Mobile Suit Gundam AGE - Episode 13 Discussion

[pumpkins]

Originally Posted by kiak666

It reminds me more of the Gadessa than anything.

yup, but just looking at the form of the bazooka magnified a few times, it reminds me of the GN-XIII's and the one that came with the HG astraea type-f

Originally Posted by Realist_Classic

We got a little bit more info as to the UE's identity. Referring to people as the Earthrace, seems to suggest that they could be an offshoot of humanity that dwelled in space over time. Where are they really from? We haven't heard anything about the moon just yet...

i'm not completely sure (can't remb every episode) but was Earth mentioned previously? it seems like everyone has been living in colonies so far.

[brightman]

Originally Posted by pumpkins

i'm not completely sure (can't remb every episode) but was Earth mentioned previously? it seems like everyone has been living in colonies so far.

All we know is that it exists, and so does the moon. We see them in Flit's computer in Ep 1.

[Realist_Classic]

Originally Posted by casval cehack

Probably the Earth/Moon front is not yet important in the scope of Flit's chapter, though curiously the humans (i.e Diva's crew) noted that Minsry is like the "old Earth" and now these UE refers to them as the weak "Earthrace". The UE's alignment could be the big reveal ("We are the Jovian Successors!").

UE might not seem like aliens to us, but judging by Yark Dole's disdain for the "Earthrace", they like to make their own distinction. We also shouldn't forget that the Federation is aware of who they are but are unwilling to confront them directly for whatever reason. So there must be some kind of tacit understanding between the two leaderships not to go into full open conflict.

My bet is that the UE are descendants of the waves of refugees who escaped the last great conflicts on Earth or were exiled. Having been forced into space, they were a few generations ahead of their gravity-bound brethren in adapting to space life. They discovered and harnessed X-Rounder capabilities which would gave them a technological edge. Their progress makes them contemptuous of those from the Earth, the source of all evil and foolishness.

...it makes you think that the UE has some kind of a X-rounder caste system, favoring the younglings.

and

Originally Posted by Arabesque

Alternatively, these kids could be selectively breed and (or) modified soldiers by the UE organization (afterall, what's better than a home grown super soldier?). By using so young they make sure that they start to accumulate experience of piloting MS and drill into their tiny heads where their loyalties go.

Hold on to these thoughts!

Originally Posted by pumpkins

I'm not completely sure (can't remb every episode) but was Earth mentioned previously? it seems like everyone has been living in colonies so far.

Earth was only mentioned during the crew's visit to Minsry, which supposedly is most Earth-like of all the colonies. Other than what we see in the OP sequence, we've never seen it.

[Znozzy]

epic episode. 10/10, finally we get a awesome space battle, nice animation and nice choreography.

Has anyone given the thought that children might be the only X-Rounders? like a new evolution of humans similar to newtypes?
With Flit/Yurin/Bluehaired boy who reminds me of young Link/Decil?
and the UE doing something like the Freeden's crew from Gundam X did, with evil intentions?

Havent seen the subbed one yet, someone correct me if i missed something, i can understand japanese somewhat but i might've gotten something wrong.

Also who wants to bet Yurin's suit has funnels of some sort? it would be like adding icing to the cake

[brightman]

Originally Posted by Realist_Classic

Yark Dole is like the adult chaperone at a Friday evening high school dance. Maybe it's because children have better access to the X-region of their brains that gives them the edge over adults?

That's not Yark Dole, that's Geera Zoi...

No idea what the difference between the two is since they look the same and have the same VA, but the credits alternate between the two names.

The kid is "Arabel Zoi", who I guess is Geera's kid.

[Realist_Classic]

Originally Posted by Znozzy

Has anyone given the thought that children might be the only X-Rounders? like a new evolution of humans similar to newtypes?

That's what some of us are thinking as well. It's power for sure. Maybe AGE will ultimately be about how our characters use that power.

[Znozzy]

Originally Posted by Realist_Classic

My bet is that the UE are descendants of the waves of refugees who escaped the last great conflicts on Earth or were exiled. Having been forced into space, they were a few generations ahead of their gravity-bound brethren in adapting to space life. They discovered and harnessed X-Rounder capabilities which would gave them a technological edge. Their progress makes them contemptuous of those from the Earth, the source of all evil and foolishness.

if that turns out to be true, Flit's dad could've been one of those refugees, which would explain why Flit himself is a X-rounder

[kiak666]

Originally Posted by brightman

That's not Yark Dole, that's Geera Zoi...

No idea what the difference between the two is since they look the same and have the same VA, but the credits alternate between the two names.

