope that Taniguchi gets to do another Code Geass project. Sunrise could have him make a movie or another series. Although, he might use that opportunity to do a Mai Hime type remake of R2. On the other hand, Taniguchi could do a novel on what his version of R2 was to have been. Perhaps a novel would have been the best option for Code Geass because it could satisfy our respected interest than the anime. Anything from the production staff on Code Geass as a novel.

[Dream_Traveller]

No, because Taniguchi has signed off, and although that interview in the Roman Album showed that he had a hard time making R2 at the start, key words, he never expressed that the current scenario in R2 was one he didn't desire. Learn your facts before misleading people.

[FoxxFireArt]

Originally Posted by darthfury78

I hope that Taniguchi gets to do another Code Geass project. Sunrise could have him make a movie or another series. Although, he might use that opportunity to do a Mai Hime type remake of R2. On the other hand, Taniguchi could do a novel on what his version of R2 was to have been. Perhaps a novel would have been the best option for Code Geass because it could satisfy our respected interest than the anime. Anything from the production staff on Code Geass as a novel.

Any other full Code Geass project would be an abomination. They couldn't do it without serious drama. It would have to take the peace that Lelouch gave his life for and shatter it. Thus making his sacrifice meaningless. It would never be interesting if the world and the peace wasn't in mortal danger.
Taniguchi could make a different kind of project, but like with S-Cryed. It would be something completely different.

I wasn't incredibly happy with the ending myself, but I still see this ending as canon.

There are already light novels, but everyone knows that the novels aren't canon. If they were that would be a real shot in the arm for Kallen fans. Kallen's light novel has a scene where Kallen actually met Lelouch when they were children. In the scene Kallen finds a peach. A young Lelouch shows up and Kallen thinks the peach is his. She hands it over. He's about ready to leave for school when he looks back and gives it to her, without saying anything, before running to catch his bus.
That is a very adorable moment, and rather in character. It does have a real Love Hina kind of vibe though. I haven't see details of all the novels, but I have been told that some of them contradict later events of the anime.
I haven't seen a full synopsis of the Kallen light novel. I don't know if there is anything in it that contradicts events of the anime, but we can't just pick and choose which novel is canon and which aren't. Not without some official source that confirms it.

[Dream_Traveller]

Also, re-read. Again, you overplay Milly's importance. "Ally in Lelouch's cause"? Thanks to Charles, she didn't know what the hell Lelouch was originally, and no doubt saw him as an evil bastard. Again, you lose. Even if her memories weren't rewritten, I doubt she'd help someone who'd end up killing families.

Think. What would be different in the story if Milly was gone? Okay, so there'd either be no Turn 12 (oh, sorry, Stage 37) or there'd be someone else hosting the event, and chasing Arthur would have never have happened. That's it. Any old schmuck could have replaced her, or taken Lelouch in, or whatever. She changed absolutely nothing in the story. Even Rivalz has more importance than her, because if he didn't get distracted on his bike and cause Kallen and Nagata to swerve off-road, Code Geass would have never happened. Geass owes itself starting to a character who served as little more than mostly comic relief up until the final episodes of R2. Milly? She did utterly nothing notable except initiate that chase.

[FoxxFireArt]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

Also, re-read. Again, you overplay Milly's importance. "Ally in Lelouch's cause"? Thanks to Charles, she didn't know what the hell Lelouch was originally, and no doubt saw him as an evil bastard. Again, you lose. Even if her memories weren't rewritten, I doubt she'd help someone who'd end up killing families.

Think. What would be different in the story if Milly was gone? Okay, so there'd either be no Turn 12 (oh, sorry, Stage 37) or there'd be someone else hosting the event, and chasing Arthur would have never have happened. That's it. Any old schmuck could have replaced her, or taken Lelouch in, or whatever. She changed absolutely nothing in the story. Even Rivalz has more importance than her, because if he didn't get distracted on his bike and cause Kallen and Nagata to swerve off-road, Code Geass would have never happened. Geass owes itself starting to a character who served as little more than mostly comic relief up until the final episodes of R2. Milly? She did utterly nothing notable except initiate that chase.

