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Scarletknive · 2012-01-24, 10:54

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Originally Posted by bhl88

I think you have to finish the entire story mode and the final before that...

"The Final before that"?

Nanya01 · 2012-01-24, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Scarletknive

"The Final before that"?

You have to beat U-D at every chance.

Do all your story modes that can have symbols on them have symbols?

If you have all the symbols, you can unlock Sequence X as soon as you finish the final sequence.

Scarletknive · 2012-01-24, 11:11

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Originally Posted by Nanya01

You have to beat U-D at every chance.

Do all your story modes that can have symbols on them have symbols?

If you have all the symbols, you can unlock Sequence X as soon as you finish the final sequence.

That means i have to fight Blanc in despair(U-D,VA joke), at any costs right?(Regardless of that damn super armor effect...)

Nanya01 · 2012-01-24, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Scarletknive

That means i have to fight Blanc in despair(U-D,VA joke), at any costs right?(Regardless of that damn super armor effect...)

You have to beat U-D in all stages where she appears before the final sequence.

Scarletknive · 2012-01-24, 11:56

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Originally Posted by Nanya01

You have to beat U-D in all stages where she appears before the final sequence.

Oh boy........

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Spoiler for game spoilers:

Spoiler for From Lockon Stratos(Neil):

Sorry, i have to say it.

00-Raiser · 2012-01-24, 18:05

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Originally Posted by Scarletknive

Oh boy........

It's doable. You just need to use the right tricks with the various characters and wait for a time out.

Practise enough and you'll be able to mop the floor with her in no time.

itanshi1 · 2012-01-24, 18:29

On "Spoiler for game spoilers:"

What the crap!? Ah that's a bit more epic than I expected, well done. I still am placing my bets on the relation to the Nakajimas.

Anyone write fanfiction on these two and get thrown by the image? Hehe

00-Raiser · 2012-01-24, 18:34

Guess you haven't been following the thread

Spoiler:

Seriously the whole time travelling thing was included solely for the purpose of including Vivio, Einhart, Thoma, and Lily. Absolutely nothing would change in the rest of the story if the sisters were just from an unadministrated world in present time.

Sunder the Gold · 2012-01-24, 18:38

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Seriously the whole time travelling thing was included solely for the purpose of including Vivio, Einhart, Thoma, and Lily. Absolutely nothing would change in the rest of the story if the sisters were just from an unadministrated world in present time.

Or if the future visitors never showed up, if it needs be said.

itanshi1 · 2012-01-24, 18:49

I've been following it, just never had that part come up :/ odd

00-Raiser · 2012-01-24, 19:26

There's actually a lot of pointless things in the story mode.

Precia and Linith? Completely pointless. Yeah, it was nice to see some development on their end, but that's invalidated considering that it's not actually them, just Dark Pieces. Them being around had nothing to do with the plot involving U-D and the Florian sisters.

It would hurt things if it was actually an anime/manga, but since it's a game it's fine to give us more things to play but narratively speaking it served no purpose.

rxrx · 2012-01-24, 19:58

Talking about serving no purpose, not only the future visitors and the Florian sisters, Nanoha and crew have no meaning in the story as well as the whole thing can be resolved by the materials alone. Without the materials, Yuri will just be blasted into oblivion just like the poor defense system in A's and the story will end in tragedy.

I think that is also one of the reason why Diarche dislike Hayate as well.

Nanya01 · 2012-01-24, 20:04

Wasn't Kyrie needed to get Yuri to activate fully?

Plus, the God Armor of U-D needed to be broken first, which isn't something that the Materials did.

Sunder the Gold · 2012-01-24, 20:10

Considering that Yuri and the Materials are manifesting on Earth, along with another wave of Dark Pieces, there's just no way that Nanoha and friends can't be involved.

And having Nanoha and company get involved means that the Materials can settle things up with their originals, which furthers everyone's character development nicely. Moreso the Materials themselves, of course.

rxrx · 2012-01-24, 20:17

There you have it. The future gang and Fate's family also receive character development as well in the short time they appear. It hammers even strongly on the relationship of Fate's family as Precia's regret was still so strong and Linith's regret on not able to snap Precia out of it and treat Fate as a daughter is shown as well.

When you think of it, the game is called Lyrical Nanoha but she has the least involvement in the story. Fate gets to deal with her family issue and Hayate gets to deal with the cats and Diarche but Nanoha is just there to torture poor Chrono.

Anyway, I do not know why, but I think present Hayate might have a strong dislike for her future self though.

Justin_Brett · 2012-01-24, 20:55

I guess Levi and Stern aren't important enough to count.

Scarletknive · 2012-01-24, 20:59

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Originally Posted by itanshi1

On "Spoiler for game spoilers:"

What the crap!? Ah that's a bit more epic than I expected, well done. I still am placing my bets on the relation to the Nakajimas.

Anyone write fanfiction on these two and get thrown by the image? Hehe

You should know...i quote that from a forum member here...so credits goes to him...(Don't how to do quote a person...)
I am just adding a little sauce to it.

00-Raiser · 2012-01-24, 21:27

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Originally Posted by rxrx

There you have it. The future gang and Fate's family also receive character development as well in the short time they appear. It hammers even strongly on the relationship of Fate's family as Precia's regret was still so strong and Linith's regret on not able to snap Precia out of it and treat Fate as a daughter is shown as well.

Again, what impact did Fate getting more development have on the plot of U-D? Absolutely nothing. Nanoha and co being present does serve the purpose of, well, some one has to fight U-D. While the game only has them fight one at a time they're obviously meant to team up on U-D to weaken her.

