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Perfect 10 | 33 | 27.97% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 36 | 30.51% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 20 | 16.95% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 9.32% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 8 | 6.78% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 1.69% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 1.69% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 6 | 5.08% | |
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2008-09-11, 15:48 | Link #221 | |
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2008-09-11, 15:51 | Link #222 |
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Sheryl's death flags are probably false. We were trolled with Ozma for a little bit, who is only a minor character. It makes sense that Kawamori would shove SHERYL DEATHDEATHDEATH down our throats only "lolz gotcha" at the end, leaving us all to headdesk over our previous fretting.
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2008-09-11, 15:56 | Link #223 |
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And I think the way Kawamori is using it is very effective ^^. Well i think i have my share of putting more wood on the fire.... and i'm gonna wait for now and see how it burns....... I mean see the rest of the episodes .
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2008-09-11, 16:15 | Link #224 | |
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Spoiler for klan : " is is your true love " ?:
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2008-09-11, 16:16 | Link #225 | ||
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The bottom line is nothing is resolved, and nothing is going to be resolved for 14 more days. Anyone who thinks differently have more than 50% chance of being wrong since there are a combination of possible endings. So in the meantime, enjoy the ride and have fun with the fire fights. If I get bored I'll toss in a few grenades here and there for Sheryl-sama's glory. Three Cheers to the continuation and escalation of MacrossF shipper war. Hmm... where's Takky when you need him? |
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2008-09-11, 16:20 | Link #226 |
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You guys are putting too much value on whether Alto loves Ranka or not
this might be surprising to you, but you can love more than one person and the feeling itself can fluctuate example: Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, Ichigo 100, Kimikiss, heck, even the original Macross |
2008-09-11, 16:43 | Link #228 |
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who EVER said that he was going back with Ranka? He will stay with Sheryl till the very end. this episode doesn't have anything about Alto and Ranka getting together. this episode is just taking away any doubts that he had feelings for Ranka, something that the sharyl's fan keep trying to deny even though they got their pairing.
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2008-09-11, 16:49 | Link #231 |
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It's a pity Seifall only joined last month, it would've been interesting to see her opinions near the end for stuff like KGNE and True Tears.... shows where the main guy had feelings for both, shows where the winning girl looked screwed near the end. Things I've been saying will happen in Frontier for weeks now....
So even though I raged hard after watching the episode.... as soon as I got the translation of the scenes from #macrossuki I calmed down and laughed at myself. In wrestling terms I went from being a smark to a mark for 5 minutes. |
2008-09-11, 16:52 | Link #232 |
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now Michael's backstory ep makes more sense to me- one of main things there was about his sister- killing someone you have feelings for (accidentaly or not, it was not answered). i thought that they might put someone in that kind of situation again, - otherwise why bother telling about it- and it seems like it's happening.
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2008-09-11, 16:52 | Link #233 |
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I think you're mistaken. Most of us Sheryl fans havent ever denied that he's had feelings for both girls. The Question has always been Who he had deeper feelings for? Its clear he cares abt both girls. I havent seen the episode but from the spoilers, the only thing thats been confirmed is that he had some feelings for ranka, just like ep 22 confirmed that he had some feelings for sheryl. The real Question is what Klan asks alto. Which is your TRUE LOVE? |
2008-09-11, 16:55 | Link #234 | ||
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2008-09-11, 16:56 | Link #235 | |
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There fixed it for 'ya ^^ ---- hmmmmm..... both girls dying. ^^. Ranka dying by Alto's hands, and Sheryl dying in Alto's hands........~~~~
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2008-09-11, 16:56 | Link #236 |
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about the "woh in fact alto loves ranka thing"...
i think this guy doesn't know what he wants at all. Do you think he would answer if some character asked him "Do you love Sheryl Nome" ? It's like Ozma said in the previous episode, he has to choose his damn own path. He's kind , want to help others, make them happy, but when there's questions about himself he's totally clueless. I know that for some people it's easier to get concerned by other people 's feelings or problems than theirs, is it this kind of character the scenarist want to describe? this character has to learn how to live correctly for himself and his dreams, or he'll just make the girl cry. i think it's the only way for him to learn real love too. >sekidousai i don't know what my reaction would be if the director had the balls to do that. if it's well done, maybe it 'll be great ... mixed fellings with fear and excitment... wouhou, this series excite me a lot. Will the macross team make a great conclusion for the plot and a logical ending for the triangle?
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2008-09-11, 17:03 | Link #238 | |
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So what does "love" mean to him? Our Alto-hime is in quite the dillema.
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2008-09-11, 17:05 | Link #239 | |
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2008-09-11, 17:10 | Link #240 | |
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I could agree if klan didn't say sore ga omae no koi .
But she said it so it's more than just protecting someone here. She joined because of Michel she loved him, they talked about who alto wanted to protect, who was the love he was fighting for, like her with Michel. He said he joined SMS for Ranka and said : Alto:"And... I met her.I choose to join SMS to protect her. Fighting, protecting and forever after that..." ( What a declaration ) But I think all people who supported sheryl until now need the aishiteru 's word from Alto's mouth to alto, which I understand perfectly Quote:
Spoiler for Alto:
Alto thinks about Ranka Spoiler for alto:
But he said it as if Ranka was the one who changed his life. Thanks to her, he found his purpose( back then he wanted to escape kabuki and wanted to fly so floawed along with flying), but when he met Ranka he fighted for someone, he wanted to protect her which often ended as RANKAAAAAAAAAAA when he couldn't. Spoiler for Alto:
So he did pretend he wasn't aware of Ranka's feelings for him, or he did pretend he wasn't feeling anything for her . The next episode will clear it. you talk about sheryl : Sheryl was still at the top of her game, and didn't need his protection that's what I said countless time here, thanks ! she is the one who teased him at the beginning so he couldn't being aware of her feelings. But he said " then, I met her ...." . He met Ranka and wanted to protect her since the beginning, OK. But he said she was the one he wanted to protect. He could have talk about Sheryl who was in danger in episode 13, in episode 14, ... He could have said he wants to protect sheryl too since she is a part of Frontier people but he didn't even think about her ? He didn't even spell her name... Of course she is not in danger like Ranka who has a connexion with the vajra but since episode 18 he stays with her, he conforts her, he even hugged her ( the kiss didn't exist) , people even said that's why he loves her because he didn't make one of those things with Ranka but he said it himself : Spoiler for Declaration:
Now , it's a big declaration here. He wasn't acting like a brother( many people thought it), around Ranka because had such feelings towards her but he " pretended he didn't notice " . I really thought he was dense but now we have the reason why. People talked me here about how Alto and Sheryl relationship was stronger than Ranka. Spoiler for Alto's declaration:
I said this is the " true beginning" looks like i was right. |
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