While I agree this person overplays Milly's importance. You seem to under play it. Yes, Milly never really influenced much of anything to the story,
Milly was a sort of ally to Lelouch in the first season, but she was never an ally to his cause. She never knew what his real cause was. She was just the girl who knew he was a prince.
After the second season her memories of Lelouch as a prince were erased, and she had no more memories of Nunnally. There is nothing to show that Jeremiah used his Geass Canceler on anyone to return her memories. The same for Rivalz memories.

I doubt she still thought Lelouch was truly evil. She strikes me as the type that would want to believe in Lelouch and morned him after his death.

[Jeffry2009]

Excuse me, can we talk in the episode discussion, not here? this is Drama CD discussion where it discuss the stories about the drama inside the CDs.

[Sprite_Coke]

Well, SE5 is out and from some reviews here and there, I've heard that it's horrible.
Bad music, but sad and sentimental lyrics.
I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but getting on it right now.
More to be reflected soon.

[roon]

おでん屋　ナナちゃん was much better than I expected.

Suzaku and Kallen's rambling (particularly Suzaku's) were absolutely hilarious.

EDIT:
It sounds like hitomi provided background vocals for Nunnally's track?

[bladeofdarkness]

what does the drama part contain (whats the story)

[incorrupts]

Provided from my mate in LJ kitsune::
{not all of it, the first part}

Code Geass R2 Sound Episode #5 Summary // first part

Spoiler for summary first part:

[This one takes place while CC is still a moeblob, but Kallen is also there so don't be too confused if it doesn't exactly follow the anime timeline. Remember, these are crack dramas]

CC is apologizing for being a bother to her master again, while Lelouch sounds fed up and orders her not to hide like that. CC begs him not to hurt her {ah teh subtext that is not buttsex for once}

He's interrupted by Charles' call on his private phone, who greets Lelouch as "my sweet son" {o_O}
Both sound very serious, but Charuru manages to throw in a line about Lelouch making him grandfather {with CC??}
Charuru claims to have some interesting information for Leluuuuuuushu: he knows a way to turn CC back to her old self!
{the exaggeration in their voices when they stretch and emphasize the names of the other is to be understood as auto-derision I think}

Scene switch:
Zero announces out of the blue they will now be hunting the mushroom!
The Black Knights are wondering what's wrong with Zero, if he ate sth bad or hit his head etc.
Rolo {yandere mode} geasses everyone and beats them up while they're frozen for saying bad things about his NIII-SAAAN!

Zero explains he needs their help to reset the current "meido-zoku, moe-moe-shoujo" CC to her old self (the black knights are super confused and don't get a thing). The emperor told him the only way for CC to become normal again is to use a specific mushroom, the "mushroom of C", from the World of C. However the emperor had warned him that attempting to find said mushroom is a very dangerous enterprise.
But Zero already has a plan: he gathered the potential mushrooms that all look different (green ones, purple ones, striped ones ... ), and now the Knights' mission is to cook them and present the dishes to CC!! Diethard is worried about some of them being poisonous but Zero replies he's mistaken and the emperor promised there was no poison.

Kallen thinks its an interesting idea, and she and Diethard think of it like a TV program {cooking show?} in which the candidates present their dishes to CC. Diethard as the TV professional wants to imagine a shorter, more catchy title for the show but Rolo turns up to geasses and smacks him again.