The kid is "Arabel Zoi", who I guess is Geera's kid.

I see, how did you distinguish those two anyway?

[Realist_Classic]

Originally Posted by Znozzy

if that turns out to be true, Flit's dad could've been one of those refugees, which would explain why Flit himself is a X-rounder

That would be interesting...

We don't know whether a human is born with the ability. Right now, I'm thinking that X-Rounder ability evolves once a person spends a certain amount of time in space (like Newtypes). Not everyone could eventually evolve to have it, but since the UE's ancestors were forced into space earlier, they might have had a head start recognizing the phenomenon and harnessing it for their use.

[brightman]

Originally Posted by kiak666

I see, how did you distinguish those two anyway?

Like I said, the only way is through the credits. They are both voiced by Cho and are under that cloak, so maybe their faces are different, but we can't really tell from the episodes themselves.

EDIT -

Spoiler:

Arabel is definitely Geera Zoi's son.

Spoiler:

Geera Zoi

[casval cehack]

Originally Posted by brightman

That's not Yark Dole, that's Geera Zoi...

No idea what the difference between the two is since they look the same and have the same VA, but the credits alternate between the two names.

The kid is "Arabel Zoi", who I guess is Geera's kid.

Could be the same person. One with many cover names.

Originally Posted by Znozzy

if that turns out to be true, Flit's dad could've been one of those refugees, which would explain why Flit himself is a X-rounder

Possible, that would make Yurin's parents also members of this postulated group. Is this why the UE are attacking, hunting the ones who left the group?

[RES-01 Perses Gundam]

Am I the only one who's condescending of the idea of a "X-rounder"? It's like a critical plot device allowing Flit to become an ace pilot within an episode of its introduction. To me, I prefer Flit accumulating combat experience, while having his supernormal abilities act as an "ace" instead, much like Amuro Ray's.

And for a moment, I thought the Feddies came to help, instead of Madorna's mobile suit squadron..

So some here speak of a conspiracy within the Federation, perhaps allowing the UE freedom to thrive in space and in return, the Federation would continue to wield control over Earth and the Feddie-controlled space colonies? Perhaps now Yark Dole intends to break the "contract", citing the Diva's unilateral attack as one of the Federation's declaration of hostilities?

[brightman]

Originally Posted by casval cehack

Could be the same person. One with many cover names.

I doubt it... It would make sense if they actually mention the different "aliases" in the show, but not when the credits are the only place that differentiate them.

We see that the hood and cloak is a fashion trend amongst the UE people anyway, so these two dressing the same way is quite plausible.

[casval cehack]

Originally Posted by brightman

I doubt it... It would make sense if they actually mention the different "aliases" in the show, but not when the credits are the only place that reflects that.

We see that the hood and cloak is a fashion trend amongst the UE people anyway, so these two dressing the same way is quite plausible.

On a closer look, Geera Zoi do have a longer "goatee".
Yark Dole -> http://www.gundam-age.net/images/car...ara_etc02l.jpg
Geera Zoi -> http://www.gundam-age.net/images/car...ara_etc09l.jpg

I guess this would make the traditional masked character in this universe no longer unique. Yark Dole is still the suspicious one though, he doesn't even have a listed age.

[duotiga]

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

Am I the only one who's condescending of the idea of a "X-rounder"? It's like a critical plot device allowing Flit to become an ace pilot within an episode of its introduction. To me, I prefer Flit accumulating combat experience, while having his supernormal abilities act as an "ace" instead, much like Amuro Ray's.

And for a moment, I thought the Feddies came to help, instead of Madorna's mobile suit squadron..

guess they are trying to "remake 0079"?

thats the same thought i have also when the launcher hitting the engines of the Ambat

[casval cehack]

Originally Posted by duotiga

thats the same thought i have also when the launcher hitting the engines of the Ambat

I think they knocked-out one of the three detachable escort carriers of Fa Bose (two were seen in episode 12). Ambat is the big rocky station behind the combined UE carrier.

[duotiga]

Originally Posted by casval cehack

I think they knocked-out one of the three detachable escort carriers of Fa Bose (two were seen in episode 12). Ambat is the big rocky station behind the combined UE carrier.

oops...there goes my memory

[Kusa-San]

Yurin

Other than that, great episode all around.

[StrikeFreedomV2]

Excellent Episode this time, everything was done right imo. Also, DAMN Flit was a Badass this time O_O I was surprised to see the Spallow in such a big battle, but Flit used it perfectly. I am pumped up for next week

[kk2extreme]

Will Yurin pilot a MS or MA?