Even the Liese twins have more of a reason. Leti has them investigate the incident with the Dark Pieces, and then they help train everyone for the fight against U-D. Their actions directly tie into the main storyline.

Linith, Precia, Vivio, Einhart, Thoma, and Lily also added nothing. Them being there has no impact on the U-D storyline, and the latter 4 just help out in the battle.

It's nice to see them, sure, and I liked how they interacted with the other characters but narratively speaking there's no point.

ZeroIchiNi · 2012-01-24, 22:04

Vivio, Einhart, Thoma, and Lily contributed next to nothing throughout the entire incident and they left nothing behind except for a small linger of "Who was that girl that can turn big?" impression on Nanoha.

*It'll be funny if she's thinking about Einhart instead of Vivio*

They didn't advance the main plot, nor did anything the A's cast would remember for Character growth.

The A's cast remembers the Dark Piece of Linith and Precia, making them a small step up in being important.

Justin_Brett · 2012-01-24, 22:16

Yeah, I thought they'd take a bit more advantage of the opportunity to flesh out their new leads a bit, but I guess that's just something they didn't feel like doing.

Maybe if the mangas get a game all to themselves, but I somehow doubt that'll happen.

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itanshi1 Writer, Jester, MtG nerd Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nanoha Used Car Dealership. RERISE!	On "Spoiler for game spoilers:" What the crap!? Ah that's a bit more epic than I expected, well done. I still am placing my bets on the relation to the Nakajimas. Anyone write fanfiction on these two and get thrown by the image? Hehe __________________ For those that belittle their favorite characters, complain about pairings, complain about oversexed images. Stop, thank you. Fear Anxiety Doubt is but a fad. The life of a fad depends entirely on the willingness to support it. Difficulty is a choice. Determination is a path. Your next great idea after your destination is the true goal.

2012-01-24, 18:34	Link #2128
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	Guess you haven't been following the thread Spoiler: The Florian sisters are robots called Gears. Unlike the cyborgs they are 100% machine. Of course they're magic and thus age like normal girls, though. Since they're from an unspecified time in the future who knows how much technology has advanced. Seriously the whole time travelling thing was included solely for the purpose of including Vivio, Einhart, Thoma, and Lily. Absolutely nothing would change in the rest of the story if the sisters were just from an unadministrated world in present time. __________________

2012-01-24, 18:49	Link #2130
itanshi1 Writer, Jester, MtG nerd Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nanoha Used Car Dealership. RERISE!	I've been following it, just never had that part come up :/ odd __________________ For those that belittle their favorite characters, complain about pairings, complain about oversexed images. Stop, thank you. Fear Anxiety Doubt is but a fad. The life of a fad depends entirely on the willingness to support it. Difficulty is a choice. Determination is a path. Your next great idea after your destination is the true goal.

2012-01-24, 19:26	Link #2131
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	There's actually a lot of pointless things in the story mode. Precia and Linith? Completely pointless. Yeah, it was nice to see some development on their end, but that's invalidated considering that it's not actually them, just Dark Pieces. Them being around had nothing to do with the plot involving U-D and the Florian sisters. It would hurt things if it was actually an anime/manga, but since it's a game it's fine to give us more things to play but narratively speaking it served no purpose. __________________

2012-01-24, 20:04	Link #2133
Nanya01 Left for TFF Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Frozen Hell of the North Age: 41	Wasn't Kyrie needed to get Yuri to activate fully? Plus, the God Armor of U-D needed to be broken first, which isn't something that the Materials did. __________________ My fics Due to certain things, I am not here, find me over on TFF.

2012-01-24, 19:58	Link #2132
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Talking about serving no purpose, not only the future visitors and the Florian sisters, Nanoha and crew have no meaning in the story as well as the whole thing can be resolved by the materials alone. Without the materials, Yuri will just be blasted into oblivion just like the poor defense system in A's and the story will end in tragedy. I think that is also one of the reason why Diarche dislike Hayate as well.

2012-01-24, 20:10	Link #2134
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Considering that Yuri and the Materials are manifesting on Earth, along with another wave of Dark Pieces, there's just no way that Nanoha and friends can't be involved. And having Nanoha and company get involved means that the Materials can settle things up with their originals, which furthers everyone's character development nicely. Moreso the Materials themselves, of course.

2012-01-24, 20:17	Link #2135
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	There you have it. The future gang and Fate's family also receive character development as well in the short time they appear. It hammers even strongly on the relationship of Fate's family as Precia's regret was still so strong and Linith's regret on not able to snap Precia out of it and treat Fate as a daughter is shown as well. When you think of it, the game is called Lyrical Nanoha but she has the least involvement in the story. Fate gets to deal with her family issue and Hayate gets to deal with the cats and Diarche but Nanoha is just there to torture poor Chrono. Anyway, I do not know why, but I think present Hayate might have a strong dislike for her future self though.

2012-01-24, 20:55	Link #2136
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	I guess Levi and Stern aren't important enough to count.

2012-01-24, 22:04	Link #2139
ZeroIchiNi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	Vivio, Einhart, Thoma, and Lily contributed next to nothing throughout the entire incident and they left nothing behind except for a small linger of "Who was that girl that can turn big?" impression on Nanoha. It'll be funny if she's thinking about Einhart instead of Vivio They didn't advance the main plot, nor did anything the A's cast would remember for Character growth. The A's cast remembers the Dark Piece of Linith and Precia, making them a small step up in being important.

2012-01-24, 22:16	Link #2140
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Yeah, I thought they'd take a bit more advantage of the opportunity to flesh out their new leads a bit, but I guess that's just something they didn't feel like doing. Maybe if the mangas get a game all to themselves, but I somehow doubt that'll happen.