As the "show" begins, Kallen asks CC to introduce herself (she does so presenting herself as the maid and "moe-moe-shoujo" and overall makes a very submissive and weak impression). Kallen, amused by CC's change, abuses of the situation and intimidates CC who for once is not superior to her anymore but whines and is scarred of her {bad Kallen BAD D8 }

Toudou, heavily praised by Chiba, is the first to have a dish for her, something they used to eat before. CC however thinks it looks rather grotesque, but encouraged by her master she digs in.
This has the magical effect of turning her into tsundere!CC (when Zero asks her how she feels, she gets all excited and replies this doesn't mean she has any feelings for him)

The second dish is a gratin made by Chiba (who mutters dere-dere things about Toudou nobody understands), which she forcefully shoves into CC's mouth, but it's not the mushroom of C either, instead it just resets her to the previous state, aka moeblob (and additionally burned her mouth so she'll talk a bit funny for the rest of the track)

Diethard tries next, with a britannian dish inspired from a gourmet show. CC is reluctant at first and asks Zero if she must eat that too. Zero takes pity on her and doesn't want to force her but Diethard gets offended so Zero asks CC to eat it after all {and because he must maintain peace in his harem, it's best to avoid internal fights *nod nod*}
After tasting it CC thinks it delicious and happily munches, but oh shock it does not have the effect everyone hoped for but transforms into sth with drills as her hands {??? Rost in transration here. I'm hesitating whether this is a very subtle reference to TGTL or sth else my fail-Japanese skills couldn't identify}
Zero yells at Diethard to explain himself, but he's barely showing any concern, so CC gets bananas and crushes him.

Lastly we have Kallen and her mushroom risotto and asks not to mind the purpleness of it. CC says she can't eat like this (this is related to what she has become due to Diethard's mushroom). Kallen te-hee's and simply asks her to open her mouth and feeds her. CC's eyes start to itch and when Zero wants to have a look HE EFFING GETS STRUCK BY THE MIGHTY CC BEAMU!! {not even making that up. this drama is so sick, poor poor CC!}
Kallen wants to use her as a weapon but Zero is in despair, so they decide to feed all the remaining mushrooms to CC, hoping the right one will be in the loot. One turns CC into a giant, "bigger than the Zangetsu" {Alice in Wonderland anyone?}, Diethard loses it for no specific reason, Kallen is impressed and Zero seems deeply troubled by his failure to save CC, while the latter blames herself for everything, says her goodbyes and attempts to run away.

Scene change, Suzaku reports to the emperor: a Chinese spy has observed a huge mysterious figure resembling a young girl emerging from the BK's HQ at Hourai Island. Suzaku is convinced it's a mistake but Charuru goes all "ZERO, YOU REALLY DID IT!!" and bursts into endless laughter, leaving a "ha?" completely confused Suzaku behind. The drama ends on CC fleeing from Zero and the others, still a giant.


Comments:
A lot of the lines are quotes from the main show I tried to keep as such for more lulz, e.g. Zero's "No, you're wrong!" and Charuru's "Zero, her really did it!". Gotta love the self-irony here.

[youngde]

Originally Posted by skyless

Provided from my mate in LJ kitsune::
{not all of it, the first part}

Code Geass R2 Sound Episode #5 Summary // first part

Spoiler for summary first part:

[This one takes place while CC is still a moeblob, but Kallen is also there so don't be too confused if it doesn't exactly follow the anime timeline. Remember, these are crack dramas]

CC is apologizing for being a bother to her master again, while Lelouch sounds fed up and orders her not to hide like that. CC begs him not to hurt her {ah teh subtext that is not buttsex for once}

He's interrupted by Charles' call on his private phone, who greets Lelouch as "my sweet son" {o_O}
Both sound very serious, but Charuru manages to throw in a line about Lelouch making him grandfather {with CC??}
Charuru claims to have some interesting information for Leluuuuuuushu: he knows a way to turn CC back to her old self!
{the exaggeration in their voices when they stretch and emphasize the names of the other is to be understood as auto-derision I think}

Scene switch:
Zero announces out of the blue they will now be hunting the mushroom!
The Black Knights are wondering what's wrong with Zero, if he ate sth bad or hit his head etc.
Rolo {yandere mode} geasses everyone and beats them up while they're frozen for saying bad things about his NIII-SAAAN!

Zero explains he needs their help to reset the current "meido-zoku, moe-moe-shoujo" CC to her old self (the black knights are super confused and don't get a thing). The emperor told him the only way for CC to become normal again is to use a specific mushroom, the "mushroom of C", from the World of C. However the emperor had warned him that attempting to find said mushroom is a very dangerous enterprise.
But Zero already has a plan: he gathered the potential mushrooms that all look different (green ones, purple ones, striped ones ... ), and now the Knights' mission is to cook them and present the dishes to CC!! Diethard is worried about some of them being poisonous but Zero replies he's mistaken and the emperor promised there was no poison.

Kallen thinks its an interesting idea, and she and Diethard think of it like a TV program {cooking show?} in which the candidates present their dishes to CC. Diethard as the TV professional wants to imagine a shorter, more catchy title for the show but Rolo turns up to geasses and smacks him again.

As the "show" begins, Kallen asks CC to introduce herself (she does so presenting herself as the maid and "moe-moe-shoujo" and overall makes a very submissive and weak impression). Kallen, amused by CC's change, abuses of the situation and intimidates CC who for once is not superior to her anymore but whines and is scarred of her {bad Kallen BAD D8 }

Toudou, heavily praised by Chiba, is the first to have a dish for her, something they used to eat before. CC however thinks it looks rather grotesque, but encouraged by her master she digs in.
This has the magical effect of turning her into tsundere!CC (when Zero asks her how she feels, she gets all excited and replies this doesn't mean she has any feelings for him)

The second dish is a gratin made by Chiba (who mutters dere-dere things about Toudou nobody understands), which she forcefully shoves into CC's mouth, but it's not the mushroom of C either, instead it just resets her to the previous state, aka moeblob (and additionally burned her mouth so she'll talk a bit funny for the rest of the track)

Diethard tries next, with a britannian dish inspired from a gourmet show. CC is reluctant at first and asks Zero if she must eat that too. Zero takes pity on her and doesn't want to force her but Diethard gets offended so Zero asks CC to eat it after all {and because he must maintain peace in his harem, it's best to avoid internal fights *nod nod*}
After tasting it CC thinks it delicious and happily munches, but oh shock it does not have the effect everyone hoped for but transforms into sth with drills as her hands {??? Rost in transration here. I'm hesitating whether this is a very subtle reference to TGTL or sth else my fail-Japanese skills couldn't identify}
Zero yells at Diethard to explain himself, but he's barely showing any concern, so CC gets bananas and crushes him.

Lastly we have Kallen and her mushroom risotto and asks not to mind the purpleness of it. CC says she can't eat like this (this is related to what she has become due to Diethard's mushroom). Kallen te-hee's and simply asks her to open her mouth and feeds her. CC's eyes start to itch and when Zero wants to have a look HE EFFING GETS STRUCK BY THE MIGHTY CC BEAMU!! {not even making that up. this drama is so sick, poor poor CC!}
Kallen wants to use her as a weapon but Zero is in despair, so they decide to feed all the remaining mushrooms to CC, hoping the right one will be in the loot. One turns CC into a giant, "bigger than the Zangetsu" {Alice in Wonderland anyone?}, Diethard loses it for no specific reason, Kallen is impressed and Zero seems deeply troubled by his failure to save CC, while the latter blames herself for everything, says her goodbyes and attempts to run away.

Scene change, Suzaku reports to the emperor: a Chinese spy has observed a huge mysterious figure resembling a young girl emerging from the BK's HQ at Hourai Island. Suzaku is convinced it's a mistake but Charuru goes all "ZERO, YOU REALLY DID IT!!" and bursts into endless laughter, leaving a "ha?" completely confused Suzaku behind. The drama ends on CC fleeing from Zero and the others, still a giant.


Comments:
A lot of the lines are quotes from the main show I tried to keep as such for more lulz, e.g. Zero's "No, you're wrong!" and Charuru's "Zero, her really did it!". Gotta love the self-irony here.

All I gotta say is "WTF."

(I always wanted to see Kallen actually interacting w/ ChiChi. Although, this makes her sound a little meaner than I think she would have been if this were real.)

[808080[8]]

Tiara No Kimochi touching my heart, Nazuka Kaori's voice really smooth >_<

MOE MOE shoujo C.C-tan so cute
Nunnally rules in Odenya no Nana-chan

Spoiler for SoundEp Odenya no Nana-chan:

--Nunnally really scary >_< only she can win over Lelouch
--Tamaki said that still Lucky that Lelouch wont born as Prince of Great Empire who Mother was murdered LOL

[Pink-chan]

SE6 information from amazon
Link



Sorry folks, no Suzaku character song. The character song is a duo by Xingke and Gino.

Originally Posted by Amazon site

＜収録内容＞
■「るるる　合コン　ラプソディー」
え～っと、ルルーシュ、ロロ、ジノ、ジェレミア、スザク、ロイド、星刻、シュナイゼルたちが～ 、
カラオケボックスで～、合コンを～、しよ～と～、思ってたら～・・・・・・。
・・・阿鼻叫喚、めくるめく時間を堪能していただくしかありません・・・。
■「皇神楽耶　鬼に　会う」
8年前・・・。皇家のお姫様、神楽耶の幼少時の感動的エピソード。スザクやルルーシュとの交流、
・・・そして今日の“ゼロ”にもつながる貴重なお話です。
■「単車マン　ジェレミア　全力大作戦」
ジェレミア・・・
「機械の身体に忠義の心。悪い奴らは許さない。単車マン、ジェレミア、全力戦闘モード、ここに 完成！」
ルルーシュ・・・「行け、ジェレミア！」
正義の特命少年警視ルルーシュと、邪悪帝国ブリタニア皇帝シャルル、狡猾参謀シュナイゼル、
死神皇女コーネリアらが対決するエピソード。ジェレミアの活躍でブリタニアを倒すことができる のかっ!!
本当にいいのかっ！ このCDシリーズが終わってもっ!!
■キャラクターソング「Reason」星刻&ジノ [緑川光＆保志総一朗] (Xingke+Gino)
　作詞・作曲・編曲　酒井ミキオ

＜ドラマ出演＞
福山潤（ルルーシュ）、水島大宙（ロロ）、保志総一朗（ジノ）、成田剣（ジェレミア）、櫻井孝 宏（スザク）
白鳥哲（ロイド）、緑川光（黎星刻）、井上倫宏（シュナイゼル）、井上喜久子（セシル）、折笠富美子（シャ ーリー）
若本規夫（ブリタニア皇帝）、皆川純子（コーネリア）、中田譲治（ディートハルト）、かないみか（皇神楽耶 ）
小清水亜美（紅月カレン）、桐原泰三（辻親八）　他

[youngde]

Originally Posted by Pink-chan

SE6 information from amazon
Link

Sorry folks, no Suzaku character song. The character song is a duo by Xingke and Gino.

Xingke and Gino!?! Seriously!!!

[SonOfHeaven]

I wonder what the song will be about since its a duo between the both of them.

[Lie]

It'll probably be on loyalty since that's the only trait they really share and both were questioned on it. I'd imagine it will be something like Xing-ke -> China/Tian-zi and Gino -> Britannia/Suzaku.

[Pink-chan]

Originally Posted by youngde

Xingke and Gino!?! Seriously!!!

Originally Posted by Amazon site

■キャラクターソング「Reason」星刻&ジノ [緑川光＆保志総一朗] (Xingke+Gino)
　作詞・作曲・編曲　酒井ミキオ

Yes, it's Xingke and Gino.

[FoxxFireArt]

Originally Posted by Pink-chan

Yes, it's Xingke and Gino.

That seems like an utter waste for the last Code Geass Audio Drama. You'd think for the finale you'd want someone major. Not some lame throw away character like Gino.
Though if Suzaku's VA isn't very good at singing I can understand, but get someone better.